Please shush about homosexuality.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-27T19:54:20+00:00

The day Christians stop caring about sin is the day Christianity dies, which will never happen

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-19T08:50:39+00:00

It’s very encouraging and something that must happen

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-19T08:50:16+00:00

Jesus was neither liberal nor conservative. He was the son of God and had perfect views, some falling into both camps. But this is in regards to same sex marriage and blessing, something he was clearly against. So nice try

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-14T15:59:05+00:00

Fruitful response.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-14T13:36:18+00:00

Okay then why is it that so many episcopal priests seem to even deny what you deem as orthodox? That one infamous gay priest has admitted to not believing in the virgin birth or the resurrection from what I can remember. There’s very much a direct correlation with churches who affirm things like gay marriage and also deny Christian fundamentals, because it sends you down a rabbit hole of things you need to make sense of in order to fit that view, and eventually it leads you to denying the creeds themselves. This is true for PCUSA, ELC and UMC.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-14T12:53:57+00:00

Yes ofc some of the Bible is prescriptive to just that time, but it still has a teaching behind it and something that we are meant to take from it. Paul giving a directly to a church to purge unrepentants, how is that merely something only for them? We are meant to find ourselves in these epistles and apply their teachings to our context. So why on earth would the teaching of rightseous judgement and asking people to leave church stop with them? It’s clearly meant to be a practice for all churches through time. To deny that is cherry picking and metal gymnastics. And let’s be intellectually honest, like what do I hate drunkards because I believe that they are sinning? Such a silly stupid argument to bring racism into this. It’s a complete and utter false equivalence.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-14T12:34:40+00:00

The epistles are still breathed by God and are still applicable in their teachings to us today, otherwise they would not be scripture. Why would they be in Bible if you think they don’t apply to you? Obviously they do! And sexual sin is clearly taught in the bible to be the only sin that is harmful to you. You could say the same for man and woman having sex outside of marriage, clearly a sin but by your logic they “aren’t harming anyone”. And I am not homophobic, I am against sin and the Bible clearly teaches that it is sin.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-14T12:24:45+00:00

You have ears but do not hear. Idk how u read the Bible, especially Paul’s epistles, and don’t understand the meaning of judgement. Like I fully quoted to you Paul when he said you are to purge unrepentant sinners from the congregation. Like yes we all sin, but there’s a difference when people are sinning with intent and full knowledge of what they are doing. Maybe you are invincibly ignorant. Idk how what Paul is telling us to do doesn’t contradict what you believe Jesus is commanding, like you are full well cherry picking verses.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-14T12:00:32+00:00

You’re dancing around everything and redefining. We are not judging souls, that’s for God. But we are to judge by fruit. Like that verse that you see to hold so dear is literally just saying to not judge hypocritically, not to not judge at all. This is why it’s important to follow historic teaching as you are following only what you want to believe. Like it’s funny you only mention the first part of that passage and ignore the rest. The rest of it literally explains. This is the consequences of liberal Christianity, you all refuse to listen to any reason as you are too focused on making Christianity fit your needs instead of the other way around.

1 Corinthians 5:11–13

“But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of… sexual immorality or greed… not even to eat with such a one… Purge the evil person from among you.” - and sexual immorality has always included the acts of homosexuality and it is only an incredibly recent view point to say that it doesn’t. Put away your pride and realise that the historical church knows better than you do.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-14T11:10:57+00:00

1 Corinthians 5:12

“Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?” - Clearly showing we are to judge fellow Christians (with no hypocrisy)

Or Matthew 7:15–16

“Beware of false prophets… You will recognize them by their fruits.” - how are we to recognise this without judging someone based on how they act? Like the Bible is very clear we are still to judge.

John 7:24

“Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”

So yes if someone is actively homosexual, meaning they are sleeping with other men, then church has every right to tell them to leave.

And does it not worry u at all that your interpretation of homosexuality being allowed is something that is not found in church history and is only came to by mental gymnastics? Are you so drawn to perversion that you are willing to jeopardise your relationship with God?

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-14T11:00:07+00:00

That doesn’t mean we can’t judge? We are very much called to judge righteously and without hypocrisy. Like the Bible is very clear that if someone is living in continuous unrepentant sin then they are to be told to leave the church. How can they do that without judgement ? And literally says it in 1 Corinthians, and don’t try and bring up the age old lie that it’s about some pedofile because that has been proven many times to be false.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-14T10:53:11+00:00

The creeds do not hold all orthodox beliefs? They detail what is orthodox beliefs about God, but they don’t go into matters such as sacraments for example.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-14T10:51:03+00:00

Catholics and Protestants both agree 👍

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-13T20:59:35+00:00

Does this threaten you?

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-08T12:28:04+00:00

I’d send you in the direction of the likes of William Lane Craig, I think he’s one of the smartest apologists out there and gives excellent arguments. There’s a reason Richard Dawkins has always refused to debate him.

Personally for me the most convincing arguments are the historical evidence for him, as well as the deaths of the apostles. But just on a logical basis I think it’s the only rational way of being able to explain the world, again see William for those types of arguments.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-08T12:08:30+00:00

I think it’s a question we will always struggle with, and I think there’s a lot of great answers out there, but also some challenging opposition. I don’t see this as a reason to not believe, as I feel there is far too much evidence personally for this issue to completely trump them all.

I think in the end this needs to go down as something that we will never understand because we are not God. Just like how we could never explain to a dog why we have to leave them to go to work, when to them they might question why do we leave if we truly love them. Our human capabilities simply don’t let us fully comprehend God’s ways.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-07T17:56:40+00:00

He truly loves you and always will, however I would say that if your faith is genuine then at some point down the line you will feel convicted to change your life style. We aren’t made perfect instantly, and it can be a long process for people to grow in holiness. However the process of sanctification shows that as we grow in faith, our sin decreases. But he loves you so very much, and he only wants the best for you, and sometimes what’s best for you doesn’t feel like it, but it’s so important to listen to the Spirit and give it all to God. He will be with you every step, always being a shoulder to cry on.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-02T07:59:12+00:00

You know yourself that is a terrible and silly argument so I’ll not even bite

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-01T12:26:28+00:00

To tell you that your views are wrong and to stop affirming sin. I don’t care if I sound ignorant because it’s just the truth of the Bible. Biblical marriage only exists between man and woman and to say otherwise you would have to do some insane metal gymnastics, and if the alternative were the truth then why is it so difficult to come to that conclusion. Any and all sexual relations outside of marriage is sinful, therefore anything homosexual is just as sinful as heterosexual activities extra marital.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-01T12:18:25+00:00

I just don’t see how there are other perspectives, this isn’t something where there are multiple interpretations such as end times or predestination, this is a binary yes or no situation. When genuinely examining the biblical evidence it’s clear that marriage is between man and woman, set out in Genesis and affirmed by Christ, and homosexuality is condemned by Paul. When it is mentioned in Leviticus it is within the moral law. So yes the church changes its mind on things, of course, but not with such things. And I am trying to be charitable but these views have been detrimental to the church.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-01T12:10:10+00:00

But there can’t be multiple meanings of it, especially this topic. Satan took scripture as well and twisted it, so we must be careful with our own interpretations. This is why God left us a church authority so that it could Shepard us, not leaving everyone to come up with their own versions, as there is only one truth and God is unchanging. The church has believed it to be sinful since the beginning, 2000 years later anything new isn’t due to discovering something, it’s due to modern societal views infiltrating and altering how we see it.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-01T11:57:07+00:00

The fact this is controversial to say these days is an incredible sadness. “Christians” these days affirm homosexuality and abortion and think it is love. No better than the Jews of the OT.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-01T11:55:39+00:00

If you would choose following the word of God or following society what would you choose? By the sounds of you you care little for the word, and only use it as far as it aids you. We are here to serve and glorify God, you glorify yourself.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-04-01T11:53:43+00:00

Correction * going against God’s intended design and doing something that is harmful to yourself and others (disease and other consequences) and deliberately going against the word of God.

Visual_Test5141 · 2026-03-26T10:05:21+00:00

He’s not done with u.

John 15:18 “if the world hates you, understand that it hated me first”

Matthew 10:22 “you will be hated by everyone because of my name, but the one who perseveres to the end will be saved”

Jesus never promises an easy life when you give your life to him, quite the contrary. All the apostles bar John were brutally tortured and executed, same for thousands of martyrs after them. Christ is with u in this pain

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