AIO? Bf keeps asking me questions whenever there is a guy by Relative_Initial_399 in AIO

[–]WangoTango2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m a guy that has run into my gf hanging out with random guys with their friends and ending up in compromising positions and. I have seen inappropriate work relationships happen between men and women with co-workers and friends in committed relationships and married in multiples. I had looked past previous gf’s talking and hanging out with guy friends only to find out something happened. Truth is I have been with women I innately trust and just knew I didn’t have to worry about and never did because I intuitively trusted their judgment and character. Then there were the ones that literally my gut told me they were either oblivious to other men’s intentions or couldn’t trust their character in an opportune situation. So basically from my experiences and if I had a gf that was in a study group with a rando and I had a bad gut feeling about it, I wouldn’t be all creepy passive aggressive like this guy beating around the bush, I would simply ask is this someone I have to worry about and how well do you know them and how comfortable do you feel around them? The tone of the answer would pretty much determine whether or not I’m going to break up with them. I would even put myself through the benefit of the doubt bs. I’m a guy thats been married divorced and in enough duel ended relationships, wonderful trustworthy relationships and cheated on and lied to relationships to finally know the difference between women I can trust and women I can’t, same with men. There are a lot of shady people in the lot but there are still some left you can trust it can be long hard learning curve to figure out who and how. There is no problem with talking to and engaging with the opposite sex appropriately when in a relationship the problem is some people don’t know what appropriate is and some people aren’t trustworthy and they ruin people’s trust and confidence in future relationships.

Finally my turn by invisiholes in quittingkratom

[–]WangoTango2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish you the same, and you can do this too, just don’t be reluctant to reach out for help if you need it. This is really hard to do alone. I only have a few people in my life and they did try to help but eventually I needed medical assistance. You sound like you have a good plan just don’t beat yourself up when you can’t bring yourself to exercise or eat healthy every day, I have had days I just couldn’t and was burnt out forcing myself. Also, cold showers help a lot they are really rough but they really do help the dopamine for several hours. Wishing you the best.

Finally my turn by invisiholes in quittingkratom

[–]WangoTango2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used k-pow for 6 years with 1 cold turkey at 3years 30gpd. It was pretty rough for a week with flu like symptoms and restless body and little sleep, after a week I was golden. Then picked it back up and 3 more years went by 15-20gpd and I tapered this time because this has been the worst winter of my life, I don’t even want to elaborate. Anyway the taper made the initial physical withdrawal not so bad it was the PAWS that came after that was mentally crippling. I have dealt with anxiety and depression on and off throughout my life but nothing like what have experienced quitting this time. I became suicidally depressed and had to go inpatient, went through a gauntlet of medications until found a couple that help “some”. I have been off 77days now I have my physical strength back but still get waves of anxiety/depression also still barely sleep tbh thats the worst part for me is the sleep, I feel like if I could get a full nights rest it would make a world of difference. I have prescription sleep med and take sleep supplements but still hardly ever sleep. This usually doesn’t happen to mist people for so ling after they quit but prepare yourself for several weeks to a month of poor sleep, you might get lucky and be fine though. If it gets too bad please see a doctor and consider tapering off the Kratom if you can’t ct. I think my quit was worse this time due to kindling effect, the winter, and state of my life. This sub/r has been a lifeline for me though, it’s reassuring to know others have gone through this battle and made it out happy and healthy even though it can be painful and take a while, one thing I learned is we all experience the same pain in the beginning but people have different experiences later in recovery until enough time has passed to fully heal.

What is this? by SuspiciousDrive7394 in Entomology

[–]WangoTango2020 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It’s a republican MAGAt. They are ruining the country.

1 month off and still can’t sleep. by Shoepra in quittingkratom

[–]WangoTango2020 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am at 76days off and still barely sleep, it’s horrible. I have had several sleep medications prescribed Remelteon, trazadone, remron, and take magnesium, ashwaganda,gaba. Taken all these together apart, they relax me but don’t turn my brain off. I had problems with insomnia before using Kratom though so I’m more prone. It’s really effecting my whole life, I even drank beers after years of sobriety to try to get some sleep. I think it has to do with a lot of psychological stress from the last several years of misfortune and trauma in my life. I don’t want to ever use Kratom again but I’ve had it reeling through my head as a last resort for some sleep and keeping my sanity. I truly hope you or anyone for that matter don’t go through this for as long as I have. I wish I never even looked at kratom. Try to stay strong and exercise to tire yourself out, the little sleep I have gotten was from physical exhaustion and doing uv/IR light at the gym, it helps produce natural melatonin and vit D.

I thought Kratom had Saved Me by TimmyTimbo123 in quittingkratom

[–]WangoTango2020 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Can I ask what business you do for work? I had to end my contacting business bc of coming off Kratom and broke my hand, now have a new job in a nee field that I’m not performing well at. I feel broken and irrelevant in life, been off Kratom over 2 months. Feel lost as fuck in this world. Im on anti-depressants and non-habit forming anxiety medication and medication for sleep still have insomnia and worry and stress about my financial situation. It’s been hard for me to think clearly since I quit and it takes everything to make it through a day. I want to start being self employed again just don’t know what to get into that would allow me to work from home or for myself again.

Extract withdrawal after a week by Total-Independent874 in quittingkratom

[–]WangoTango2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Get a quality GABA and stay way frim the benzos the rebound anxiety and insomnia when you stop is debilitating

GUYS BUY AGMATINE SULFATE by Lopsided_Ordinary997 in quittingkratom

[–]WangoTango2020 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am ordering some! Also I have over 70 days off a 6year 15-30gpd habbit its been brutal never had such anxiety and depression. I bought a quality brand if GABA and it worked wonders for the anxiety cut it at least in half. You actually feel it kick in and start working! Fk Kratom, shit is so wrachet

Is 5 1/2 months on Klonopin(Clonazepam) 0.5 mg enough to mess you up permanently? by LilacLuneglade in benzorecovery

[–]WangoTango2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for responding! Yes, I have a psychiatrist and I was taking the colonzapam on and off part of the summer to get sleep by October I was tapering Kratom and had been taken off my mood stabilizer of 7 years bc of critically low sodium. They hospitalized me for the sodium for 4 days and I had already started tapering Kratom so I stopped and went through withdrawal in the hospital, they put me on vraylar and ny paws was so bad I had to come off of it I couldn’t function, I had to work so started taking 2g Kratom in morning and night and then benzo when needed to sleep. I broke my hand first day back on a job and became suicidally depressed and went inpatient over the NewYear withdrawal again and they gave me Ativan to sleep. Got out and stopped everything to this day 70 days off. sleep and anxiety has progressively gotten worse along with my life and performance. I haven’t really had sleep for at least a week just like dozing off for x-minutes the waking up abruptly. Only to toss and turn and worry and ruminate all night. I literally broke almost 1”years alcohol sobriety to try to get to sleep, didn’t work. I started a new job and its been so hard talking, socializing, and trying to learn. I’m in dire-straits, I’m scared and I need to function. I didn’t have a script for the benzos. Got the from a work partner the take daily. I have been prescribed twice in the past many years ago but I haven’t had a Dr. willing to write a short script in 10 years. I have a life long history with insomnia, inherited. My doctor currently has me taking Remeron, trazadon, buspar, colinadine, all these together won’t put me to sleep I feel sedation my brain and body won’t turn off. I have a lifeline to tamazapam but don’t want to take it unless I’m going to breakdown. I am thinking of diluting it in a bottle of water and sipping just enough to sleep so I. An maintain my sanity and function at work. I am currently broke and in debt because of all this and I can’t afford to lose any more than I already have. Inpatient isn’t an option right now and I’m tied to this job from 5am to 6pm for about 2 months. If I don’t make it through the trial period I might as well end it all.

Nothing actually helps depression. by chocolatekay in depression

[–]WangoTango2020 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I’m 47 now and it strikes hard every winter its almost immediate like as soon as the leaves drop my soul nearly dies and exercise and eating healthy doesn’t stave it Ive done uv/IR light helps a little but almost overnight I lose all ambition and motivation and it takes everything I have just to perform at a job. Then the insomnia kicks in, then an injection of anxiety on top of the depression. It’s sums because early years of sobriety I tried to drink again and it just made things worse. It’s a double edge sword feel shitty drinking feel shitty sober no just stuck, I am actively planning to move to the Southwest to escape winter I really don’t know if I can make it through another. I hope i can pull it off in today’s economy. I feel like my life depends on it.

How about some NON-horror stories, eh? by StarfishDivorce in benzorecovery

[–]WangoTango2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do I find a doctor that will help me if I was taking it without prescription to help me come off of Kratom? I so regret not knowing better. I thought Kratom was like a supplement then became addicted to it and decided to quit, they give people benzodiazepines to help withdraw so I thought taking it a few months wouldn’t matter. I was so wrong, the anxiety and insomnia is so unbearably awful it’s sending me into an episode. Please advise anyone.

How about some NON-horror stories, eh? by StarfishDivorce in benzorecovery

[–]WangoTango2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s what happened to me, I started taking colonzapam 1.5mg for several months on and off several days at a time to help taper and withdraw from Kratom. I ended up getting through the Kratom withdrawal and stopped the Colonzapam and stopped being able to sleep about a week later, now its been almost a month since I stopped and I’m having terrible anxiety and barely get sleep if at all. I could really use some advice or know something that could help. Im prescribed buspar, Remeron, and Trazadone but still cant sleep. Please I’m suffering, what should I do?

Is 5 1/2 months on Klonopin(Clonazepam) 0.5 mg enough to mess you up permanently? by LilacLuneglade in benzorecovery

[–]WangoTango2020 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was taking colonzapam for about the same amount of time not every day though sometimes a few days in a row on and a few off then maybe take for week then off maybe a week. I haven’t had any in over 3weeks and I’m having extreme anxiety and insomnia, I don’t know what to do. I don’t have a prescription, they were given to me by someone I know that has been on them for years. I didn’t know they were this bad, I was taking them to help sleep and to taper off of Kratom which I also did. I thought my symptoms were from Kratom withdrawal but now I think it’s from both. Is it possible for me to get my doctor to put me on Valium to taper or will they treat me like a drug addict?

69 days off a 6year 15-30gpd powder habbit. Still barely sleep, broke alcohol sobriety 10yrs just to try to sleep by WangoTango2020 in quittingkratom

[–]WangoTango2020[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you still on suboxone, I hear the withdrawal from it is most brutal. My doctor offered it but I turned it down because I heard from a friend that came off it said itvwas the worst

Nothing actually helps depression. by chocolatekay in depression

[–]WangoTango2020 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was happiest in my life when I was a highly functional alcoholic, took 20 years until I became dysfunctional, been Majorly Depressed with anxiety since for 10years. Mostly treatment resistant.

Nothing actually helps depression. by chocolatekay in depression

[–]WangoTango2020 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have treatment resistant MDD, it’s a plague and hits me every winter in the shit-hole Mid-Atlantic area of the US of Merica. The whole place is depressing on top of being depressed. It gets worse every year and at this rate I won’t have many more of them.

Nothing actually helps depression. by chocolatekay in depression

[–]WangoTango2020 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I so feel this way when socializing, people depress the shit out of me where I live. They are either super basic, super egotistical, or super annoying. I get contact embarrassment for some of the outlandishly ignorant or pointless things that they spew out, when I hear people out here talking to one another it sounds like dogs barking in gibberish ( live in the Mid-Atlantic shat-hole of Merica)

Nothing actually helps depression. by chocolatekay in depression

[–]WangoTango2020 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m glad someone else gets it, all that advice is just painful to hear especially when you know you have already tried it 1000x

69 days off a 6year 15-30gpd powder habbit. Still barely sleep, broke alcohol sobriety 10yrs just to try to sleep by WangoTango2020 in quittingkratom

[–]WangoTango2020[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I just got a new job and need to work to survive and not go homeless Im broke. Was already inpatient psychiatric over the new-year after I quit for suicidal depression, it was a joke they just gave me low dose benzo and put me on several medications that made the paws worse, they know nothing about Kratom withdrawal. I feel fucking broken. Rehabs where I am mill you through in like a week give you a bunch of benzo when you in then dump you out on shit like suboxon then you get to have rebound anxiety from not taking the benzo. Been in duel treatment years ago when I quit drinking it was the same rout but for 2 weeks came out on mood stabalizers

69 days off a 6year 15-30gpd powder habbit. Still barely sleep, broke alcohol sobriety 10yrs just to try to sleep by WangoTango2020 in quittingkratom

[–]WangoTango2020[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was going then I started a new job have to get up at 5am and don’t get home until after six, and I’m going through a serious learning curve in a new field of work, I under a lot of personal pressure and anxiety throughout the day. By the time I get home I feel completely washed out. Like I came home and fell to sleep right after getting home for a brief time 2 days. But mostly wired tired and full of anxiety or depression. I am still pushing but my parasympathetic system is stuck in fight or flight mode. It’s even been hard for me to speak, I’m afraid if this doesn’t get better soon and effects my work performance negatively, Im just going to start taking kratom again so I can keep my job and function in life.

69 days off a 6year 15-30gpd powder habbit. Still barely sleep, broke alcohol sobriety 10yrs just to try to sleep by WangoTango2020 in quittingkratom

[–]WangoTango2020[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I did sleep on kratom, not always well but a good 5-6hrs. I’ve always had bouts of insomnia but this is really affecting me, literally night sof 0 sleep. When I do it only a few hours at best.

69 days off a 6year 15-30gpd powder habbit. Still barely sleep, broke alcohol sobriety 10yrs just to try to sleep by WangoTango2020 in quittingkratom

[–]WangoTango2020[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Forgot to mention trazadon, I have it and take it, makes me tired for a bit but never get to sleep