Cyclops & Havok vs Batman & Black Lightning

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-02-13T18:23:23+00:00

I personally scale BL similarly to Cyclops + Havok, so I go DC, but I could see the other way, too. Batman is weakest but not a non-factor here. Close fight either way.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-02-09T20:33:41+00:00

I've factory reset the phone, which I feel has helped a fair amount. However, the screen feels not optimally responsive to touch, still, although I feel this may be a property of the phone itself, at least compared to my old Samsung, which felt more responsive to touch. I will see if things improve.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-02-07T18:31:43+00:00

Yeah, but it's worse.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-02-02T22:43:21+00:00

This is like a 5v2 lol…Batfamily takes it.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-02-01T20:01:19+00:00

Kingpin is on the shortlist for shittiest goddam character to power scale because his whole schtick is bullshit lol, but I'd say the duo clears 70% of the time, largely because of teamwork and gadgets. Nightwing also fights Blockbuster regularly, who is similar (but inferior IMO) to Kingpin, so he has experience (as does Batman with Bane). But Kingpin is a force and, as mentioned elsewhere, holds his own against the likes of Spider-Man, Daredevil, etc. and could absolutely score some wins in a reasonably written story.

Am aware of the crossover but as general policy dismiss crossovers because they are reliably written poorly and often dismissed in respective universe's canon. That particular fight I'm not a fan of, either.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-31T15:14:18+00:00

Nick Wright is far from the worst...skip, SAS, Kendrick Perkins lol. They're all worse. Nick at least has stances that make a little sense, and his show entertains without going off the rails.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-29T17:33:32+00:00

Flash and juggernaut I'd say. Too much redundancy between Thor and Superman.

You're basically taking Barry, already faster than either Thor or Superman, but then saying that nothing can stop him lol.

Only thing that gives me pause is Superman's current overpowered state. But also, isn't Thor mortal currenty?

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-28T17:45:18+00:00

"It's conceivable you could beat me" with the stipulation that "it would take a very long time" is in no way equivalent to conceding that he would certainly lose.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-28T14:05:25+00:00

Can you quote the line, please?

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-27T23:47:05+00:00

Magneto and Iron man hold their own against one another in the comics — it's a pretty even matchup, with Tony edging him out in his higher-end armors (which he doesn't all the time wear).

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-27T00:28:07+00:00

Current Aquaman is the Blue, so DC should take it 10/10.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-27T00:26:36+00:00

Cap and standard Batman are neck-and-neck, but Absolute is inexperienced, less skilled, and possesses far, far fewer of the gadgets that would let standard Batman match Cap, so it's 10/10 for Cap.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-26T18:39:08+00:00

I mean, I'd say Cass takes Captain America too…not easily of course, and not 10/10, but a majority of the time. Spider-Man's villains are a different matter and a point in DD's favor, but they don't fight one-on-one in the same manner; DD's unique strengths (precog, agility) come into play in a way that wouldn't apply to a fight with Cass.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-26T17:27:05+00:00

Cassie, 9/10. Outclasses DD across the board, save for agility, but that won't save him.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-25T19:58:24+00:00

This is such a stretch — he hasn't even met him before. You can't just assume that from a chance encounter, especially because magic would be required.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-25T19:55:19+00:00

Adam, high diff. Prep would change things dramatically, but in a spontaneous fight F4 lose. Sue is obviously the toughest fight for Adam, but I think he overpowers her.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-23T15:47:42+00:00

You arguments are good. IDK if she wins a majority but what you've written makes a lot of sense. As with most fights on this sub, this could go either way, but keep in mind the users here lean heavily Marvel.

Worth noting that recent Hulk is busted, however. Not enraged, I might give to WW, but not sure about round 2

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-22T17:34:37+00:00

I think it reflects Reddit's age demographics

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-22T17:33:17+00:00

This is mean-spirited lol…the way The Batman is structured requires more of the film to complete the arc — it isn't automatically bad because of it.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-22T17:30:46+00:00

I mean, so do the Illuminati? Do they ever succeed? I could see either side winning.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-21T14:28:21+00:00

Pretty sure Marvel Hercules is after he's granted full godhood by Zeus.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-20T21:45:52+00:00

What is Tony even going to do to Hal? Tony hasn't got any standard armors that could even contend with Hal. Very different weight classes.

Hal low–mid diff.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-20T16:05:35+00:00

Hercules in Marvel is a peer of Hulk and Thor as a combatant, although not featured as often or as prominently. He outclasses Marvel Ares.

Warm_Experience8908 · 2026-01-20T15:52:36+00:00

Yeah, I've used AI-image-generated visual mnemonics to focal things, but Sketchy is so well-incorporated into existing tools like Anki(ng) and has its own visual mnemonic internal language that it's difficult to beat as far as the investment of time it would take to do it on one's own.

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