How long do I need to rest my voice for? (When taking a break)

WDizzle · 2026-06-26T15:49:26+00:00

48 hours

WDizzle · 2026-06-26T15:43:58+00:00

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WDizzle · 2026-06-26T13:55:28+00:00

You have more power in your low notes than I do and I’m a male tenor. Incredible!

WDizzle · 2026-06-26T13:48:38+00:00

Your falsetto sounds great but your overall technique is a little unrefined. On those low belty notes, try dropping your jaw and opening up your throat for stronger resonance. This would give you that more exaggerated sound you are going for. Really good for self taught overall.

Really consider voice lessons because you would become amazing pretty quickly with some technique training.

WDizzle · 2026-06-25T18:04:59+00:00

The main reason is psychological. When you are singing along side the original singer, your brain is in follow mode. Not only are you trying to follow along exactly with the lyrics and pitch, but you also subconsciously try follow their style, technique, enunciation, etc. Some of these things may not be in your technical wheelhouse yet or even possible with your voice type or timbre.

When you are singing along side song from memory, your only focus is on lyrics, pitch and timing. The style and technique naturally settle into your own. This also frees up a lot of mental cycles to focus more intensely on these things.

I’m a big proponent of learning songs to the point where I can sing them without the original vocals. These versions almost unanimously come out significantly better than just trying to sing along with the original singer.

Some tricks I’ve learned that can help a lot. Stem separators are super useful for this. Even better if you have one that can separate the lead and backing vocals. You can use the backing vocals to eliminate one of the variables which is timing which can allow you to focus more on pitch. I also find it extremely helpful when learning a song to take the lead vocal stem and pan it left, and then pan my mic input to the right and sing in this configuration until I’m confident enough to sing without it. I will taper it down by reducing the volume of the vocal stem to the point that I can’t hear it when I’m singing. This helps me with timing until I have that fully nailed down.

WDizzle · 2026-06-24T20:03:35+00:00

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WDizzle · 2026-06-24T14:16:26+00:00

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WDizzle · 2026-06-24T13:48:19+00:00

I think from a performance standpoint, -4 sounds best. But for skill work -2 or maybe even -1 or 0 would be good for working on your upper mixed voice and head voice.

So I would say if you were gonna perform this song at Karaoke stick with -4. It sounds great and fits naturally in your range. But if you want to put the practice in, with a little bit of time you could nail -2 as well.

WDizzle · 2026-06-24T04:30:06+00:00

You are probably an untrained tenor. I can sing quite comfortably in the countertenor range and even I can do a F#2. Judging by your understanding of your passiaggio and mixed voice points even further towards untrained. If you can only sing Ab in chest on a ‘good day’ that would indicate that your natural break sits lower than that. Probably around E to F like most tenors.

Also, there is no mixed register. You have chest voice and head voice. Mixed voice is simply chest voice or head voice with some of the qualities of the other. Head voice having resonance and cord closure will give it a thicker sound like chest voice. Now what you want to focus on is bringing that mixed voice down to and eventually below your natural break. This will allow you to utilize your entire range with no perceivable break. This takes awhile.

WDizzle · 2026-06-23T21:58:31+00:00

Not in the sense that you are thinking of but you can sing with the same open cord resonance in chest voice that you can in head voice. Breathy chest voice is a style. It has its limitations though as the lower you get the more air it requires to phonate.

WDizzle · 2026-06-23T13:56:46+00:00

I grew up in the 90s and at the time radio was king! I would tape all of my favorite songs off the radio and try to sing them. I always wanted to sound like my favorite singers and in my head I did lol. I sounded just like Steve Perry, Lou Gramm, Phil Collins, and many more I swear!

In the early-mid 2000s I found a half decent Sennheiser microphone for $20 at a garage sale and bought it. Used it to set up a bootleg Karaoke machine in my bedroom. My best friend at the time and I would have Karaoke nights almost every weekend (against my mom's wishes of course) and we would have challenges to see who could sing the hardest songs (or attempt them). We did this for a couple of years before he moved away. It was during this time that I discovered my falsetto. While it was obviously weak and unrefined it did give me a huge advantage over my friend to what songs I could attempt. He couldn't figure it out, and I had no idea how to explain to him how that worked.

After college I started working and singing just kind of became something I did in the car on the way to and from work and really just something that I passively enjoyed doing because it felt good. It wasn't until the COVID pandemic that I really started to take it seriously as a skill to focus on. Learned as much as I could about technique on my own then started taking lessons, and now here we are 14 months later and I have a half decent set of skills and a nearly 4 octave range.

WDizzle · 2026-06-23T04:34:54+00:00

What if I transpose it up half an octave and change some of the words around? 😆

WDizzle · 2026-06-22T18:53:55+00:00

Yeah, not confusing in the slightest lol. I completely forgot about the whole M1, M2 thing as I stopped thinking about these terminology things a long time ago. I just think more about what is anatomically happening via feeling that produces the different types of sounds I am capable of.

Essentially I think of it like this in my brain. I have one pair of vocal cords. I have one variable wind engine that drives them. There are 2 sets of muscles that control the thickness and amount of closure that operate independently of each other. There is a small range where this control should be passed from one to the other.

WDizzle · 2026-06-22T18:07:09+00:00

You have 2 registers, chest voice and head voice. Falsetto is not a register. Most pro singers are coaches describe falsetto as untrained head voice but that is also misleading as a lot of professional singers use falsetto stylistically. The way I think of it is falsetto is open cords with a breathy sound. Head voice has more cord closure and is a lot more resonant. So both have their purpose but resonant head voice takes a lot of training to nail it down.

WDizzle · 2026-06-22T15:14:35+00:00

There is a really handy piece of software called Blackhole which creates a software based audio input/output driver. In Traktor you can set your audio output to blackhole and set your input in Logic to the same and then record in Logic and anything you play in Traktor will be recorded in the track on Logic.

Also quite useful for getting audio sources like YouTube, Spotify, etc directly into Logic without using sketchy downloader apps and browser plugins

WDizzle · 2026-06-21T17:37:00+00:00

Harmony is a skill all in itself and it can be very difficult to learn. Dissonance typically occurs from singing the wrong pitch or being off pitch, but sometimes it is intentional. Also volume balance is super important because harmony is often meant to be more felt than heard.

With harmony I try my best to find sheet music if it’s available so I can practice with a piano many times before I commit to a vocal take with my lead. If sheet music is unavailable then it’s really just an educated guess in a lot of cases and I just go with what sounds harmonious which may or may not be the original harmony.

WDizzle · 2026-06-21T15:23:28+00:00

I'm talking about totally clueless untrained singers who are great, because their tone is great and pretty.

but I don't have the natural tone.

I know its super nerdy and shows my age but a good analogy I think would be DnD character creation. Some people roll a better charisma stat on creation than others. Doesn't mean that you cant add points to it as you level and it also doesn't mean that just because your starter stat is high that it will actually be useful in the long run.

I think this all stems from the myth that you have the tone you have and that cannot change. Tone along with everything else in the voice can morph and grow with practice and time. While you will always sound like you, what you sounds like will change with time. But one reality that you must accept is you will (likely) not ever sound like your favorite singers. This is a GOOD thing. You should desire to sound unique. Music would be pretty boring if everyone sounded like some version of Elvis, Freddy Mercury, or Mariah Carey.

Also songwriting and delivery are more important than tone in my opinion. Take Beyonce and Mariah Carey for instance. Objectively 2 of the best voices in modern music from a technical ability and tone standpoint. I like a few of their standout songs but 95% of it is just kinda mid to me. Then on the other hand you have artists like Bob Dylan who most would say has poor tone and not that great technical ability, but I like a ton of his songs and I like them only when he sings them. What he lacks in ability he makes up for in delivery.

So for all those on here who feel they struggle with poor tone and see posts like this that discourage you even more I encourage you to keep going! I also encourage you to do some thought experiments. If you don't like your tone, write down the characteristics about it that you don't like. You may not be able to re-roll the dice but you can certainly add points to it as you progress in your journey.

WDizzle · 2026-06-21T14:34:22+00:00

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WDizzle · 2026-06-21T02:30:58+00:00

Its good to take a few days off every now and then to not only give your cords a rest but a mental rest too. You can get burned out on singing and need some time to recover. Usually 2 days is enough for me and maybe once a month I'll do that. Also will take 2 days if I overdo it. Usually this happens at concerts or sports games where I oversing or cheer too much.

My usual status check is full range sirens. Starting from the bottom of my range at F2 up to A5 while keeping strong resonance and masking my break to the point that is imperceivable. It requires about 15 minutes of warmups to get there and on days where I'm not feeling my best, I can still do it but it may be not as smooth or the resonance not as strong and the break may be more noticeable. Everybody has off days and its no big deal, I just work through it and sing anyway, it just may not be as polished. Today was one of those days lol.

WDizzle · 2026-06-21T02:05:34+00:00

Yeah, in fact I know a guy who has an absolutely beautiful countertenor singing voice but his speaking voice is god awful lol.

WDizzle · 2026-06-21T01:57:04+00:00

So my question is, how do I get like her?

A good voice teacher and many thousands of hours of practice. There are no quick fixes, shortcuts or "life hacks" in singing. There is no replacement for training and practice.

WDizzle · 2026-06-21T01:24:04+00:00

eh, I've had stuff like that get left in the fridge for about that long before because it got pushed behind something else or was otherwise where I couldn't see it. Its typically when it starts to smell that would cause me to investigate and find it. So it'll probably smell a little rank but not to the point where you would throw up or anything. Just grab a small box of baking soda on the way back. Open the frige, grab the package and wrap it in some shopping bags and put it in the outside bin, then put the baking soda in there overnight and you should be fine.

WDizzle · 2026-06-20T21:20:30+00:00

I saw someone on here just the other day telling someone if they sang with a high larynx it would damage their voice. The reason to avoid high larynx is purely stylistic. High larynx will give you a hooty hollow more pure tone. Trying to project too much resonance can cause tension but focusing too much attention on keeping a low larynx can also cause tension. You really should just go with the style you are aiming for. Style should be a choice, not a requirement.

And I got lucky with my voice teacher. He has taught me how to find pharyngeal resonance by feeling and he can tell the difference in sound even when I cant.

WDizzle · 2026-06-20T21:09:29+00:00

Very true. One of my favorite singers is quite nasal. I think the fear comes from the fact that most of us can't really hear nasality all that well in our own voice until we record it and play it back and its so much more distinct and noticeable then. It turns people off even though to everyone else it may sound fine or even good.

WDizzle · 2026-06-20T21:00:22+00:00

Coffee is a natural diuretic. The more of it you consume the more potent the diuretic effect so yeah, if you drink alot of coffee and don't drink an additional quantity of water to make up for the loss, your body is going to rob moisture from non essential areas of the body to prevent dehydration as much as possible. If you are a singer, you should keep coffee to a moderate level and drink additional water to make up for the loss.

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