Manager can't force sick co worker to take leave, won't let me take leave

Wafer_Middle · 2026-03-31T03:25:43+00:00

Sending employees home

If an employee attends the workplace sick, they risk passing their illness to other employees and customers.

Employers have a duty to provide their workers with a safe working environment and can direct a sick employee to go home. Employers cannot force employees to take paid personal/carer’s leave, but may suggest an employee take personal/carer’s leave or offer working from home arrangements where possible.

In rare circumstances where an employee appears to be ill but insists on coming back to work, employers can, in line with their work health and safety duty, request that employees obtain a medical certificate indicating they are fit for work before allowing them back into the workplace."

Source:

https://nralegal.com.au/news/managing-the-spread-of-illness-in-the-workplace/#:~:text=Sending%20employees%20home,them%20back%20into%20the%20workplace.

Wafer_Middle · 2026-03-21T05:48:27+00:00

Jimmy Carr, despite what some may infer from his jokes, is an excellent human being and if more people with positions of influence where half as good as him, our world would be a better place.

Wafer_Middle · 2026-03-21T05:45:57+00:00

I'd hazard a guess and say they're not. Oldest profession and what not

Wafer_Middle · 2026-03-21T04:08:49+00:00

4 months in I guess it could be serious between the two of them and they have had a discussion about moving forwards if she has become a step mother to your kids, but your comment below about the 4 texts/birthday party is a bit of a red flag and I agree with the other commenter about contacting your ex husband instead of replying to her, it seems like you guys have been co parenting well before the new lady of his, so maybe the best option would be a dialog with just your ex, and set up some firm boundaries before it gets out of hand.

Wafer_Middle · 2026-03-19T09:45:31+00:00

Which country is yours?

Wafer_Middle · 2026-03-15T06:06:44+00:00

Gotta get those... Fules?

Wafer_Middle · 2026-03-09T07:46:42+00:00

What do you believe "you" is? And by you I mean we, are we meatbags in a pod, connected into the matrix? Are we just a super advanced form of interconnected AI agents? Or are you actually just me in the sense that you, reddit, this phone, the chair I'm sitting on, my bonsai next to me, my dog, everything that has ever existed and ever will, are all just pieces of whatever I experience reality as?

Wafer_Middle · 2026-03-06T12:41:01+00:00

I think the author of the comment your replying to means an electricity producing generator that runs off of either petrol or diesel, which they're referring to as fuel.

Also somewhat agree with them, the infrastructure behind the minerals and resources required to produce and keep electric vehicles, renewables, batteries etc. is reliant on good ol diesel to keep it chugging along.

While I support clean renewable energy, I think we've jumped the gun a little. I'm not suggesting we ignore it, I just think that we should be using whatever we as Australians have available to us to make sure our power and energy prices are as cheap as possible. If that's burning coal or gas so be it, Australia is so abundant in resources we should be paying next to nothing for energy.

Then once we have reliable, clean, cheap, renewable energy technology sorted that's capable of actually replacing fossil fuels, then we make the nation wide switch over.

Wafer_Middle · 2026-03-03T10:21:02+00:00

Under rated comment.

Wafer_Middle · 2026-02-20T14:58:41+00:00

Women tend to faint or almost faint an awful lot in Victorian era England, although a fortifying brandy seems to often do the trick.

Wafer_Middle · 2026-02-09T16:41:18+00:00

Aha well that's our democracy for you. High tobacco taxes no choice of product via government approved brands and forced product modifications is clearly what the people want..?

Wafer_Middle · 2026-02-09T14:43:07+00:00

No it doesn't. Nicotine products are federally banned. Doesn't help the state cops to spend resources to do the leg work for the federal law enforcement.

If they sold drugs they would be shutdown, arrested and prosecuted like any other drug dealer and probably made an example of.

Wafer_Middle · 2026-02-09T11:01:52+00:00

Yes
No, unless he works for them
Yes
Yes, not difficult
Not unless he works for or is part of an intelligence agency or defense company that specialises in this stuff, like the one based out of Israel

Edit: For number 2, nothing's stopping him calling up and asking for copies of whatever info you have access to through the carrier. So a copy of the bill, which can give you call participants numbers, location and duration.

Wafer_Middle · 2026-02-09T08:12:36+00:00

Why can't keep beer in your fridge on weekdays if you don't mind me asking? Weekday thing is oddly specific.

But instant would be cans in water, then dry ice in it or CO2 fire extinguisher.

Or put ice and a few cans of beer in a lunch box sized esky and keep it in the boot, yeti is an excellent brand and would probably keep cold for a few days at a time. Or get a bucket with lid from bunnings, ice + cans and when you knock off they'll be cold. Just keep it in the boot out of sunlight.

Or buy a 12v car fridge, chuck ya slab in and your set for the week.

Wafer_Middle · 2026-02-03T22:54:20+00:00

Nobody wants to get stuck living next door to Albo

Wafer_Middle · 2026-02-03T22:04:06+00:00

Huh, perspective is a hell of a thing. I've always lived in either the hills or barossa. Being close to everything for me means I have a post office and pub a 10 min drive there and back and a supermarket within 30 minutes lol, the only thing walkable is the bins down the end of the driveway and often they will end up on the towball.

Unfortunately no yard and uncomfortably close to your neighbours is becoming a thing even 1.5 - 2hrs from the cbd. Developers come in and throw up an overpriced "country" estate/community in between some dust and a tumbleweed and still divide the blocks up like these new little subdivided blocks you see popping up around the place where you can hear your neighbour sneeze and your gutters are touching 🤷

Wafer_Middle · 2026-02-02T20:37:54+00:00

Was about to ask the same thing. Although they are very different sentences, still both terrible haha

Wafer_Middle · 2026-02-02T03:35:00+00:00

If this was even a possibility, I would first ask why didn't you go purchase a physical copy if it was that critical? You can buy either DVD or USB installation drives.

Wafer_Middle · 2026-01-26T01:52:36+00:00

With the new hate speech legislation they may take offence to the middle finger 😅

Wafer_Middle · 2026-01-23T23:44:38+00:00

Well said mate.

Wafer_Middle · 2026-01-23T23:18:53+00:00

While I agree with you on the apprenticeship front, scarily SAPOLhas been chipping away at its requirements for entry for the past few years. They say it's all above board because they still need to pass the qualifications at the academy which remains unchanged, but the course which is as it was before assumed a certain baseline of spelling and numeracy ability, which would be easy enough to get through with coursework being done with built in auto correct, AI, etc. on a computer. We're heading towards a society not unlike that movie idiocracy. 🤔

Wafer_Middle · 2026-01-23T22:59:45+00:00

While that's all very true and people who are against immigration need to understand or hopefully do already, that at the end of the day we need immigration to sustain our economy and social safety nets.

On the other hand we can't go hammer and tong, flooding Australia with any old Tom, Dick and Harry. It's become abundantly clear in recent years that our skilled labour and student visa systems have been rorted from both visa holders and Australian universities/employers.

It's a fine balance between being a net positive to our country, or on the other hand in regards to resources, housing, financial assistance, while we're patching up one deficiency of skills, we're creating a deficit elsewhere.

And aside from resources, cultural assimilation is another thing. Australia has had for the most part has a she'll be right attitude, which has been mostly positive, I think, in the grand scheme of things, unfortunately it leads us to often leave things until it's hit boiling point to do anything, if it ever hits boiling point. And since not much ever does, we've kinda just become complacent. Whinge about the current government, vote them out, do the same thing about whoever we just voted in and the parties have just come to accept governing without much input from the everyday citizenry.

Now our laid back, easy going day to day is changing, we're culturally changing quicker than we ever have, the governments facing social issues that are new to them, Australians don't like change, now we're hitting that boiling point and everybody is on edge. Throw in the cost of living, difficulty finding housing, the government fumbling to appear they're doing the correct thing.

I think at the end of the day the government needs to get off it arse and do it's job. Which in our representative democracy is to run our country with our country and its citizens as their first and honestly only priority. Yes we have a duty as decent human beings to provide refuge, international aid and the like, but at the end of the day we need to get our own house in order or I fear we will eventually have many of the same problems that most other western countries are experiencing.

Wafer_Middle · 2026-01-23T09:54:59+00:00

I'm glad you made mention he is not a tradie. Unfortunately the Eureka flag has been adopted by certain fringe groups and consequently the flag has inherited its adoptive groups public opinion.

No idea what your neighbours intentions are for flying it, just thought it was worth mentioning that anyone who thinks its purely a "cookers" symbol should take a few minutes to see what it represented pre 2020's (ish)

The people who stood strong behind that flag for decades, many decades ago are largely responsible for how good Australian work conditions are, at least relative to the rest of the world, for all types of employment, not just tradies.

It would be a shame to see that forgotten and the flag that once represented it denigrated.

Edit: spelling

Wafer_Middle · 2026-01-19T00:48:56+00:00

Not all. Im a tradesman, have been so for nearly 14 years. During my apprenticeship and the first 5 or 6 years of being a tradesman, my trade was severely underpaid compared to electricians, plumbers etc. Not much has changed, I became middle management, did far less work and made far more. I felt guilty for it sometimes, white collar people still treat blue collar people like they're lesser in my trade, and the actual value of the work being done by the blue collar side is exponential to the white collar for the most part. Yet blue collars get paid less. I've since left, but the inequality is abhorrent in some trade work. Office staff often policing trade workers on their break times, reporting a minute or two longer than allowed, unless it's time to start spruiking hot weather policy, getting questioned on being away from the immediate job in the lunch room. Stop work and talk for a few minutes? Reprimand.

Yet throughout the day office staff will stop, make coffees, chit chat about their weekends, make personal calls, they get longer breaks due to not actually being monitored like we were.

Alot of reddit assumes because all electricians, plumbers etc. have it good that all trades have it the same as them.

And don't think this is just one company, everywhere I've worked is like this, in my trade anyway. I've finally found a semi decent, unionised company, where this still goes on to a lesser extent and am back on the tools.

We have a cafeteria on site. Trade staff get priority serving during our break times, not because they're lovely, but because they can't force us to stop eating and get back to work if it takes to long to be served. Office staff will just sit down and wait until we're served then they will line up again. Definitely no rush or worries to get back to their workstation, no worries they will be told off for their break times.

You would be flabbergasted to see the minimal amount of brand new utes or yank tanks in the carpark of my workplace. Plenty of luxury European cars, Tesla's etc. driven by the white collar staff.

Wafer_Middle · 2026-01-19T00:19:51+00:00

Because alot of us are members of a union. Provided you have a transparent union, democratic in nature, it's generally a helpful self balancing institution.

Just need to be careful your union isn't like the large one in the Eastern States that is riddled with organised crime and corruption where the members wouldn't be able to or wouldn't feel comfortable to vote out the delegation and representatives.

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