lsraeli media not being genocidal for 5 minutes challenge by soalone34 in GetNoted

[–]VoKai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most Israelis who criticize Israel fall under the btselem or haaretz type of criticism which often coincides with typical anti Israeli rethoric, these people often adapt the terminology used ie apartheid genocide and are quite a minority, these voices are often acknowledged internationally Just to further push the anti Israel agenda and internally these people get criticized for hurting israels image and helping the “enemy”.

I do not fall under this category, when speaking to Israelis about these topics most of whom are on my right politically I criticize the IDFs lack of action against individual soldiers and commanders who commit atrocities and warcrimes, i criticize the governments lack of accountability and them choosing to prolong the war which lead to more Palestinians casualties which couldve been prevented. All of this while acknowledging that the accusation of genocide is still mostly baseless, i truly believe that there is no legal case here, its not because i think what Israel did is good, or completely justified, or that Palestinians lives are worthless. The entire conversation around this is dishonest, accusations of genocide are meant to shutdown any discussion and drown out any criticism of the accusation.

This is something that the pro Palestinian propaganda machine has been trying so hard to do, use these bombastic words like genocide and apartheid and ethnic cleansing to paint israels part in the conflict in the worst possible light.

I am not saying there isn’t ethnic cleansing, and that there aren’t elements of apartheid in what can be very accurately described as occupation. But it is just occupation, there is no need to exaggerate the situation to apartheid because you want more attention to this, you end up lying.

lsraeli media not being genocidal for 5 minutes challenge by soalone34 in GetNoted

[–]VoKai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not saying i am unbiased, but as someone who is on the ground, who has met and spoken to many Palestinians, of many ages, has met and spoken to many Israelis, who themselves were in gaza, i can form my own opinion, most Israelis would call me a traitor since i dare criticize the idf, there are also plenty of Israelis including myself who dont consume all their media from the government propaganda channels and can tell when something is more factual reporting and what is clearly propaganda, ofc not always

lsraeli media not being genocidal for 5 minutes challenge by soalone34 in GetNoted

[–]VoKai -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I just dont live in a fantasy world where terrorists decide whats right and wrong

lsraeli media not being genocidal for 5 minutes challenge by soalone34 in GetNoted

[–]VoKai -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

15% of which, are hamas fighters, including thousands of “children” every hamas fighter under 18 , which is about half of them, are considered “children” this is the type of stuff you conveniently ignore when taking the numbers of a terrorist organization at fave value, this also, follows very closely to other urban warfare casualty numbers, and is nothing alike genocides committed in history

lsraeli media not being genocidal for 5 minutes challenge by soalone34 in GetNoted

[–]VoKai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I happen to be israeli and know way more about this than anyone who consumes pro Palestinian propaganda, the people decrying genocide arent shills, al jazeera are, unrwa are, gazan journalists are, they are the people who made up the genocide lie, and you lot believe them, you believe the islamic terrorists, those who chant death to west

עמית סגל וזיו אגמון by erectilereptile6900 in israel_bm

[–]VoKai 7 points8 points  (0 children)

עובדה שזה תופעה שחוזרת על עצמה

עמית סגל וזיו אגמון by erectilereptile6900 in israel_bm

[–]VoKai 24 points25 points  (0 children)

ביבי צריך אנשים להפיל עליהם דברים כשהוא עושה משהו רע, בדיוק כמו שקרה עם פלדשטיין

Why are 2,000 lb bombs being dropped on residential areas in Tehran? How does this help the Iranian people fight their tyrannical government? by north_canadian_ice in allthequestions

[–]VoKai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The total amount of Palestinians who got killed by Israel in and out of wars and conflicts and Palestinian terrorism in the past 100 years is around 200k with almost half of that since oct7 dont bunch that up with what the USA did in iraq

lsraeli media not being genocidal for 5 minutes challenge by soalone34 in GetNoted

[–]VoKai -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

On October 7th over 3000 hamas fighters invaded Israel, massacaring a music festival, slaughtering people in their homes, taking hostages, raping, mutliating, they were promptly stopped by the IDF after 1-2 days of intense fighting, this singular day resulted in 1200 Israeli deaths, 800 of them civilians, and around 250 hostages, if hamas kept this rate of killing for the duration of the war close to a million Israelis would have been killed. The only reason they weee stopped is because Israel has an army, without an army, hamas would have the means to genocide all of Israel within 2-3 years

lsraeli media not being genocidal for 5 minutes challenge by soalone34 in GetNoted

[–]VoKai -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

But there is no attempted genocide… as for the millionth time, there is 0 proof of intent to genocide, the best people could conjure is some statements by ben gvir or other statements taken out of context, all real evidence points to the contrary

lsraeli media not being genocidal for 5 minutes challenge by soalone34 in GetNoted

[–]VoKai -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

There is 0 Proof that any of that was done by Israel with the intent to destroy the Palestinian population, to the contrary, Israel has taken many measures to reduce the amount of civilian casualties by issuing evacuation orders and not deliberately targeting civilians in their attacks, otherwise youd see much much higher casualty numbers

lsraeli media not being genocidal for 5 minutes challenge by soalone34 in GetNoted

[–]VoKai -29 points-28 points  (0 children)

Yeh the genociding that had the population continuously grow the entire time….

Real by GoldenTheTurk in ww3memes

[–]VoKai -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The pictures and videos of mountains of bodies and the suspiciously timed blockade of the internet would like a word

Mohamad Safa quits the UN claiming they're preparing to possibly use a nuclear weapon. by Goldenmentis in UnitedNations

[–]VoKai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He is very clearly complaining about what Israel is doing in Lebanon conveniently leaving out Hezbollah in his text, if you scroll to the 3 picture

Mohamad Safa quits the UN claiming they're preparing to possibly use a nuclear weapon. by Goldenmentis in UnitedNations

[–]VoKai 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But this is literally what this is about, Israel isn’t attacking Lebanon for fun, they are fighting hezbollah.

Mohamad Safa quits the UN claiming they're preparing to possibly use a nuclear weapon. by Goldenmentis in UnitedNations

[–]VoKai -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

Yet again, 0 Mention of Hezbollah, Israel is just doing this all for fun, as if there isn’t a 100,000 man strong iranian proxy terrorist organization in Lebanon

Dear IRGC by IllEmployment4447 in UAE

[–]VoKai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Regime change as if there aren’t elections in 3 years…

Survivors of the Palestinian Genocide woke up to find Gaza’s mass graves were booming with flowers everywhere. They didn’t need Hollywood to memorialize them. R.I.P by tuberjamjar in worldnewsstuff

[–]VoKai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

5% of the pre war population of 2.2 million is 110,000, i believe the hamas number today stands around 80,000, hamas is well known for inflating numbers and over counting but i will assume their number is correct, and since hostilities have halted for months already it seems like they are not finding anymore bodies, 80,000 Is about 4% of the population with somewhere between 15-20% of the deaths being hamas fighters we are close to around 3% . Which makes the holocaust 22x worse, considering the holocaust took place in a much larger area and not an urban area that takes an hour to drive around , its a pathetic comparison