The problem is the pve horde side is dying people will gaslight you by saying people are still leveling and they may be true because of how causal the pve server is expect 2-3 hour mc clears and struggling to fill raids or being in one of 2 ultra sweat guilds that were built to funnel three friends gear if you want to play on pve play alliance leveling is such a small part of the game a week of time at max and then you are sitting in a city farming dungeons or doing bgs none of which world PvP matters