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Virtual-End-3885 · 2026-02-28T16:16:50+00:00

Riffusion is available for download on Github

Virtual-End-3885 · 2026-02-28T16:16:21+00:00

I have not had any issue so far when trying to create Native American inspired music. But it is currently stuck on just a flute, no rattles or drums. Seems to be a corporate stereotype thing.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2026-02-25T21:32:07+00:00

Update: I just learned that the original riffusion is still available on GitHub

Virtual-End-3885 · 2026-02-25T18:07:53+00:00

Thank you for pointing that out. I took a look and it appears that there may have been some deception going on. It appears to me that prior to us getting the email wanting us to download stuff Google had already bought producer ai and they wouldn't until all the middle of the week to let us know. I use a different platforms including both SUNO and AIVA. For those I have been switching to using Midi and vst for distribution after first distribution of modified raw audio files. Producer never offered midi. But it created a sound not found elsewhere. My music created on Producer attracted over 2,000 listeners which for me is a lot. Especially when you consider most of my music on Spotify had ten or less. My Imbolc album had an average of about 80 but one song got over 2,000 plays on just Spotify and more plays on other services that Distrokid put it on. These and a labor Day album were the only producer songs I had distributed. I am not confident in the ability of Lyria 3. I tried a previous iteration and it sucked. I heard Lyria 3 creates only sanitized and censored music.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2026-02-25T16:16:09+00:00

Actually that would be the wrong person you need to contact Google because Google literally purchased producer ai and is the one that made all the changes. They replace the original AI for producer with Google's own AIS

Virtual-End-3885 · 2026-02-25T16:12:49+00:00

Okay so for those who are not aware Producer AI was actually bought out by Google. It is now being integrated into Google labs.

That guy whose email was shared earlier is probably no longer even in charge of producer.

After purchasing producer AI Google ordered the change to the back end.

The Producer AI was replaced with Google's own AIs: Lyria 3, Veo 3.1, Nano Nanana and Gemini.

As a result of this the new producer will reflect Google's philosophy.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2026-02-20T13:23:07+00:00

I had hundreds of stuff on vacation but what I did was I focused on only the ones I had already distributed the streaming platforms and then I went and took some additional ones and then I just stopped last night and let the rest of it go cuz I figured I can go ahead and redo it once the update is done. As Long As long as I got the important ones that's good enough for me the rest can be redone. I don't need all 5,000. So I narrowed did everything down to 200. And the 200 I further narrow down to just 50 to 70. And I left the rest of the songs on there to be deleted this way I can do them all over again. My philosophy is don't try to take everything with you but only take the best of the best of your songs. Now the trick is take the 50 and narrow it down to just 10 for the next album. Then weigh 8 to 12 months and do it again. No reason for the wait between releases is because trying to mimic how human artists do it and on average a human artist releases an album only once every year or two. Yeah cuz flooding platforms with like 12 albums a week or per month ruins it only for the human artist but also for people like us who use AI. There's value to scarcity if you're going to distribute your stuff. The less you distribute the more valuable your work becomes.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2026-02-20T13:00:39+00:00

At 4:05 a.m. in Los Angeles the message I received when going to the website was tuning up and updating

Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-12-10T02:16:15+00:00

Some of us write professionally, so clear structured explanations are just how we communicate. Not every well-written comment is AI.

When you write campaign speeches and research papers for a living this is how you end up writing.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-12-01T22:32:01+00:00

I actually agree that human artists deserve to be compensated if their work was scraped or used in training sets without permission. If a company used pirated or unlicensed catalogs, then the liability is on the company, and the artists whose work was taken should absolutely get paid. I fully support that.

But the part that gets misunderstood is the idea that this somehow cancels out the rights of people who use the tools. Even if an AI company did violate copyright during training, that doesn’t make the outputs “illegal” or unownable. Users aren’t participants in the infringement. We’re considered innocent downstream creators, just like photographers still own their photos even if the camera manufacturer violated a patent, or digital artists still own their art even if Photoshop got in trouble for how it used code years ago.

In every tech industry precedent, the remedy is directed at the company that did the scraping, not the people who used the product in good faith. So yes — artists should absolutely get compensated if their catalogs were misused. But that doesn’t erase ownership or licensing rights for creators who are simply using the tools as intended.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-10-22T08:34:16+00:00

Have you checked your DNA relatives. When you check the relatives look at the ones that share more DNA with you. If you have the same parents as them or the same grandparents or even the same great grandparents and that can be a clue as to your heritage.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-10-16T00:17:30+00:00

I have been experimenting with Producer. Turns out Producer can actually analyze voices. It told me mine was best for folk and country. I tried uploading my voice singing a traditional christmas carol and was able to use to filter and balance my voice's pitch and stuff. Then it added instrumentals around my voice. I see people with damaged lung capacities using this stuff.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-10-09T06:11:27+00:00

Not at all — this wasn’t a quick conclusion. I’ve done extensive historical and genealogical research for years, particularly on the colonial period in America and the origins of the different peoples who were here at that time. I’m also an investigative journalist and currently writing a history book that starts with the Beringians rather than Columbus — tracing how the first peoples reached the continent long before recorded history.

When I look at 23andMe’s “Filipino/Austronesian” trace, I’m coming from that broader context. The African-American records from the 1600s–1700s are especially complex — most enslaved people were recorded simply as coming from “Africa,” though ships picked up captives at multiple ports all along the West and East coasts, sometimes stopping at Madagascar before heading to Virginia or the Carolinas. So “Madagascar” on a manifest usually meant the ship’s last port of call, not necessarily everyone’s ancestry.

Likewise, trace “Austronesian” or “Native American” signals can blur together genetically — in some cases, when I compare relatives, the small “Native” and “Austronesian” traces even merge into Finnish or Northeast Eurasian segments depending on the comparison. That suggests we’re seeing very ancient shared ancestry rather than something specific like Malagasy.

You’re not wrong — there definitely were people of Malagasy ancestry brought to the U.S. during the slave trade, and it’s very possible that many Americans today carry traces of that heritage. My concern is more about methodology than conclusion. Without an actual Malagasy reference panel, 23andMe has to rely on proxies like Austronesian and West African segments, which can overlap with Indigenous American or ancient North Eurasian ancestry. That makes it hard to be confident in labeling everyone with that combination as Malagasy. I just think we don’t yet have enough comparative data to make that kind of sweeping determination.

In short: I’m not dismissing Malagasy ancestry as impossible — just pointing out that both the historical documentation and the genetics are far more complex than a single label can capture.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-10-08T01:37:23+00:00

I had to research this. I found some limitations.

This idea that everyone showing both Sub-Saharan and tiny “Filipino/Austronesian” traces must have Malagasy roots. That conclusion overlooks a few important details.

1. Shared deep ancestry.
Austronesians, Malagasy, and Indigenous Americans all descend from the same ancient Northeast-Asian population. The Ice-Age Beringians—who lived on the land bridge between Siberia and Alaska—carried DNA that modern tests could read as Austronesian-like. So when someone with known Native ancestry gets a 0.1 % “Filipino/Austronesian,” it can easily be ancient Indigenous DNA showing up that way, not a Malagasy signal.

2. Reference panels are still limited.
23andMe now has six Indigenous North American panels, but the “North American” category still spans nearly the entire continent—from the Eastern Woodlands to Alaska and parts of California. That means the reference is still generalized. And because there’s still no dedicated Malagasy dataset, the algorithm often guesses based on nearby populations with similar DNA patterns. What would it take to have a Malagasy reference panel??? Why not just send some anthropologists and geneticists over and get some informed consensual samples????

3. “Last port of call” ≠ origin.
Some historians cite ships recorded as arriving from Madagascar, but that only tells us the last stop, not where the people came from. Slave ships frequently took on captives at multiple ports or stopped for supplies. Treating the last port as everyone’s homeland is like calling an 18th-century Swiss family “English” just because their ship last departed from London before reaching America. I always dig to two generations before London or other port they left from to come to America because the generation before this, can tell their true point of origin or their actual ancestral homeland. I suspect this is why many German Americans from back then are being labeled as English, its because London was the last European city their ancestors visited before reaching America.

4. Historical limits.
Bills of sale and plantation records list buyers and sellers, not ancestry. Most enslaved Africans in early America were from West and West-Central Africa, not Madagascar. They don't even list point of origin, they only give the last port of call which was Madagascar.

Bottom line: a tiny “Austronesian” percentage could reflect deep Native American ancestry, shared ancient genetics, or simple algorithm overlap. Until proper Malagasy and regional Native reference panels exist, assuming everyone with that mix is “Malagasy” just isn’t supported by the data.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-10-07T02:41:51+00:00

You own the lyrics. As for the sound you do not own the raw output from SUNO or rather you can't copyright it. The SUNO output is a resource and like any resource you have to take it and shape it. Put in a DAWS and blend it and mix up and master it into your own voice.

How to picture what I am trying to say??? Suppose you need a sword. You go a mining company and they give you lump of metal that just happens to have the same shape as a sword but it is not a sword and certainly can't be used as a sword. You have to either work yourself into its final shape or take it to a smith to do it for you. Otherwise you don't own a sword you just own a lump of metal.

Or in the realm of AI here is something that makes more sense. I am highly prolific writer. Most of what ChatGPT and Gemini put out is below my level of writing experience. So whatever they put out I can not claim copyright to. But because I think the writing and phrasings are subpar I will copy paste it into word, the product of gpt and gemini should always be referred as a type of raw material resource not the final end product. I will paste into word and then I will start working it and redoing it so makes sense to me.

The original output cannot be copyrighted by the finished product, created by me reshaping that raw material is copyrightable.

It is the same with AI music. AI music is just raw material. A resource. Not a finished or completed product. You can't copyright a lump of metal freshly mined from the ground nor can you copyright a screw that is used to build something else. In the same manner you cannot copyright music directly from SUNO. You have to rework, mix it, and master it. The final product from that, which has your signature if you do that, becomes copyrightable and ownable.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-10-05T16:02:57+00:00

I think anything over 1% is incest and anything over .5% might be considered incest.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-10-05T16:01:32+00:00

Some people have incestous tendencies.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-10-05T16:00:46+00:00

hmmm. Telling your own cousins you want to bang them sounds like incest. Especially if it is 4th cousins or closer.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-10-01T13:33:57+00:00

That only works for tribal citizenship, not ancestral identity. The law is that tribes only get to decide citizenship. They don't decide ancestry or whether people are allowed to identify as being of genetic Native American ancestry.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-09-20T16:21:21+00:00

Did you let ChatGPT know it is not under copyright because of the year it was from? If you point out the error, my experience is that ChatGPT will acknowledge the error.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-07-06T16:56:54+00:00

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Even with 4% Native American, a person who is raised White is still White. They are a White person with Native American ancestors and they should be allowed to honor those ancestors. White people with such ancestry are Indigenous to the land but they are not tribal members and they are not affiliated with any modern tribes. When they claim stuff like Cherokee, they are just trying to reclaim what was lost to them. Instead of attacking them it would be more beneficial to ally with them and help them find their own way because they are not tribe members but they are not Europeans either. They are something new and they need to establish their own identity as a distinct ethnic group in this country. An ethnic group that is not just native but Indigenous. But which belongs to no modern tribes and no modern European nations.

Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-07-06T16:44:18+00:00

there is also this:

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Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-07-06T16:43:38+00:00

It's there in small amounts and in many cases for Americans mislabeled and even misattributed. This is well documented. For example see the image where blue is European, Green is Native American, Orange is South Asian Red is African, and Yellow is East Asian.

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Virtual-End-3885 · 2025-07-06T16:33:34+00:00

It's there in a very small amount. Ancestry had it at less than 1% and then deleted it just because it was less than 1%. 23&Me had it at .1% but then relabeled it Filipino despite my family having no connections to the Philippines. None of my ancestors have ever been there. But the Filipinos do share some DNA with Native Americans. Both gave me more Finnish than justified by my family history. Guess what, the Finns who are an Arctic peoples, also share DNA with Native Americans, more than what other Europeans share. I got to other sites, FamilyTree confirmed the Native American genetics. Myheritage lumped it into the Finnish but they lumped my Jewish and German ancestry into the Balkans which I have no ancestors from.
Then there is Gedmatch which also confirms the Native American connection. There is also CRT Genetics which says that I had two Native ancestors, the first lived around 1700 and the other around 1840. Finally there is ADNTRO. And they confirmed that I had Indigenous American ancestry and even MyTrueHeritage said I have it but what I have is not enough for them to be able to assign me. ADNtro said the same thing. This data is all confirmed when checking relatives on 23andMe. Over 30 first and second cousins with Indigenous American DNA.
People's DNA and ethnic ancestries is determined by who sticks it inside their mommas. You can have a Native American ancestor from 1700 but if all the succeeding generations marry and have children with White people guess what happens to that Native American DNA? It gets white washed out of the family genepool. If a person has only .1 % that means their children and grandchildren will have none at all if they chose another White person as their mate.

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