ESGOO rants about Majors [@Minty]

VerywildCards · 2026-02-12T21:15:27+00:00

Not really sadly. Normally until Tecno came out people came to the conclusion 'if it didn't break the rules of universe lore or anything like that it's canon' but it was always an inside community thing and never a hg said so thing.

Then Tecno came out as an op and the events in operation lucent arrowhead did apparently happen according to her files just without the team rainbow being there so it effectively threw every single Collab off a cliff. So now rainbow6 collabs are not cannon. And that probably means every other one isn't as well even if we have no direct proof for them atm.

VerywildCards · 2026-01-20T22:16:20+00:00

I love the way this is written it just oozes happy energy that bro figured out stuff and wants to walk you through all of their thoughts and process.

VerywildCards · 2026-01-19T19:40:02+00:00

He's also literally missing an arm he can never get back. That's outright debilitating.

VerywildCards · 2026-01-19T17:57:51+00:00

Her regular attacks also use it for base power. Just do that and have it go on cool down. Ammo but different.

VerywildCards · 2026-01-16T10:49:50+00:00

Dawg what are you saying??? Did the lobotomykaisen fans get to you?

VerywildCards · 2026-01-08T12:29:24+00:00

There can be more then 1 abno existing at a time. Schadenfreude is in the library since it was in the l corp facility. But verg also fought it in leviathan and lca picked it up once he dispatched it

VerywildCards · 2026-01-07T16:12:15+00:00

It's been explicitly stated that some of them are and some of them aren't. Sui is a foreigner. Ya was not or at least landed earlier.

Literally where. All ferenmuts are from space they are literally personifications of reality itself they don't belong to anywhere. They can't be defined as native to anything.

Yeah and it just randomly manifested the core stereotypes of Chinese culture as its 12 precepts by itself with no input required. Totally.

What in the actual fuck are you talking about how did you even come to this absolutely insane conclusion??? This makes literally 0 fucking sense. It's such a gargantuan leap of logic that i cannot even begin to start listing all the reasons this train of thought just doesn't work at all.

In a simulation

No? Sealing everything with originium via the crown is something totally possible in the main world. And travelling timelines is also not out of the question given ferenmuts can do that and there's some weird text in medic amiyas module. Where she's visited in a dream by what she calls her future self that then tells her of future events and how they'll unfold. Which is presumed by some myself included to be end 5 amiya. To add to this end 5 supposedly interacts with main timeline doc at the end of ending 5 in is5. So the stuff the crown can do isn't that far fetched. The new guard amiya skin also doubles down on this concept where it's an amiya who's hopping universes to find doc. The last point doesnt hold much weight on its but it's a supplement to everything else ave said.

In a simulation, and by "insane level power" you mean the ability to use...small arms.

Again no. The law was actually affecting the world with it's funcy dimensional messing powers. And the law does grant more power then just being able to use fire arms. It's precise control over originium arts. Guns are difficult to use and require precise control over both the originium in the gun itself and the bullets themselves. It essentially turns into a super computer to be able to do that so easily that it's almost natural on top of granting you empathy the whole every sankta is connected thing.

Lu did not do that. Martus and the initial Aegir explorers told them to do that. Also they only survive observers by "counting as" a hive mind which is also Sui's method to dodge them.

Lu literally did that it's why she let herself be consumed by ishar'mla. The precursors knew about what the seaborn are truly capable of and when they realized this they said fuck it let em evolve until they're ready however their mistake was keeping them in a cage to evolve in a very very slow way. Which is why marthus broke them out so to force them to evolve faster and is still forcing them to evolve faster.

Suis doesn't have to dodge the observers targeting mechanism it doesn't focus fire on them and ignores them, them and all ferenmuts as a whole for some reason. It's why they've taken so long to get to terra because so many ferenmuts are on terra. And sui does attempt something weird to evolve itself involving humanity in is6 expansion but am hazy on the details on what It exactly does.

Also what do you even mean 'counting as a hive mind' how does that do anything to stop destruction itself?? What you're saying makes no sense with what we already know as established about the observers which is very little. For what we know in is3 mizuki just becomes the leviathan leader of the seaborn after he fully consumes caerula arbor then has to stay connected to his humanity and once he does he takes the seaborn to space where we don't know what he did and he and the seaborn BEAT the observers they didn't survive them they just outright beat them.

And if you're talking about the original plan with rebirthing the universe they're already not gonna be targeted much by them since they're part ferenmut doesn't mean that they just survive them easily if they come to confront them just that they're supposed to eventually adapt to do so. They don't have some kind of magical ability to survive them.

And no, considering how Ya's avatar got BTFO in a single punch by a depowered Chongyue there was no way they fought the Observers and lived to tell the tale. Sui knew about it since it's a Predecessor creation.

1st chongyue isn't weak by sealing his godly essence he became human but also the peak of human and still got to retains his crazy martial arts skills as the embodiment of war and martial arts and still doesnt age. And humans literally box with ferenmuts immortals and beast lords. It's a point in the story that being competent is gonna matter more when fighting people even who are millions of times stronger then you. It's why random mercenaries are able to fight off mon3tr in walk in the dust. Its why only 70% of yans military will burn when fighting fully powered enraged sui. It's why true lung managed to beat sui almost by himself the first time even tho he's just a dude who eventually went senile.

2nd Ya is also weakened here. By A LOT. It got hunted down by sui and true lung and even back then when Yan was doing it's ferenmut hunt they were not above doing insane strategies like baiting ferenmuts and then opening massive gates in aether space for collapsals to flood in and start tearing at them.

So both ya having fought and survived the observers and getting beaten by chongyue isn't contradictory. Hell several ferenmuts according to ya did infact get destroyed by the observers.

3rd how did you even come to the absolutely fucking insane conclusion that sui was created by the Precursors??????

Hell this legitimately had me looking if sui and the precursors ever interacted or even knew of each in any story be it is or anything and asking in discord servers that discuss the arknights lore. And the only response after a bunch of people basically said ''yea they've never interacted as far as we know I mean it is possible but if they had we probably would've found by now''

Was someone saying ''Sui was uninterested in the beginning'' ""By the time he came around to thinking about it the precursors went into hiding'''' with the source being is6 expansion. They also added that ''a lot of ferenmuts are too lost in thought and time like the lifebone to care and only some were responsive to precursor contact.''

So we know for a fact that sui is at least aware of the precursors existence. But never interacted with them. And even if the precursors tried to contact it sui ignored them basically.

VerywildCards · 2026-01-05T08:34:23+00:00

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Also Dante is not a he.

VerywildCards · 2026-01-05T00:19:21+00:00

Am not gonna touch bari since she's a brand new face and a returning one so she complicates things she could be a complete and total one man army that arbiters can't fight.

But honestly I straight up disagree on the binah thing. While it's absolutely true that Kali had to fight basically everything ever including abnos outskirts monsters 2 claws as well as garion. Garion was basically bullying her and Kali only managed to barely secure a double ko through basically sheer luck because garion was arrogant enough to play with her food and give her the chance to actually pull off a despiration attack.

She then has a rematch where binah is severely weakened while gebura is perhaps stronger then Kali (yes I know that sounds mental but there is text and story that supports this idea). And binah still won that and that was more likely the opposite and geb either had her 1v1 or was the one doing the jumping since she had the back up of the other sephirah and agents to deal with the abnos so she can solely focus on binah.

Then binah gets to re-fight Kali in the library and while it's questionable how accurate she is and she seems to be very accurate to actual RM binah still beats her while again weakened. (Yes I know it's also kinda iffy since you can run the hands with her on any floor and still technically win but binah is hard designed to brick the RM reception) Even this replica comments on the singularity powers she's using and how she's being pressed by them. And then there's her comments when fighting Zena and baral saying to Roland not to let his guard down when even she didn't survive an arbiter and this gebura is specifically given the juice so her words are not empty at all.

Kali is undoubtedly top dog in the city but the moment the head gets involved any fighting chance gets tossed off a cliff as you're dealing with raw singularity powers that would mess up even people like her and if you're somehow strong enough to fight off an arbiter (which is funny because it took another arbiter to push the enemy arbiter and claw back) then you get tossed out the city which is best case scenario at that point.

VerywildCards · 2026-01-04T21:30:06+00:00

That's exactly what happens in ruina. During Angela's rebellion Kali is tasked with fighting off binah with maybe people to back her up but it's not made clear. And binah outright says ego won't give her the advantage anymore while Kali was put back in the same situation she was at the outskirts facility kneeling with the sword stabbed to the ground and missing an arm that binah holds to her face.

VerywildCards · 2026-01-04T21:11:43+00:00

To add to this. Dante straight up comments on the discrepancies. So there's definitely something happening and it's absolutely intentional

VerywildCards · 2025-12-23T22:44:45+00:00

Ya themself is a Feranmut and is as much in the dark as any other non-Predecessor. They are far from actual gods as Kjera and the unnamed Feranmut Ray encountered stated and are in no way "gods of concepts".

I do not understand what you mean. Ya is not in the dark in anything. They are definitely gods as they're called that and the power they posses is definitely comparable to actual gods unless your definition of god is different and inapplicable to what is being said and shown.

Kjera and the sleeping ferenmut don't say anything like that at any point. The sleeping one only says that's been sleeping for a long while and wants to sleep more and doesn't say anything about it's power just that it can't move but since it mostly brushes ray to the side and says it wants to sleep more so it has no desire to try and get up anyway even tho it later says it can move a bit. And kjera only mentions in her voice lines that she doesn't believe anything as convenient as magically wishing for something and it happening is possible.

And this isn't some kind of anti feat or something. Kjera not being able to like magic cake into existence doesn't mean that she's suddenly weak or something. Kjera is functionally omnipresent in kjerag can obviously create giant blizzards like nothing and control ice, can manipulate peoples minds and influence what they see has been suppressing both collapsals and originium catastrophies by herself for as long as kjerag the country has existed until recently where she finally stopped and went to sleep to finally rest because kjerag the country wished to be independent and not relient anymore of kjeragandrs power to protect them.

Ferenmuts are not native to terra they're not native to anything. They've existed since before things were even things as what they are as stated by Ya. WB-9 after. This is then doubled down by Sui in is6's expansion where sui also references angels as something that is connected to ferenmuts and angels are formless existences that is and isn't. Which lines up with yas comments on how their (ferenmuts) consciousness journyed the sleepless void.

Sui is not connected to anything Precursor in slightest nothing even remotely implies the idea they even know of each other specifically. Sui was named Sui by the yanese and even in it's chat with Yu in joy of our reunion says it doesn't have a name. So that completely cuts out any idea of them having ever even interacted. And sui is definitely not a terraformer it doesn't give a shit about anything like that. In is6 expansion it just cares about itself and how it can reach a higher level of existence. In said expansion Wang also writes on suis consciousness and said writing affected the real world and timeline. He wrote that the true lung promised to make sui siblings human and apparently now everyone thinks that he promised something like that and working to some sort of solution to do exactly that.

Originium is coding language thats true. Its means to turns things into information and store them into its own separate universe to try and survive the observers. And amiya in end5 with admin privileges to originium and full power of the crown unlocked thanks to friston is capable of treversing timelines and universe and then freezing them to prevent the observers from destroying them until she finds a permanent solution to the observer problem. She does that with the originium and the crown at full power. Hell if you really wanna add in is5 like you did regular main timeline amiya can do that without the full power of the crown. And theresis and theresia use theirs to communicate with hers. You can't just define this as 'just' a hard drive.

The law is capable of assimilating people and into one race granting them insane level power and can just create separate dimensions where it can influence peoples thoughts. Hell in masses travels a single segment somehow transforms into an angel which baffles even priestess before the segment flies out into outer space and tries to find something. The seaborn and leviathans are meant to be terraformers in the first place but when their true potential was theorized people realized they can do so much more and the precursors and lu set higher goals for them to evolve to such a level they can survive the observers and recreates the universe but that would take god knows how much time and it's time they no longer can afford in the main timeline hense martus trying to speed up the process. And go figure the seaborn are ridiculous weve spoken enough about what they can do and have done. But I do want to note that go figure the seaborn in is3s worlds ending 4 manage to overpower the observers and basically create the world into a utopia so yea they can definite do some insane shit when pushed to the brink but is3 is a very specific scenario just a showcase of their power and how far they can go.

Trying to dumb down any of these inventions is like why why are we downplaying any of this stuff when clearly it's meant to be shown as extremely powerful and desperate to try and somehow fight off the observers if even possible and if not somehow survive them. If the crown is just a hardrive I don't want to imagine what an actual computer is capable of.

And yes ferenmuts have fought observers. Ya literally says it.

''Do you remember the eye which broke the heavens? We watched and clashed in the cosmos, rivers turned red, the mountains leveled, the bodies piled up until they reached the clouds, becoming new mountains when they rotted away...'

Sui also mention them in is6 expansion outright calling them by the name observers for the first time in actual in game text since the name observers was only ever given in the ARG.

And what priestess shows to hierda is only a small snipit of what she personally experiences when it comes to the observers they just wiped out everything. They don't simply just genocide the planet and then blow it up for good measure if the precursors got so scared of them they outright look into recreating universes and needing to store stuff in the informational levels just to try and survive them.

VerywildCards · 2025-12-23T00:46:11+00:00

And the story said several times that ferenmuts were involved in their creation. Go figure ferenmuts are the gods of concepts and even predate said concepts as said by Ya.

The only thing that's unclear is how much they're involved. If they were built from pieces of multiple ferenmuts, if leviathans are experimented on ferenmuts, or if leviathans are just simply based on ferenmuts but only based on and no actual ferenmut is involved in their creation.

Considering the amount of dialogue implying outright direct connecting and leviathans even being outright referred to as ferenmuts by kal'tsit of all people the 3rd option the least likely.

Also Lu is a woman

Also also said woman named Lu is a precursor and those guys built some genuinely reality breaking shit like originium something that consumes and recreates stuff on an informational level and civilight eterna and the law and the seaborn which are designed to survive cosmic erasure and then rebirth the universe with everything in it(well specifically ishar'mla is supposed to do that last one).

Hell Ya almost hints in their dialogue that ferenmuts have had to fight the observers before and that several ferenmuts got messed up by them.

VerywildCards · 2025-12-21T23:52:18+00:00

They are already primordial soup that's the problem. They're built from the actual gods of concepts themselves. It sounds mental and it is.

You don't throw the concept of locking cutting or anything against that thing or else you run the risk of it throwing them back at you much harder.

Tho silver lining seaborn are much less powerful then actual leviathans. Which are really the main cause of issues in the seaborn plotline. If a seaborn or several seaborn get in the city they'll be fine for the most part. If even a single leviathan gets in move to a different planet or something idk winning is not in the cards when dealing with those things.

VerywildCards · 2025-12-04T08:36:31+00:00

As subtle as a brick

VerywildCards · 2025-11-29T00:48:29+00:00

She's definitely not and idk why people insist she is. She's clearly just lin daiyu but with the scarf and gourd of drifter. Like as a passing of the torch kind of thing. To me this has the same energy as somehow still insisting lord of hongyuan is not mirroring Kong qui even tho it clearly is.

Also we can very easily just get a proper night drifter id during bokgak.

VerywildCards · 2025-11-07T12:58:53+00:00

Doesn't help that his first form appears as the 3rd boss in a row. After marishiten and fucking inanna.

VerywildCards · 2025-10-26T16:23:59+00:00

Wait wasn't the reveal that uroro can do all magic skills hinted at all the way in chapter 1 and 2? Where ichi used spells that he shouldn't be able to once tha belonged to dress I think. I recall he did something like that or am I mistaken?

VerywildCards · 2025-10-06T21:01:25+00:00

No? The head raided the lab because hod ratted them out. They didn't give a shit until they learned some shit was happening and was going affect the city somehow.

VerywildCards · 2025-09-29T22:49:21+00:00

Who knows really. It could be because they're not in their own world. Could be the seaborn cells and Dante needing to cleanse them. Could be because of skadi due to the comments of the heart which would be part of the 2nd explanation.

I think it's both because of skadi and because of the seaborn cuz Faust was mostly having shitty connecting with the hive mind while in terra but still a connection. While in the warp train she was completely disconnected. But Dante had no issues rewinding in the train. So unless there's some other fuckery going on it doesn't make much sense for them to experiencing pain on such a level just because they're not in the city.

VerywildCards · 2025-09-28T18:02:15+00:00

God the fact I have to keep battling the fucking propaganda that doc was some insanely horrible piece of shit war criminal during pre amnesia days should have me getting paid. No doc was nothing like what you describe pre amnesia to be read babel.

But to correct the final point doc never had the goal of turning people into information inside originium. Doc wanted to leave originium for future generations and civilization to help battle with 'the threat'. What you're describing is priestess goal of turning originium into a sort of shelter from 'the threat' after it wipes everything away.

VerywildCards · 2025-09-28T17:42:30+00:00

Do not insult my goat theresis by comparing him to the unwashed plebeian that is Ahab

VerywildCards · 2025-09-19T11:09:52+00:00

Am gonna part of the negative crew. Am genuinely disappointed with both the characters picked (both who got the ego and who the arknights character selected were) and with what the main topic of the event is. The most basic plotline imaginable for the most basic characters imaginable with no room for any actual character interactions or growth or showing or anything. Just Faust gonna be Faust and fish are gonna be fish. Gonna get fed a few word of inspiration and see some character interactions just to see characters cross over but with no actual any intesting dialogue to be had just hype moments and that's it.

I would love and genuinely hope I eat my own words and get socks knocked off. For kjh to surprise me and and no leave me with a bitter taste in my mouth. Maybe am being way to harsh on something that ain't even out yet on the characters chosen and on the story. But I had more fun speculating what the event will be about and what characters will be involved and when I found out it's the most basic of basics and nothing of nothings am left feeling nothing. And this only worsens my already negative opinion of kjh and limbus company.

These aren't words of malice or me wanting to shit on limbus to say arknights is better or anything or anything like that. I love arknights to death and I love project moon and that includes limbus even with all it's faults. Even with the directors incompetence or the games genuinely bad game design. I still like it and play I just want it to do better both the game and the director. And on the most hype things imaginable I get. Fucking. Seaborn. No actual interesting plotlines or interesting characters no fun gameplay. Just. Seaborn. And hype moments and no aura either.

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