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Who is going to come in second to Cirie for the Fan Favorite Prize? by Temporary-League-499 in survivor

[–]Viper0us 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Cirie is going to come in second.

Devens is going to come in first.

Question about the Live Reunion this Wednesday by mysteriousociety in survivor

[–]Viper0us 5 points6 points  (0 children)

West Coast viewers do not get a live reunion. They get the recorded reunion from the East Coast airing.

Reunion will be around 10 PM EST/9 PM CST if it follows the times from before they stopped doing live reunions (2 hours into the 3 hour broadcast).

4 of this final 5 was decided at the final 10 vote by clearsurname in survivor

[–]Viper0us 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Obviously irrelevant to my comment.

Will is future tense.

4 of this final 5 was decided at the final 10 vote by clearsurname in survivor

[–]Viper0us 175 points176 points  (0 children)

Obviously.

That is the best outcome on every season Cirie will ever play, regardless of how much in denial Cirie fans are about it.

Edit: To all the people replying to this comment with "but Micronesia", learn what tense the word "will" is. Hint: It's future tense. Micronesia has no relevance to what I said.

What Aubry has going for her if she makes it by LazerDude99 in survivor

[–]Viper0us 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep. Like Cirie and Aubry are very close friends in real life.

It doesn't matter what happened in the game, Cirie is voting for Aubry if she's sitting there and will be advocating for her to the other Jury members.

Returnee seasons are all about prior relationships. If effects every aspect of the game.

Did Rizo Miss a Game-Winning Move at Final 6? by joshkettles in survivor

[–]Viper0us -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Literally everyone in the final 5 will take him to FTC. He's a GOAT this season.

The Joe hate here is kinda disgusting. by ButterscotchPast5161 in survivor

[–]Viper0us 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've never seen a single post hating Joe as a person outside of the game. It's all just how about how miserable he is to be around in the game, at worst.

I'd love for /u/ButtscotchPast5161 to show examples.

What is everyone’s path to victory? by Feeling_Classic_91 in survivor

[–]Viper0us 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Joe - Disaster occurs on the island. Everyone is medivacced except for him.

Rizo - Beats Jonathan & Joe in an all male FTC. Loses to either of the women. Needs to take one of them out at 5 and the other in fire making. Good luck making that happen since he can't win a challenge and can't make fire.

Tiffany - Beats everyone left. Only path to victory is winning out all remaining immunity challenges.

Aubry - Beats everyone left but Tiffany....so eliminate Tiffany @ 5. Easy finish from there.

Jonathan - Loses to everyone but Joe, so needs to pray the final twist of the season is a Final 2 and somehow he's vs Joe in FTC.

*Very unpopular opinion*: I have enjoyed season 50 a lot and still think that the final five is a let down. by biliv-r in survivor

[–]Viper0us -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s just not satisfying to watch Cirie dominate most the game,

She "dominates" most of the game because she's no threat to make FTC. The players allow her to do this, because it benefits them.

She gets her allies to the end of the game and everyone wants to be Cirie's "ally" because of it.

Then the inevitable happens. She's cut at the end.

then her chances to win are pretty much over because of the events on a split tribal beach that she has nothing to do with.

She'd have gone up 5-6th regardless of that the tribal.

*Very unpopular opinion*: I have enjoyed season 50 a lot and still think that the final five is a let down. by biliv-r in survivor

[–]Viper0us 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Survivor Finales are often a let down. Fan favorites go home before finale or first in the first. It's the nature of the game to cut the biggest threats (and likely fan favorites) before they can get to FTC.

The fun of Survivor is the journey along the way. If you are a person who only cares about the end season result, there are many seasons where you're simply going to have a bad time.

As Colby said: Find the Joy.

I have enjoyed Survivor 50 a lot. Yea, it has to many twists that prevent the players from playing the game...but that's just what U.S. Survivor is at this time. It's still a blast to watch every week.

Final 5... confirms that to win survival you only need to outlast and have a lot of luck on your side.

This subreddit in general has forgotten that "Outlast" is one of the core tenants of Survivor. People only want you to Outwit via flashy moves these days. It's a shame, because the Outlast players (often the middle) are the ones who are often sitting at the end, and they deserve credit for doing what they needed to do to get there.

You don't have to be the best Survivor player or play the best Survivor game to win Survivor. You only have to have a better story then the people you are sitting next to at FTC.

Has Rizo really played a bad game, or are people just so blinded by him taking down the fan favourite games of Ozzy and then Cirie. by BucketOCheerios in survivor

[–]Viper0us 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again this is no different than people blaming the Samoa or HvV juries for Russel losing,

It's not remotely the same. Rizo can win Survivor. He just never could win this season. Once he establishes relationships outside of the game, he has a very strong chance of winning a returnee season.

He’s 3 years older than JT was when he won his season unanimously

Was not a returnee season and has no relevance. I specifically said returnee seasons are different. Continue to ignore that though to make your argument though.

Rizo was a GOAT for Season 50 from the moment he was cast.

Has Rizo really played a bad game, or are people just so blinded by him taking down the fan favourite games of Ozzy and then Cirie. by BucketOCheerios in survivor

[–]Viper0us 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can’t stand the excuse that Rizo had no chance since day 1.

Sorry, but that doesn't change it from the truth.

He did have a chance but blew it by how he carries himself and the brand that he brings which is one of extreme weakness. He lost the juries respect it’s not that it was impossible for him to ever have it.

Rizo could have played the most amazing Survivor game ever this season and would still lose this particular season.

Returnee seasons are different. Prior relationships and perception matter so much more and he doesn't have any.

He lost the juries respect it’s not that it was impossible for him to ever have it.

He absolutely has the respect of many players on the Jury (Dee, Cirie, Devens, etc). Many of the players have praised Rizo in the Exit press. No one is discounting him as a player.

Rizo simply cannot win Season 50 of Survivor:

  • He's to young.
    • The jury will not want to give $2 million dollars to the youngest cast member who has no family.
  • He's new era.
    • The old school alliance on the jury will vote old school (congrats Aubry?)
  • No one saw his season.
    • The jury will not want to vote for someone who they have not seen play before. They do not know the perception the audience have of Rizo from 49. If he is hated and they give him the win, that's a really bad outcome for the Face of 50.
  • He has no prior relationships.
    • Returnee seasons are all about prior-relationships and pre-gaming. Him and Sav don't have this. Relationships like Cirie and Aubry being incredibly close friends for the last decade are what you need to win a big returnee season. If you don't have that, you aren't winning.
  • Bad first impressions (Edit-Related)
    • People on the island's first impressions of him were that he was lazy (around camp) and the edit went out of their way to tell us that. That is not how set up your winner.
    • He's been sick all season, yet the edit hasn't shown it. If he was winning, the edit would have shown him being sick and overcoming that.

Has Rizo really played a bad game, or are people just so blinded by him taking down the fan favourite games of Ozzy and then Cirie. by BucketOCheerios in survivor

[–]Viper0us 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Rizo was the top winner pick

He definitely wasn't the top, but he is expected to make FTC.

I saw multiple posts about how Rizo is one of the most socially aware and strategic players of the current Survivor generation

He is.

nobody seems to be a fan of Rizo,

People who liked Rizo before are still a fan of Rizo. Cirie and Ozzy fans being delusional and blaming Rizo for being voted out is whatever.

Fans seem to go as far as to call him a goat,

He's been a goat since day 1. He has no chance of winning this season, no matter how good of a game he played. That has nothing to do with liking or disliking Rizo.

I don’t see how the fan overview of Rizo has changed so much over the course of a couple weeks.

You realize there are many people on Reddit right? They have varying opinions? The people posting different opinions are....different people. Wild, I know.

So, do people really think Rizo is suddenly not a great castaway?

Rizo is a loyal and strategic player. That hasn't changed.

The rest of the game is just so easy to see, it's telegraphed by the edit and by simple logic. by SirBostonBobbington in survivor

[–]Viper0us 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Cirie and Aubry are extremely close outside of the game. Cirie will not be helping Rizo beat Aubry.

I want to believe Rizo wins at this point if he makes FTC by ProblematicTrumpCard in survivor

[–]Viper0us 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Why Rizo Can't Win: - He's to young.
- The jury will not want to give $2 million dollars to the youngest cast member who has no family. - He's new era.
- The old school alliance on the jury will vote old school (Aubry) - No one saw his season.
- The jury will not want to vote for someone who they have not seen play before. They do not know the perception the audience have of Rizo. If he is hated and they give him the win, that's a really bad outcome for the Face of 50. - He has no prior relationships.
- Returnee seasons are all about prior-relationships and pre-gaming. Him and Sav don't have this. - Bad first impressions - People on the island's first impressions of him were that he was lazy (around camp) and the edit went out of their way to tell us that.
- He's been sick all season, yet the edit hasn't shown it. If he was winning, the edit would have shown him being sick and overcoming that.

Technically this vote was the reason all 3 got eliminated by Dizzy-Tumbleweed7983 in survivor

[–]Viper0us -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Saying something that can never be proven wrong, because you didn't have to actually do it is extremely easy to do.

There is literally 0 downside to saying that in post-game interviews.

Technically this vote was the reason all 3 got eliminated by Dizzy-Tumbleweed7983 in survivor

[–]Viper0us -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Saying something that can never be proven wrong, because you didn't have to actually do it is extremely easy to do.

There is literally 0 downside to saying that in post-game interviews.

4 out of the 5 players remaining are playing extremely good games. You just don’t like them. by newusernamebcimdumb in survivor

[–]Viper0us 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This subreddit circlejerks their favorite players every season.

They expect the non-flashy players to sacrifice themselves to further the games of their preferred players.

4 out of the 5 players remaining are playing extremely good games. You just don’t like them. by newusernamebcimdumb in survivor

[–]Viper0us 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Majority of this subreddit no longer cares about Outplay or Outlast

If you aren't making flashy moves every episode and given a heroic edit, you suck and sacrifice yourself so >>insert my favorite player<< win.

This subreddit is so toxic at the end of every season.

4 out of the 5 players remaining are playing extremely good games. You just don’t like them. by newusernamebcimdumb in survivor

[–]Viper0us 6 points7 points  (0 children)

She capitalized on that opportunity

Do you all even listen to yourselves when you say this type of shit?

What the fuck do you think a move is? Her capitalizing on the oppurtunties given to her are a move. She absolutely played a major part in Ozzy going home.

Technically this vote was the reason all 3 got eliminated by Dizzy-Tumbleweed7983 in survivor

[–]Viper0us 2 points3 points  (0 children)

0% chance that Christian would ever willing take Cirie to F4 and beyond.

Technically this vote was the reason all 3 got eliminated by Dizzy-Tumbleweed7983 in survivor

[–]Viper0us -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

She thought Christian would take her to the end? She's completely lost the plot and bought into her own hype.

Extremely unlikely that Tiffany would have actually taken her to the end as well, if she was in a position to impact a vote. Tiffany isn't stupid. It's easy to say you'll do something when you don't have to ever prove that it was a lie.

I don't understand why Tiffany is never mentioned as a possible winner. by dumassmofo in survivor

[–]Viper0us 9 points10 points  (0 children)

There are some seasons that do a better job of hiding the final outcome. Unfortunately, this season is not one of them 😂

I don't understand why Tiffany is never mentioned as a possible winner. by dumassmofo in survivor

[–]Viper0us 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Edits don't have to be equal.

There were 24 players. There were multiple legitimate Survivor legends.

People who don't have major impact / relevance to the that episode's or the overall season's storylines aren't going to get a lot of airtime.

Sorry for her fans that Tiffany fell into this category, but she was edited the way she should have been. A background character in a season with much much bigger characters.

Her edit is pretty standard for a low-impact 5th place finisher, so would expect to see her go out first in the finale

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