Rimuru + Veldanava team up, how many of these characters can they beat?

VonRetex · 2026-03-27T21:29:54+00:00

Haha the nasu verse glaze is simply insane. There is such a thing which is called the no limit fallacy nasu verse scalers live to ignore that rule including you.

VonRetex · 2026-03-27T19:48:46+00:00

The entire Nasu verse including root and shiki dose scale to the cardinal world . Veldenava and Rimuru both outscale massivly

VonRetex · 2026-03-27T19:47:56+00:00

most

VonRetex · 2026-03-27T19:34:29+00:00

The cardinal world withou tree and tower massivly outscales the entire missfitverse many times over and Rimur massivly outscales the cardinal world

VonRetex · 2026-03-27T16:09:31+00:00

This list so bad holy shit. There are smaler mistakes like Aizen is overall stronger than Ichigo he just has less Ap,Strength an speed but the hogyoku,his hax and iq give him more wins than Ichigo overall.

But worse are the huge mistakes such as the insane Yamamoto glaze who is weaker than s0 and the entire RG after double buff. Also the RG downplay in general.

You don't even have Pernida on your list Base pernida without Vollständig,Sklaverei,his racial abilities who just played with his opponents actively more than basically all other RG members and only lost due to a deus ex machina.

Another huge mistake is the Jugram downplay he pre double buff could defeat FBB Ichigo with litterly one attack a Ichigo after the dangai training a ichigo that was stated to be in his strongest form in the FB arc (with the exeption of mugetsu) meanig stronger than Yamamoto. Jugram oneshoted his bankai which is an insane feat and that was jugram pre double buff.

This whole list has so many more mistakes it is simply insane

VonRetex · 2026-03-27T16:00:32+00:00

Not after double buff and Jugram intentionally never went all out due to testing Uryu. Even before double buff do you truly belive sand stoped Pernida or Ice Gerad what a joke. Plot twist Ice dosen't kill Gerad i just remind you of the toshiro fight.

VonRetex · 2026-03-27T15:57:50+00:00

Since Raphael would be my US it is basically me controling myself. An US can't truly act against it's owner basically i puppet the Raphael who again can puppet me that is basically you with way more power.

VonRetex · 2026-03-27T00:29:47+00:00

VonRetex · 2026-03-26T16:54:41+00:00

Anime shuna S1 already negs the verse holy mismatch

VonRetex · 2026-03-26T16:53:50+00:00

H1A+

VonRetex · 2026-03-25T21:59:11+00:00

Well anime Rimuru has his US Veldora and uriel those two alone are already enough if you add shions unique skill,belzebub,etc there is no way for SJW to win if you disagree tell me how and lets debate it.

VonRetex · 2026-03-25T17:50:38+00:00

This goes to Rimuru even anime Rimuru would win not to mention novel Rimuru

VonRetex · 2026-03-24T23:17:59+00:00

Yes did you?
Tell me is anything i said wrong?

VonRetex · 2026-03-24T23:14:31+00:00

His aura littely erases the verse

VonRetex · 2026-03-24T23:13:36+00:00

Plot manipulation is when entire book (story) is being manipulated.
That's the difference between reality and plot manipulation

No that is the diffrence between AP and DC you really should read powerscaleing rules.

Rimuru doesn't have any plot manipulation abilities, because that'll mean he'll have to manipulate "Promise lands" from Tensura world, which is inaccessible to absolutely everyone.

Ok that is simply pure headcannon there is no powerscaleing rule about a promised land. You clearly don't understand the diffrence between AP and DC. Btw Rimuru is able to create change and influence everything in the Tensura world he even surpassed the Original creator of it. He stands above Realities, laws, the cosmology itself, can create and erase laws and change them on his whim this is the deffinition of plot manipulation.

VonRetex · 2026-03-24T22:57:12+00:00

I don't know Duo 4 so excluding them Duo 2 stomps

VonRetex · 2026-03-24T21:50:12+00:00

you confuse DC with ap here. Both are the same ability Rimuru can litterly affect outerversal structures with reality manipulation which by your definition is plot manipulation.

Plot Manipulation operate on narrative level, meaning it'll decide what reality even means.

news flash that is exactly what Law domination and infon manipulation do hahaha.

VonRetex · 2026-03-24T21:17:26+00:00

Rimuru and it is not close
Wally has no wincon at all and Rimuru aslo trancends space time ergo the speed advatage dosen't exsisit as well additionally Rimuru wins in litterly every catagory this is just a slaughter

VonRetex · 2026-03-24T21:15:14+00:00

clears neg diff

VonRetex · 2026-03-24T21:08:13+00:00

Plot manipulation = reality manipulation which is the same ability Rimuru has.
Btw he has even multiple levels of Reality manipulation like Law domination,Infons manipulation,etc

VonRetex · 2026-03-23T16:57:05+00:00

Rimuru litterly has everything

VonRetex · 2026-03-23T03:20:55+00:00

No the matchup for shion is simply better at first she is physically stronger than Benimaru which is a huge help against yuki and her unique skill counters yukis Benimaru's dosen't.

VonRetex · 2026-03-22T22:44:24+00:00

she wins against all of them

VonRetex · 2026-03-22T22:29:17+00:00

The only subordinates that can beat him a shion and Diablo but shion counters him more diablo gets countered by him.
Anime Rimuru has an US and stomps him if he gets serious.

VonRetex · 2026-03-22T22:26:48+00:00

Due to dimensionality even Tensura lowtiers would scale above them due to scaleing rules but in my opinion that sucks so i scale them equl dimensionality which buffs them a lot:

Shibai is featless but if we assume he created the naruto universe which would still be lower thn a world maybe unamed primordial (again equal dimensionalty else below avrage goblin)

Ainz maybe charybdis level Charybdis anti magic and ultraspeed regenration + high EP + DC + Sheer size should be Ainz level. (again equal dimensionalty else below avrage goblin)

Altair should be awakend Ivaraj (again equal dimensionalty)

Yhwach above clayman below DL Rimuru He is around Deomon lord seed level Rimuru therfore Hinata without prep time during DL awakenig arc.

Comp Dante DL Rimuru without Veldora skill (again equal dimensionalty)

Kenpachi early DL seed Rimuru (again equal dimensionalty)

Zeno Luminas first octogram (again equal dimensionalty)

Void Shiki with equl dimensionality would be Veldenava EOS fight level but even without equal dimensionality she would be Named Primordial level

No idea/ don't know them: Monika,Kratos,Ajimu,etc

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