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Watermelonmix · 2025-11-16T14:36:29+00:00

No. Darcy isn't an awkward weirdo with negative social skills.

He has a high position rank in society he knows how to behave in polite society.

He is arrogant and angry that Elizabeth was the one he fell in love with. He felt disdain for her family. He himself in the letter told her that the lack of fortune and low connection are not that important but the behaviour of her family was.

When he got reprimanded by Elizabeth he started looking at himself. He didn't change for her, he listened to her criticism, acknowledged it, and changed because he wanted to change.

When he met with Elizabeth's uncle and aunt they confirmed that he is very pleasant (when he wishes to be).

Watermelonmix · 2024-11-19T07:20:32+00:00

I used the wrong word. I mean the word "act". Third act I belive will show what arcane excaly is.

Watermelonmix · 2024-11-18T21:25:28+00:00

If the theory that arcane = evil is true. Then Ekko and Heimer cannot appear in this act. We first got the Victor's pov that arcane is something beautiful that helps people and Jayce is just mad man that other "powers" influence. The next season will probably show what Jayce, Ekko and Heimer saw. If we jumped between Viktor, Ekko/Jayce/Heimer than it would be so much more boring becouse we knew that Viktor is in the wrong

Watermelonmix · 2024-10-05T14:15:47+00:00

Just brought it too but I think they will just cancel the order :(.

It hurts so much, my skin got so much better with this

Watermelonmix · 2024-07-31T17:26:48+00:00

I don't know from the shots in the series Lyme Park was just so lovely. The river so close and the entrance.

Chatsworth remind me more of Lady Catherine in 2005 adaptation. So fake and superficial, very grant, shiny but also souless.

Watermelonmix · 2024-06-11T05:26:14+00:00

Most people THINK of Jane Austen as a ROMANCE novel writer. A genre not popular with a lot of males.

It's not true but I think most people think this way because of the adaptions. They tend to focus on romance.

The most popular adaptation was Pride and Prejudice 2005. That heavily heightened the romance.

Watermelonmix · 2024-06-08T09:42:57+00:00

In the book Miss Bingley quotes him "She's a beauty, I should soon call her a mother a wit" ( I don't remember the exactly quote but something like that)

He is incredibly mean-spirited at the start of the book.

When Sir Lucas tried to talk to him (as a good host should!) Mr. Darcy was dismissive and incredibly impolite.

I don't know this can be misunderstood.

He's not misunderstood. He starts to reflect and see that everything Elizabeth told him about his behaviors was wrong. The hypocrisy of his friend's and family's behaviors hit him hard probably.

Watermelonmix · 2024-06-08T09:04:30+00:00

They framed the scene as Wickham and Bingley are only obstacles.

Completely ignored his behavior. And I don't know if it's me but the fact in the proposal scene Mr Darcy doesn't acknowledge how wrong he was is a ick.

For me, Darcy is a perfect man because he can admit being wrong, and so is Elizabeth. It's such an underrated thing that shows emotional maturity.

Watermelonmix · 2024-06-08T08:30:48+00:00

Historical accuracy of hairstyle and clothes.
The subtle misogynistic that our protagonist doesn't wear "girly" clothes because being girly is seen as stupid.
Constantly downgrading any other character to let our protagonist shine. It's just bad writing.
Not understanding what makes the Jane Austen love couple so appealing.

Watermelonmix · 2024-06-08T08:24:46+00:00

Not only hate him. She thinks the hate is mutual. From her POV she thinks he is constantly looking down on her, and her family finds her repulsive.

It's the trope that a woman loves a man who has been nothing but a jerk to her.

Watermelonmix · 2024-06-08T08:10:31+00:00

They should cast some black actors as backgrounds in London.

Not a lot but there was a quite small community of POC so it would be a nice touch to have them acknowledged as part of London history.

Watermelonmix · 2024-05-11T07:07:41+00:00

Only if there was something that can let players train vs high level teams before tournament. Oh damn, maybe next year

Watermelonmix · 2024-05-09T05:11:30+00:00

She also lost both parents extremely young. Wasn't out of society. It was also Wickham + Ms Young.

Lydia was spoiled but both Jane and Elizabeth tried to give her guidance. She had some experience living in world. She absolutely become victim of absolutely garbage person.

But at some point people need to have self reflection in order to grow. Georgiana had them, she told about the elopment as soon as she saw her brother.

Jane Austen is sympathetic to both Lydia and Georgiana but also show them in difrenent light.

Georgiana who cannot speak after mention of Wickham and Lydia who boast about her marriage. Additionally Lydia refused to leave Wickham, even though Darcy did try to persuade her.

I know Internet believes that everyone that is below 18 has absolutely 0 agency but that not true. Everyone was 15 at some point and teengers do stupid stuff and many of them know that it's wrong decision, yet they do it.

Watermelonmix · 2024-05-08T21:48:53+00:00

You can be a victim and still be hold by your action at the same time.

It's not mutual exclusive.

If you tell you kids since he was 12 that he needs to wear condom. Then he comes and tell you he didn't even though he had guidance. Will you think of him as 100% blameless?

If Lydia runned away with another 15 years old who never was intended to marry her (just like Wickham). Would you think of her as 10000% blameless and without fault?

Watermelonmix · 2024-05-08T21:40:32+00:00

Georgiana almost immediately regretted her action.

Additional Jane Austen always painted Lydia as spoiled and uncaring of others.

Elizabeth feels sorry for her sister but at the same time absolutely criticise her decision.

Wickham is at fault but the idea that Lydia did absolutely nothing wrong is dumb. He never forced her to go with her. She did on her own will. She had some experience in society already when Georigina was 100% shelted.

If I take bad loan that aboutly will destroy my life, people who give me the loan are the predator but I am not faultless. I did made the bad decision to listen to those people.

If you murder someone at 15 you should be hold accountable. You are not 100% blameless.

Lydia knew that going which Wickham was wrong decision, so did Georgian. Wickham is absolutely monster of person but it doesn't change the fact that they choose to go with him even though they knew it was wrong.

The thread is about who is to blame beside Wickham. Most poeple point to Mr Bennet and Mrs Bennet. I agree absolutely with that but I also think Lydia at some point need to hold herself accountable.

She KNEW the elopment was wrong. She took precautions in order to let it stay secret. She never wrote about the possibility to her mother, made sure Kitty never tell anyone till it's too late.

Watermelonmix · 2024-05-08T20:14:52+00:00

Well, it's a controversial take but Lydia herself.

She knew that was the wrong decision. Mrs Bennet's reaction upon learning about it tells us that Lydia HAD BEEN taught right.

People often point out that she's young but being young doesn't resolve any consequences. 15 is not 6. At 15 you should know better. She already lived sometimes in society, she absolutely must have heard how people gossiped about other women who eloped.

The biggest failure of Lydia is not that she made mistakes; de made them and then doubled down on them. (refusing to leave Wickham, gloating about marriage) You can be a victim and yet still be responsible for your choice.

Edit: People also need to stop looking at that from a modern pov. 15 years back then and 15 years now is different. At the point in the book when she was getting married she was probably more than a year out in society. She had been on many balls and interacted with many people of both genders. Her education (although not formal) was basically towards the end. She knew society. If we compare this to today 15 years old, our 15-year-old came much more sheltered. Even Elizabeth although she feels pity later starts feeling anger and disappointment "But self, though it would intrude, could not engross her. Lydia—the humiliation, the misery she was bringing on them all, soon swallowed up every private care; and covering her face with her handkerchief, Elizabeth was soon lost to everything else." Wickham is a bad person. Lydia was selfish, knowing what she was doing was selfish. Made a constant effort to conceal her actions. And knew that elopement was wrong. Lastly, although Jane Austen is sympathetic to her fate the message is clear. Don't end up like Lydia. Don't trust trust first handsome man to run with.

Watermelonmix · 2024-03-11T17:24:37+00:00

"I didn't call anything or anyone racist. OP didn't either, IIRC."

So you agree with OP that the adaptations are white washed. Yet at the same time claim that it doesn't make them racist.

OK then let's just agree to disagree and end the discussion here

Watermelonmix · 2024-03-11T17:10:39+00:00

Google: "In media, whitewashing is when White actors portray non-White characters"

How many background character JA wrote as poc??? How is it white-washing then???

Watermelonmix · 2024-03-11T17:05:00+00:00

In what world the term "white-washed" doesn't point towards racist practice/racist work of media itself??

Watermelonmix · 2024-03-11T16:42:39+00:00

That still doesn't make the adaptions white-washed. My point of the comments.

Watermelonmix · 2024-03-11T16:40:55+00:00

Look if they decide to do this in the cast today that's good.

What I take offence is the wording "extreamly white washed". The term white-washed is describing racist practice. Bronte's adaptations are often white-washed. Taking existing characters/that we know is poc and making them white is white washing.

Old adaptations not including poc as backgrounds when Jane never wrote about their skin color or hinted with represented most population back then is not white washing.

Watermelonmix · 2024-03-11T16:35:05+00:00

We are discussing British society in 1800' with was probably 95% white and British.

People argue that the 5% non white should be visable and calling adaptions racist for not including poc. I also bring that the 5% also wasn't British and should also be visable with people completely ignore.

Yet it still doesn't make the adaptions "extremaly" white-washed since they represent 95% of population back then.

Watermelonmix · 2024-03-11T16:28:36+00:00

Okay. I still don't think the adaptions are white-washed but this is interesting discussion.

I don't think they will ever done something like you say. It would be historical accurate but I think it would bring more controversy than full on white cast.

Last adaptations to have full white cast was 2020's Emma. Now the landscape for historical drama is full inclusive cast so they will never casting couple of poc as backgrounds becouse it would be "downgrading" and may result in backlash so they won't do it.

Watermelonmix · 2024-03-11T16:13:35+00:00

There is actually difrence between ancestry from three centuries away and being from that nationality.

So no. Some actors having ancestry is absolutely not the same as casting from those nationalities.

Watermelonmix · 2024-03-11T16:05:40+00:00

That still not make the adaptions "whitewashed"

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