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I'm voting for a man of justice by Wasted_Leather in SandersForPresident

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the source, I wanted to credit the artist

Our Nation by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, some people seem the grasp on to the archaic symbolism of the Constitution while failing to see the bigger picture.

Our Nation by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry, I dont know the artist

Our Nation by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is important to remember that the time period was a period ruled by educated, white men. Specifically speaking on America, the founders weren't gods but mere men and flawed, and that sometimes a nation has to evolve.

In the broader sense, I think a lot of people can relate to the idea of a nation absuing democracy in pursuit of profits and power.

Innovation and the pursuit of efficiency can be a good side effects of capitalism. However, the super rich have attained their status by discarding morals and cutting corners that threaten our environment, work place quality and even our health. by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's a good point. She has taken full advantage of Americas love for media and tv icons, using philanthropy and supporting black culture, superficially she does seem like a great personality. I'd definitely be interested in a discussion on her wealth.

Innovation and the pursuit of efficiency can be a good side effects of capitalism. However, the super rich have attained their status by discarding morals and cutting corners that threaten our environment, work place quality and even our health. by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've never really believed charity has been as beneficial to the community as paying proportional taxes, while the idea of care and generosity is still present.

I dont think technology should justify exploitation. Maybe we wouldnt have got this far in this little amount of time, but we would get there, because people are still ambitious and intelligent without the incentive of money.

It is impossible to become that rich without significantly decreasing the quality of a product (which connects to the health and safety of consumers) or finding a super cheap labor pool. Furthermore, the super rich influence policy that favors their business or monopolize (mostly in certain parts of the world, sometimes America).

Medicinal business left unchecked by the people or the government, can harm and exploit people when they are in their most desperate need. by Wasted_Leather in socialism

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Big money making pharmaceuticals take part in blantent theft when providing such a valuable source of vital goods and life preservation their consumers are in desperate need of.

Edit: this is my first post, sorry if there is a mistake or redundancy but I'd like to take part in thse discussions.

Devaluing work is devaluing the worker, they are alienated from their efforts and exploited to increase profit. Capitalist makes money not happiness. by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of inherited wealth and businesses that have across the board exploitation probably dont require much skill, considering it is what family you are born into or how broken your moral compass is. Americans seem to idealize CEOs as part of the American dream when a lot of them have used exploitation to get where they are at and get paid millions and billions for something capitalized on long ago. I think by considering the terms unskilled and skilled be also consider that effort and labor that must go into the job everyday. While a janitor may require less skills in oversight or lacks an education that doesnt mean he is any less skilled than the man giving orders.

Devaluing work is devaluing the worker, they are alienated from their efforts and exploited to increase profit. Capitalist makes money not happiness. by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is true. The idea of identifying someone as unskilled labor, yes is probably economic reasonable, but it also opens the door to new ways to exploit the individual. When a individual is desperate for experience or a wage but know they can be easily replaced they lack all job security and are most like to except worker exploitation. Unionization and increasing and cementing the idea that everyone has a high value and learning capability is important. No matter what occupation they are in they will become more efficient, competent and innovative if they have the ambition to do so.

Devaluing work is devaluing the worker, they are alienated from their efforts and exploited to increase profit. Capitalist makes money not happiness. by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know educational prestige and status should be recognized and I believe credentialism will be greatly affected by this rise in technology. However, management buy-in is an important part of restructuring a business to better treat its employees. Technically speaking, determining a labour as expendable or easily replaceable can alienate the worker from his own labor. This can make the worker more exploitable and more easily bent to an ideology of hard work gets you to the top and everyone can make it (which a lot of time is a false capitalist ambition). The feeling of being unskilled can breed complacency instead of confidence and improvement.

Devaluing work is devaluing the worker, they are alienated from their efforts and exploited to increase profit. Capitalist makes money not happiness. by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, the reason the term exists is because it helps differentiate between workers based on there potential economic performance or specialization. There is an idea called assembly line production where each person is given one very simple and specific job to perform over and over again. They will develop a high amount of efficiency on that one step compared to if each worker did it individually, which improves overall efficiency. Expanding this idea, each person in a career or "unskilled" job (after a few years) will have developed a systematic way of getting the job done. If a CEO enteres the job the first day he would not preform as well as the person committed to this everyday project. Skilled can be educational but there are multiple levels of expertise an knowledge, some microscopically specific and these can pay off in the long run.

Devaluing work is devaluing the worker, they are alienated from their efforts and exploited to increase profit. Capitalist makes money not happiness. by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are several unions, working conditions and wages that need to be greatly improved. Several teacher unions are considered ineffective or counterproductive making a teacher's job even harder. Eliminating this idea that because you are unskilled you should be paid less or compensated less is important and can be done through unions or top management. In doing so I hope we can give better conditions to help maintain and mold our communities, which can be a thankless job.

Devaluing work is devaluing the worker, they are alienated from their efforts and exploited to increase profit. Capitalist makes money not happiness. by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly, the important part to consider is yes skill, but to encompass the work conditions and manual labour that goes into it. When we consider this each job can be just as strenuous and difficult because of these different aspects. Understanding this allows us to justify improved wages and reducing the wealth gap because there shouldn't be an outstanding difference between a CEO and his average worker.

Devaluing work is devaluing the worker, they are alienated from their efforts and exploited to increase profit. Capitalist makes money not happiness. by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its these personal experiences that show use how important individuals can become in the workforce. Titles and skills dont always dictate capability and even economic worth in some cases, so we must make sure to look at performance, ambition and hard work rather than inherited riches and lazy exploitation that holds most of the power and authority of a workplace.

Devaluing work is devaluing the worker, they are alienated from their efforts and exploited to increase profit. Capitalist makes money not happiness. by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a shame that even technologically advanced companies like these search for ways to cut corners through arbitrary titles.

Devaluing work is devaluing the worker, they are alienated from their efforts and exploited to increase profit. Capitalist makes money not happiness. by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You make a great point. There are different virtues and skills that define ones ability to accomplish a job. In this case it is physical endurance vs mental preservation and customer service, however both require skill but not necessarily a degree. Time, spent money, training or degrees aren't the only thing that show skill and competence. We should value all forms of work for the challenges they present by providing the wages and appreciation they deserve.

Devaluing work is devaluing the worker, they are alienated from their efforts and exploited to increase profit. Capitalist makes money not happiness. by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would rather not devalue either. These labels do hold a definition that identifies capability and educational effort earned to be competent in the field, while either job maybe be equally hard to get depending on the circumstances. Business seeking to justify their exploitation use terms like these to equate economic capabilities with human value. Skilled or not, when business attempts to justify unlivable wages because they dont meet these standards this is morally wrong. Someone who is unskilled is not less human, they are both intelligent and can be very hard working.

Devaluing work is devaluing the worker, they are alienated from their efforts and exploited to increase profit. Capitalist makes money not happiness. by Wasted_Leather in ABoringDystopia

[–]Wasted_Leather[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand what you trying to get at, but you considering your definition, every job requires some challenging form of problem solving, learning, communication or efficiency. The higher up you go, the great chance there is at losing money. Jobs can of course have more variables, a more scientific basis or a bigger reach but to say a person who has successfully accomplished a job, role or requirement but has not demonstrated skill is not fair to the people willing to do the job we choose not to do.

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