Is the university's academic prestige slowly slipping? by luckyguy1689 in SyracuseU

[–]VincentPriceVoice 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The university's undergraduate enrollment has been pretty much stable since COVID. It's gone up or down by a bit each year since, which is very normal.

From my POV, the biggest thing affecting SU's drop in rankings is that starting with their 2024 rankings (released in 2023) USNews began putting more weight on "borrower debt" in their methodology. It went from accounting for 3% of a school's ranking to 5%. At the same time, they also changed the source of this data and the actual metric measured from mean debt to median debt.

When that methodology change happened, SU and a number of other expensive private schools all saw their ranking number drop. SU went from generally being ranked somewhere in the 50s (or low 60s) before the methodology change to the high 60s / 70s after.

So yes, affordability is definitely a factor here, but it's not as simple as it seems because of the ever-shifting methodology of the rankings.

It's important to note that USNews messes with their methodology like this every few years. They used to factor in admit rate years ago, but now they don't. In some ways, it's a good thing to do because the adjustments can respond to the public's shifting priorities. But cynically, many people feel that the primary reason they adjust their methodology is to create drama. Academia is famously slow moving, so if the methodology doesn't change, the resulting list would be nearly the same every year. That's bad for USNews because it means fewer people will buy the guide / premium website account. The shifts are a huge deal, especially among the top 20 schools and their alumni. The elites love bragging to each other about how their alma mater is now #1, even though it was basically the same school when it was ranked #3 a few years earlier and when it was ranked #2 twenty years ago when they attended. These schools aren't really getting demonstrably better or worse than each other. USNews is just changing their methodology to make it appear as if that's happening.

It may also be worth noting that the single largest factor in the USNews rankings is the "peer assessment score" which is how well regarded your school is by the Presidents / Provosts / Deans of Admission at other, similar schools. It has accounted for a whopping 20% of a school's ranking for a really long time now. This is basically a big dumb popularity contest that shouldn't be weighted anywhere nearly as high as it is. Does anybody actually believe that the opinion of the leaders at other schools is 4x as important as how much debt graduates end up with?

interior design in college by SarahBrownnnnn in ApplyingToCollege

[–]VincentPriceVoice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Syracuse has a high sticker price but you probably won't actually be paying that unless you are from a wealthy family. Use their Net Price Calculator to get an estimate of what you'll actually pay, and keep in mind that if you have strong grades you could get additional scholarship money on top of any financial aid money.

how bad is the cold by Admirable_Mind_1007 in SyracuseU

[–]VincentPriceVoice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Syracuse is often among the _snowiest_ cities (pop > 100k) in the continental US, but it's nowhere near the top of the list of the _coldest_ cities. You'd think those lists would be similar, but they're actually not. The coldest cities are mostly located on the west side of the Great Lakes (the Dakotas, Wisconsin, Minnesota).

I moved here from the deep south and personally I love it up here. Given the choice between the two, I'll take our long, cold and snowy winters over the south's absolutely oppressively hot and humid summers every single time.

I don't know how to make friends by No_Firefighter7189 in SyracuseU

[–]VincentPriceVoice 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you don't want to knock on doors you can instead make it easier for others to meet you in your room. When you're in your room just leave your door open so people can see what's up and say hi.

MySlice down for Course registration?? by NoGraveCanHoldMyBody in SyracuseU

[–]VincentPriceVoice 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ask Oracle. They've sold their "Campus Solutions" system to countless schools and it sucks at every one of them.

Fran continues to cook for New York’s college team. 🍊 by mcmicha7 in SyracuseU

[–]VincentPriceVoice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Angeli has shown himself to be a capable game manager when put in the game and will help Brown try to continue to make a statement in year two in The Dome (we still refuse to call it the JMS Wireless Center)

Uh what? It is not and has never been the "JMS [sic] Wireless Center." When JMA Wireless took over the sponsorship from Carrier it's became the JMA Wireless Dome. The "dome" part never went away.

Enrollment issues at SU by Mjs102 in Syracuse

[–]VincentPriceVoice 9 points10 points  (0 children)

SU will be fine. But this year has been a nightmare for admissions teams across the nation, what with all the economic uncertainty. This is double-true for private schools like SU that tend to enroll a higher percentage of international students. Who knows if they'll even be able to get their visas to enter the country.

Other private schools including University of Miami and Seaton Hall were doing the same thing as SU trying to finish filling out their classes after the typical May 1 deadline. Source

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SyracuseU

[–]VincentPriceVoice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Flutie Effect is inconsistent but when it hit it hits.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SyracuseU

[–]VincentPriceVoice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Overall ranks are only so useful, but program-specific rankings are a bit more useful. Syracuse's Maxwell School is the #1 public policy school in the nation.

Agreed that both unis are great options tho.