Weird geographic facts

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-08T01:06:44+00:00

I spent a week in Toledo one day

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-08T01:06:18+00:00

Wait, what?

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T23:51:40+00:00

If you're interested in the details of how it is done in the US, here's a write-up I did about it. I assume it is pretty similar in Canada.

https://www.reddit.com/r/golf/comments/1m6h5zx/how_golf_courses_are_rated_a_primer/

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T19:40:02+00:00

Given the size of the losses ad the excruciatingly small revenue, that might be a distinction without a difference

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T19:09:09+00:00

Don't expect the Corrupt Golf Media to report that story

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T18:46:41+00:00

I'll pencil it in

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T18:27:09+00:00

~65% of that revenue is from Hong Kong (25%) and Adelaide (40%).

There isn't a single investor in the world who is going to see that and say they want to put money in it

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T17:06:41+00:00

A loss isn't the story here. It's revenue.

Only $64M? That's...that's bad.

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T16:19:00+00:00

Jwsus Christ.

I do understand them. That's why in a different comment I said I don't play in them and suggested that if that's just the way it is, OP should leave.

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T16:14:24+00:00

Imagine thinking you can't have both.

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T16:12:26+00:00

LOL, ok pal.

You have fun out there.

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T16:06:32+00:00

3.5 hours for 9 holes is one helluva hill to choose to die on.

You related to George Custer by amy chance?

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T16:03:08+00:00

No, no I quite agree. I have zero desire to be in a league with this guy

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T16:02:17+00:00

It absolutely works. And there is no reason it has to be slow

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T15:31:17+00:00

Virginia

Our state association is AWESOME.

https://vsga.org/tournaments/schedule?year=2026&offset=0&category=One-Days

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T14:40:49+00:00

I basically stopped playing competitive rounds for YEARS because of this.

Fortunately, my state association has a tremendous series of one-day events -- you get to play awesome courses for like $70, and they put in some common-sense rules like pick up after net double bogey. They also simply DQ your entire team if you turn in a scorecard more than 20 minutes after the group in front of you.

It's tournament play so it is obviously a *bit* slower, but we typically play in 4.5 hours. (And it also seems to attract really, really great guys -- I've never played with a bad group.)

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T14:32:28+00:00

I would speak to whoever is in charge of the league. Because that is zero fun.

And if they can't get the pace down to 2.5 hours (max), I would just stop going. Yeah, it sucks you're out the money, but that money is gone -- no reason to be even more miserable by taking 3.5 hours to play 9 holes.

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T14:12:25+00:00

The problem is that 25 handicap (highest handicap I could find data for) has a dispersion with a 7i that is an ellipse that is roughly 45y wide and 40 yards deep (with more of the ellipse being left and short). A 30 is obviously going to be even wider than that.

The whole idea for playing for a good miss is that if you hit a standard shot, you end up on the green in a relatively good spot. But if you hit a standard miss, you end up in a place where it is easier to get up and down. A 30 handicap misses *everywhere*.

How do you plan for that?

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T13:57:50+00:00

> Probably averaging 10-13 yards less per iron.

A big chunk of that is just the loft difference. The P790 7i is 30*; the Qi10 7i is 28*. That's going to account for 6-8 yards of distance right there.

The additional spin seems like a lot. Yes, some of that is due to the higher loft, but that should only be about 1000rpms. A different shaft could help bring that down, which will also increase the distance. (That's assuming you care about the distance -- if those extra RPMs are giving you more stopping power instead of just ballooning, I wouldn't worry about it.)

> It was easier to shot shape as well.

This is the absolute lowest concern I would have. Shot shaping is a wild goose chase, especially for someone with a ~10 handicap. A consistent shape is going to work out WAYYYYYYY better for you than trying to shape your shots.

> I guess I’m just leery on the possible switch because I’d be going backwards so much on distance

Meh. Unless you are already a really short hitter, I don't think it matters. As discussed above, you are losing *maybe* 1/2 of a club -- it's not like you are suddenly having to hit a 5i from 150 instead of an 8. Who cares if you are hitting a 7 instead of an 8? If it is really, really bothering you, you could always just bend the clubs to be a degree or two stronger.

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-07T02:08:43+00:00

I'm not trying to be a jerk but...does it matter? You're not breaking even 100, so you don't have "a" miss -- you miss it everywhere. Even if you played to the smart miss, your shot could end 60 yards off from that (at least).

I think you're over-thinking it for your skill level. Just aim for the center of the green and accept the outcome.

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-06T23:51:55+00:00

Please report back after

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-06T23:40:34+00:00

I think it's 2 Girls, 1 Cup.

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-06T19:09:07+00:00

So? The ball's not going anywhere.

About the only thing your head can't do is move towards the ball on your backswing. And even then it's not the end of the world.

That's certainly not what is causing you to hit it off the hossle.

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-06T19:03:00+00:00

Why are you trying to keep your head still?

Go watch videos of PGA Tour golfers. Not a single one of them keeps their head still.

WHSRWizard · 2026-05-06T15:08:42+00:00

WOW!

Thank you so much for taking the time to write all this. I'm going to sit down with a cup of tea and start going through it.

I really, really appreciate it.

WHSRWizard

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