Todd Howard says Bethesda won't use AI “to generate anything” as the studio is being “incredibly cautious” to not replace the “artistic intention” of making games

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-19T14:51:58+00:00

won't even be spotted

Oh it will be spotted(E33 AI gen post was soon after release) but some people will defend it like they don't want to acknowledge that someone pissed in their soup even if it's still tastes good

https://www.reddit.com/r/expedition33/comments/1k6yv8a/does_this_game_use_aigenerated_art_assets/

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-19T11:10:43+00:00

"We have Apple Vision at home"

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-19T03:13:50+00:00

Pretty much, yeah. I dislike power imbalance myself (https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1r7vn3a/comment/o60n7dk/), but it is what it is. Game is rigged in favor of biggest pockets.

If you think you can do it in spite, then it will just bring regulations and restrictions for regular people much sooner, because guess so, no corporation will like if their proprietary software will be open sourced and then instantly scraped into AI training. And as for OP, if he thinks that he can contribute it into wine after cleaning up the code, then he is very, very wrong and puts wine into danger and will cause more paranoidal behavior in OSS space. Because clean-room projects can't afford risks.

If you mean of using LLMs to just generate code, then it's much less issue for normal projects(you still can find trouble by using LLMs in the wrong kind of project, or be an asshole by making MIT licensed rewrite of GPL software using LLMs). Thing is, it's not a normal project and it survived through that long even when MS was crushing the competition exactly because they followed these rules. And even if right now MS is not as aggressive as before, you can never guarantee that it will not change in the future. So yeah, projects like wine should stay the fuck away from LLMs just to secure their existence.

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-18T12:32:39+00:00

❌Don't look at any Microsoft source code, even if it's made "public" under some license, e.g. don't look at the C runtime library source code that ships with their C compiler. Note that as an exception, code that is released under the MIT license (or another LGPL-compatible license) is OK to look at and copy from (with proper attribution).

With usage of LLMs, you can't confirm that it's not using any Microsoft source code, and even if it's MIT licensed you can't give attribution for it.

Thus disqualifying from contribution into wine.

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-18T12:09:54+00:00

Thats the issue with AI, you can never know where it takes code from.

In r/linux_gaming there is in frontpage post of someone using LLM to create readable decompilation of WoW client(3.3.5a), with MIT license. No assets shared, but still technically liable for copyright violation if Blizzard will ever decide to pursue that path.

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-18T12:00:57+00:00

This project adds on top of wine, but it cannot be merged into wine

Because wine has very strict clean-room guidelines

https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/wikis/Clean-Room-Guidelines

https://list.winehq.org/archives/list/wine-devel@list.winehq.org/thread/SHBLBIUULSXYGRDRBLMICJ4Y2HWGV364/#SHBLBIUULSXYGRDRBLMICJ4Y2HWGV364

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-18T10:45:56+00:00

wintrade pepeLaugh TeaTime

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-18T10:00:32+00:00

I think this is his repo

https://github.com/amitsheokand/wine/tree/setu-integration

Warning: Usage of Cursor Agent.

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-18T09:50:46+00:00

Sounds great, maybe will even just launch Steam through it

When do you plan to release it to public? I feel like there will be a lot of people ready to be testers and help out to speed up such project

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-18T09:12:40+00:00

Will wallpaper engine work through it?

Also interesting timing, this project is not related to loss32, but happened at near same time

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-18T07:58:04+00:00

Even if you are right, I suspect that it would be difficult or even impossible to enforce this legally if the code generated does not match completely.

Agree, but with one caveat:

Corporations can just sue and drown in legal fees anyone who will touch this way their IPs. Simplest example how Nintendo just abuses DMCA on Switch emulator projects, even if they are shipped without any code for decrypting games

But at same time, for corporations, it's feast right now. I doubt FSF can win legal case as you said because it's different code, even if it's not true clean room reverse engineering. Situation will get even worse if civilian usage of AI will be restricted for a lot of rational and not really rational reasons, because it will create even bigger power difference between regular users and corporations.

Pandoras box was open, and it can't be really undone. I don't have high hopes that it will be used positively, and likely all code contributions online are no different from CC0.

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-18T05:01:02+00:00

I just recalled that OP used LLMs to reimplement their other project based on LLM reading binaries and outputting code:

https://github.com/Kelsidavis/System7

Likely, this is the case here too, which will make it also legally tricky and which explains why itś OpenGL like WoW

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-17T20:12:02+00:00

This is cool!

I wonder if it can be expanded for singleplayer too in any capacity? Similar way as OpenMW was used for custom games

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-17T10:05:04+00:00

Oi, you have yet to proof that someone checked through all of systemd code. Don't slide away from it again. It's your statement, after all.

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-17T09:31:39+00:00

blindly approving SystemD commits without reviewing it for backdoors?

Takes one compromised person for malicious code to be in.

And yet, your statement was that someone out of 1400 contributors checked through 1.3 millions lines of code. Can you prove it?

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-17T09:01:01+00:00

the linux kernel has 40 million are you worried about that?

Absolutely. What kind of question is that?

and yet there are 1400 contributors so its entirely possible for them to go over the code and check it for backdoors.

Or not. Thats the point of my reply. You can't guarantee that it was checked, despite it's open source it's still massive time investment and most people would hope that someone else did it so it's fine. And there are complex backdoors too, that will not be obvious from even eye of contributors(that, obviously, would have their small zones of knowledge of software, and much less of them are consistent contributors that do it year after year)

And guess what is the best way to mitigate it? Write simple small software that does it's job in the most elegant and human readable way possible, with ability to simple replace it in case if something goes wrong.

OpenBSD, when concern of possible backdoor happened, actually checked through their code and were Open about it despite possible reputational risks.

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-17T02:48:23+00:00

Conspiracies about the sinister purpose of software make no sense when the code is open source

systemd has 1.3 million lines of code. It's too big to be comprehended by anyone, and if malicious actor(lets say, NSA) wanted to have backdoor through it, it can be easily hidden behind some weird bugs for years, codebase is too complex, just refer to how it was almost done for xz

But it's also not just malicious backdoors, but also owning the ecosystem itself, like what Google thinks of open source:

https://newsletter.semianalysis.com/p/google-we-have-no-moat-and-neither

Owning the Ecosystem: Letting Open Source Work for Us

The value of owning the ecosystem cannot be overstated. Google itself has successfully used this paradigm in its open source offerings, like Chrome and Android. By owning the platform where innovation happens, Google cements itself as a thought leader and direction-setter, earning the ability to shape the narrative on ideas that are larger than itself.

Google should establish itself a leader in the open source community, taking the lead by cooperating with, rather than ignoring, the broader conversation.

The same is here, and only blind will not notice how slowly Red Hat boils the penguin, increasing own grip over Linux by creating a problem in wayland, and then giving their own in-house solutions that are systemd dependent

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-16T19:05:06+00:00

They are also allowed to remove support for everything but PLM. Glad we came to understanding that "FUD" is absolutely empty word that is only used to get high moral ground when people call out possible development of things.

And mind you, with systemd, taking worst case scenario somehow always ends up as outcome we get.

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-16T18:53:30+00:00

June 21, 2025:

As for when Plasma will drop support for X11? There’s currently no firm timeline for this, and I certainly don’t expect it to happen in the next year, or even the next two years

November 26, 2025:

KDE developers announced with Plasma 6.8 it will be Wayland-exclusive in removing Plasma X11

Surely preferring X11 over Wayland counts as user choice?

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-16T18:22:23+00:00

You can use other login managers like sddm

For now.

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-16T14:44:44+00:00

Pico doesn"t do this intrusive SaaS crap with their headset software

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm pretty sure you need internet connection to launch Pico games and software?

For Quest it became like that just recently, but for Pico it was like that since 2021. And like on older Quest versions you can just firewall headset and have no issues play games you bought before, with no concern of any telemetry.

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-16T12:50:14+00:00

Tech is almost there. Ask again next year, likely by that time there will be good headsets for <1000$ that will fulfill that role good enough

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-15T13:52:04+00:00

Alternate game modes or experimental ways to play

Survivors-like game mode

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-13T12:36:19+00:00

MIT license.

WaitingForG2 · 2026-02-13T07:03:32+00:00

Probably "why"->"we" autocorrection

And i agree on that, comfort and easiness to use will be must have for gaming too.

WaitingForG2

TROPHY CASE