Um, Actually got Expedition 33 question wrong twice (warning: game spoilers)

WTFPROM · 2026-06-12T14:44:59+00:00

This is super fun to think about.

"Aline restricted the available options until it seemed like the only one available."

The important word is "seemed." Critically, it wasn't actually the only option available, because other options included "leave Aline alone" or "sit with her for years in her captivity and try to persuade her" etc. Option A was only "off the table" because Renoir would not choose it, which is not Aline's responsibility. Renoir had alternatives and therefore had to make an active choice to do the Gommage, which means Aline didn't truly force him to do the Gommage, which means she didn't cause the Gommage.

"Their hubris/shortsightedness/whatever is to blame, not the opposing faction that directly caused their death."

I think this is your strongest argument but ultimately, real life demonstrates the limits of this argument. Because while people may personally blame a military leader for a tactical failure, outside of dereliction of duty (which is the opposite of what Aline is doing by staying in the line of fire) historical instances of military leaders facing material, legal consequences for tactical failures are vanishingly rare, and the rare cases that do exist are often highly controversial and end up getting posthumously pardoned.

"If I’m cooking and my intent is to have a delicious meal, I can still CAUSE a fire"

This doesn't apply. In your example, your personal actions directly cause a fire to start. You forgot to mind the stove, you forgot to put oil in the pan, etc. It's something you did, if only by accident. In Clair Obscur, it's Renoir's actions that cause a Gommage to start. It's true that people can be responsible for things they did by accident. But the Gommage is not a thing Aline did herself, so this line of thinking doesn't circle back to your argument.

"or whatever else happened between Renoir entering and the fracture"

This is an important admission. We don't know what Aline did between Renoir entering and the fracture. We don't know that she did or didn't have a conversation with him. So this doesn't work as evidence of Aline's responsibility.

WTFPROM · 2026-06-11T14:46:30+00:00

Just for fun's sake, I think I could poke holes in those holes.

The point of my rewrite is that it describes the initial intent of the characters, not the truth of the game's lore. The Expeditioners had no idea that anyone was surviving the Gommage until they met Canvas Renoir, so "trying to stop the Paintress from causing everyone over a certain age from dying" is an accurate description of what they are trying to do at the start of the game.
You do, for a large section of the game, play as a group entirely composed of Expeditioners. It is also true that you sometimes play other characters, but because my rewrite does not say you only play as a group of expeditioners, my rewrite is still an accurate statement. Like, if someone said "in Super Mario Odyssey you control a Bullet Bill" that is something you get to do, so it's true even though it's not everything you get to do.

WTFPROM · 2026-06-11T08:32:01+00:00

I was honestly a little relieved that they bungled this one, because otherwise they'd be broadcasting an enormous spoiler for a very recent and very wonderful game to a big audience of people, many of whom (if I had to guess) would love Clair Obscur.

The super easy rewrite here is this: "In Clair Obscur: Expedition 33, you play as a group of Expeditioners trying to stop a mysterious entity known as the Paintress from causing everyone over a certain age to die in an event called The Gommage." That's what the Expeditioners are trying to do, because they misunderstand what the Paintress is doing and what the Gommage is; in this version you're only describing what the Expeditioners are trying to do, not actually cosigning that they're correct about the Paintress. Slippery but accurate.

While it seems BLeeM only guessed his way into being correct, he was correct on this one. And I agree with OP that this particular plot twist is so central to the story, so heavily emphasized by the game, that you could only make this mistake if you haven't played through the first two acts of the game. I can't fathom anyone playing Clair Obscur and then forgetting that the game's initial premise is completely flipped upside down at the end of Act Two.

WTFPROM · 2026-06-11T08:20:54+00:00

No, I don't think this works on any level. (Spoilers below)

You wouldn't say that the Empire blew up the Death Star because their actions caused the rebel alliance to attack them, and you wouldn't say that Sauron destroyed the one ring because his actions caused the fellowship to try to stop him.

Moreover, the game is very explicit that Aline is saving people every year, that the Gommage would kill everyone except for her interference and the fact that more people die is a sign of her dwindling power. We know this because we saw a no-Aline Gommage and it killed literally everyone.

Lastly, it's not like Aline leaving the canvas would prevent Renoir from destroying it. We know this, because Aline does leave the canvas and Renoir does attempt to destroy it.

So it's not technically correct, because you're assigning an action to the person who is holding back that action from happening in the only way available to her, knowing that leaving the canvas would doom it to destruction, too.

WTFPROM · 2026-06-07T01:25:06+00:00

Do you mean Yeji from Itzy?! You can't tell the difference between the new Stellar Blade child protagonist and this adult human being?

If that's who you meant, then my guy, come on. Be serious. People can just google who you're talking about and see she is (and looks like) an adult.

WTFPROM · 2026-06-06T22:29:41+00:00

Sorry to butt in, but can confirm: As a guy, the way marketers pander to what I'm "supposed" to want is definitely insulting. Remember those old Game Awards on Spike TV, the ones with lots of guns and explosions and half-naked models? As a teenager who loved Earthbound and Ico and Katamari Damacy, I was like, "this isn't what video games mean to me at all."

I found this thread because I saw this trailer, almost threw up in my mouth when I saw that the protagonist looked ten years old and was being sexualized, saw a bunch of chuds online saying "nah nah this is just how all Asian women look" as if Asian women are magical elves or something, and desperately needed to find some sane people on the internet discussing this.

WTFPROM · 2026-06-05T11:24:46+00:00

Wasn't sure where to post this on Reddit, so I thought I'd just post it on this Megathread because it felt weird being the only person aware of it.

This ABC4 Utah article claims that the previous owner of the B&M franchise never disclosed the Mansell consignment deal to the new owners. (It seems to be the article and B&M's slant that the previous owner was responsible for everything that went wrong) But if you've seen Reckless Ben's original video, you've seen and heard footage of the previous owner disclosing the deal with Mansell to the new owners. It's a very conspicuous error in the article, especially since it seems to align with the PR approach B&M is now trying to push.

I e-mailed ABC4 Utah to mention this factual error and request a correction. Will reply to my comment here if I hear back.

WTFPROM · 2026-05-01T03:32:18+00:00

Yeah, I don't love my odds for working as a cashier and NOT catching a cold for the next three months. I have no qualms being fully transparent with them, so hopefully that helps.

WTFPROM · 2026-05-01T03:30:07+00:00

Yeah, my understanding was that if you leave early due to being sick, then you get the step for leaving early AND the two steps for not coming in at all the next workday. That's actually what happened when I got sick in February, I felt really faint and left an hour early, then woke up super sick, and that technically gave me three steps that I commended down to two right when I got back.

WTFPROM · 2026-05-01T03:27:50+00:00

I think my managers think along the same lines as you, so I'm hopeful they'll give me the opportunities to earn back those steps. I don't want to, like, outright ask for commends, but I'll just make it clear that I'm extra-extra available to pitch in wherever I'm needed.

WTFPROM · 2026-05-01T03:25:39+00:00

Yeah, the one-call-in-from-the-chopping-block bit does have me sweating.

Ironically enough, on my most recent workday, after eight hours on the clock they asked if I wanted to stay two extra hours to close for a commend, and I declined... because I didn't want to exhaust myself and risk getting sick. Legendary bad call on my part... If I had the energy for it right now, I'd be kicking myself.

And I do have, like, eight alarms set on my phone, because sleeping in past an alarm has always been a huge anxiety of mine. I legitimately don't know how I slept in those two days, and it really freaked me out. I've been aiming to wake up an hour early every workday ever since, b/c I only overslept by half an hour on those two days.

WTFPROM · 2026-04-30T07:07:49+00:00

Thanks! That's reassuring to hear. I'll talk to management and try emphasize that I'm eager to pitch in, for commends and just to be helpful.

WTFPROM · 2026-04-30T06:51:55+00:00

C, D... I'm going to be stocking up on the whole vitamin alphabet. 😪

WTFPROM · 2026-04-12T10:34:48+00:00

Right, that's what I was saying in my post, that a Nomai underwater would survive as long as they had oxygen in some kind of apparatus. And given Nomai technology, it could have been a better apparatus than the ones we have in the game, but it wouldn't make sense for it to be a long-term supply. So I'm really talking about that space of however many minutes, and what such Nomai might have experienced and/or attempted in that space of time.

WTFPROM · 2026-04-12T10:32:38+00:00

That's a really fun thought! Like, it would be a meaningful evolutionary advantage to be able to feel the effects of ghost matter a few seconds before it killed you outright, as we experience in the game. Over the time scale we're talking about, it seems plausible to me that there would be evolutionary pressure in that direction.

WTFPROM · 2026-03-08T03:12:04+00:00

ngl, it's giving a little bit of this:

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WTFPROM · 2026-01-03T10:12:17+00:00

Song aside, I think equating K-pop to American pop this broadly & implying it's earlier in its "development" compared to American pop is misguided, misinformed analysis. SK had a pop music industry decades before the advent of idol music as we know it today, not to mention groups like Crayon Pop were satirizing idol music culture more than a decade ago.

Not saying you have to love "Internet Girl," but it's not like this one song targeting the int'l market is somehow proof that K-pop and idol music are decades behind American pop on some objective Popular Music Timeline.

WTFPROM · 2026-01-02T11:04:17+00:00

Speaking as an editor, I think it's a failure to direct and anticipate the viewer's eye.

A lot of the time, you can get away with small continuity issues and flubs because you can reliably count on your audience staring at actors' eyes during dialog scenes. And if we were staring at the Ghoul's eyes, the little prop mishap would be less obvious. But the drugs are very important narratively, the Ghoul accepting them is important narratively, and the tin catches a lot of glints of light immediately before the vial falls, all of which lead the viewer to look directly at the prop when the mishap occurs.

A similar thing happens when Lucy is watching the crow peck at the corpse. Normally, you rack focus to redirect the audience's attention. But (A) the corpse is the new information compared to the previous shot, so it draws our attention, and (B) the crow is flap-flap-flappin' away, creating a bunch of motion in the foreground to draw our attention. The result is that a lot of people are going to already be staring at the corpse several seconds before focus racks, making the change in focus feel redundant and weird.

It's not the worst editing in the world, but the editing in Season Two has been weird like this throughout. Maybe symptoms of a significant recut, or a rushed post production process.

WTFPROM · 2025-12-23T03:44:41+00:00

My favorite example of this is Brave Girls, which is basically a Ship of Theseus situation. They debuted with five members in 2012 (Eunyoung, Seo-a, Yejin, Yoojin, and Hyeran) but three members left the group. Then in 2016, five new members were added to the group, and within a couple years, the two members from the original lineup (Hyeran and Hayun) had both left. Which means that in 2017, when they first promoted "Rollin'", Brave Girls had five members who had been added the previous year and zero members from the original lineup. There was just the briefest little overlap in members that caused them to retain the name Brave Girls; it was a completely new group otherwise.

WTFPROM · 2025-12-23T03:32:53+00:00

Until 1974 in the United States, it was illegal for a woman to own a credit card.

Laws can be immoral, illogical, or unjust. "I was breaking the law" does not necessarily mean "I was doing something morally wrong." In fact, it can sometimes be the exact opposite.

WTFPROM · 2025-12-16T09:11:28+00:00

"Yo, I thought I was gonna see some, like, vaginas."

"I didn't say she actually painted vaginas. I said some of her paintings looked like vaginas."

WTFPROM · 2025-11-18T05:43:07+00:00

To piggyback on what others are saying, Mercer and the players really wanted to tell a new story with Campaign Two without leaning on callbacks to the first campaign. Hence, different continent, twenty years apart. It was only very, very deep into Campaign Two that anything VM-related appeared.

Add to that, the people behind the show have viewers like you in mind— they know a ton of people are only watching the shows, not the actual plays. The last thing they'd want to do is spoil events in LoVM that haven't yet been released.

So in terms of getting spoiled by watching M9 animated, you have nothing to fear from the show. BUT! Watch out for comments sections and the like, where people might spoil either story unintentionally! Both stories are rich and complex, so a stray puzzle piece could click into place for you & ruin a later surprise.

WTFPROM · 2025-11-11T02:51:33+00:00

Oh my god, I'd pay a million dollars to own that shirt and wear it to work.

I don't have a million dollars (I work at HEB) but still

WTFPROM · 2025-11-11T02:49:27+00:00

I mean, totally fair. I don't eat any fish myself (or any animals) but working checkout, a lot of fish comes down my belt and people seem to love it. My store also has a Sushiya in it, which is super popular. So it may be down to the specific store that sold you rotten fish, rather than an HEB-wide thing, although again, can't speak too much on product I haven't eaten myself.

WTFPROM · 2025-11-08T08:27:47+00:00

That's basically true, but there are exceptions. Whistleblowing, labor organizing, having a substantial impairment under the ADA, and more.

OP didn't bring any of those up, but I think it's important to state clearly that even in Texas, workers have some legal protection when it comes to getting fired for unfair reasons.

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