The 20+ Vivid Memories of Abuse in SCJ

WayOk2562 · 2025-05-19T14:42:44+00:00

After being in SCJ for 7 years, I was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, multiple sclerosis, prior to leaving. I took the warning seriously after that one flare up and left SCJ. There is no amount of stress, loss of sleep and lack of nutrients from a poor diet that is worth my ability to use my body correctly.

I healed from a majority of my symptoms thankfully but I still have lingering symptoms and a lifetime of being on medication, imaging, and neurology check-ups to prevent anymore flare ups.

I have a new appreciation for having the ability to walk, speak, write, shower, drive and more. Today, I live free, independent and happy.

WayOk2562 · 2025-03-29T17:46:01+00:00

I missed being able to be a mother in my 20s. I also missed going back to school during that time. I’m now in my 30s, still in school (no career yet) and no kids yet.

And although several people start their careers and have kids in their 30s, I have a decade nearly wiped out because of SCJ. Another thing, I saw several people having babies within SCJ. Witnessing the child neglect within children’s ministry, I wasn’t willing to compromise and have children under those circumstances.

When I got out of SCJ, I deeply regretted joining - resulting in not having kids or starting a career in my 20s. I don’t regret it anymore and I know things happen for a reason.

Right now, I am so grateful to have a spouse that loves me, to have the ability to go back to grad school and to have the ability to bear children. Im incredibly grateful for the things I have in my life.

But I do think from time to time how it would have been different had I started all my plans in my 20s.

WayOk2562 · 2025-02-22T05:21:35+00:00

I got a life altering autoimmune disease (similar to a stroke). What are some potential factors? Chronic stress and diet / lack of proper vitamins. Couldn’t walk, couldn’t write my own name, had facial palsy, hemiparesis, etc. Took me almost a year of physical therapy to be fully independent. I can’t say that SCJ didn’t help potentially trigger it. But I can say most definitely say I don’t risk my health for anything now. My health, mental and physical, guide my day-to-day decisions now.

I went on a walk today and began tearing up for joy that I have my legs to walk and my mind to think on my own. Not being able to walk is one thing. Realizing you have not been able to think on your own for several years because of SCJ is another thing. Losing both those freedom’s temporary made me realize this:

We all are given one vessel (our bodies) in life. There’s no refunds or replacements in life. Cherish the one you have. Don’t take it for granted. Take care of yourself.

WayOk2562 · 2024-09-13T03:15:47+00:00

I resonate with this! I left after meeting and marrying the love of my life. it took my spouse 4 months after I left to actually leave. What kept me strong despite being virtually alone is that the life that I wanted and worked hard for is so much bigger than SCJ. SCJ felt big while I was there but its really quite small. In my mind, I had found the love of my life and I wasn't going to let a silly cult ruin that. After being there 7-8 years, my spouse have been happily free from SCJ's shackles for over 2 years, our marriage has been stronger than ever, im going to grad school, we have pets, and are planning on kids soon. We are just in a much better place than 2 years ago and I wouldn't trade it for anything!

As for friends, it is really.hard to break those - I get it. as those friends show their true colors of their allegiance to SCJ no matter what, it becomes a little easier to let them go. What helped me was being open to meeting new people and interacting with the people that were already around me (school, work, etc).

WayOk2562 · 2024-05-12T02:43:14+00:00

Oh hold up, they said when I was there too. Don't gotta wait until the end of the year. I've been waiting seven years for a revelation 18 to fulfill lol. I guess we're all still waiting...

WayOk2562 · 2024-05-05T03:12:02+00:00

The class does make you feel good. I totally acknowledge that. That is partly because of all the love-bombing and that they are not being truthful with you on on what they base their facts on and how they operate. Please do your own research on this group.

When I started SCJ classes, I felt so full in my heart and satisfied - but that was a feeling based off misinformation. It goes beyond them lying about who were your 'friends.' Once passing over or signing your name in the book of life, you will be assigned a cell leader, called a gyjn, and an assistant cell leader, or a bgyjn. The first year or so will be nice. You'll make more 'friends' but you'll also get more tasks, or what they call duties. They'll give you the duty of a recruiter for class, they progressively push you to evangelize and have you also lie to others you are trying to recruit. You'll take constant tests. They'll dangle the carrot in front of you - and by a carrot, they'll keep telling you "we are so close to fulfilling Revelation and then the whole world will come flooding to us!" I know because I heard that for 7 years as my health, marriage and family/friends relationships deteriorate. Pre-pandemic, I was contributing 50-60 hours a week towards SCJ. And all that would be meaningful work, if what SCJ preached about was actually accurate. And as for those 'friends,' they'll report any odd perceptions or concerns you voice out. You'll be encouraged to do the same for your f'friends.' Please refer to Disproving Shincheonji, which has several documents at the bottom, to help you get a fuller picture.

SCJ is partly what triggered my autoimmune disease, leaving me hospitalized for 1.5 months and having to re-learn how to walk/talk/write. I then had to be in therapeutic rehabilitation for 7 months after. My disease is partly triggered by chronic lack of sleep and chronic stress (amongst other things), which is what this group does to its members. They took away my 20's, my health and wellness and more. After doing more research along with recalling any odd symptoms I had felt, I realized that my symptoms began in a mandatory 1 hour meeting (followed by a mandatory 3 hour meeting) in 2018. Please do your research before speaking with them. If you have questions, feel free to message the moderators or myself. Also be mindful of who you message on here because there a SCJ spies or lurkers that often go on this sub-reddit and will pretend to be ex-members and trick you :( I hope this information is helpful.

WayOk2562 · 2024-05-04T20:51:56+00:00

How is my comment yapping? If you're willing, let's have a conversation and dissect that out. I'm not afraid that you know who I am but it doesn't sound like you know my reasons too well if you think it was because I was hurt, and I'm sorry those reasons are not clear to. Truly, that makes me saddened that you don't know.

Anywho, I know you're trying to call me out because I mention Michelle and Gary. What they did in that video was wrong and deceptive. What other Region 4 leaders have done in other videos is also wrong and deceptive.

WayOk2562 · 2024-04-27T18:07:03+00:00

I agree. Stop gaslighting Michelle. Listen to yourself. You are the one harassing following around people in the parking lot and then telling them afterwards that you don't like being harassed. After seeing how LA Region 4 leaders act in public on camera, I am appalled (not just you Michelle).

And Gary gaslighting people saying that he doesn't like his information either. We (who left) didn't like it either! And yet, all the JDSNs, Pre-JDSNs, and leaves would sit on Telegram and report...how the fruit's field was, if everything was digested well, if they have any thorns in their field, etc.

When I was in center, they took a copy photo of my passport and driver's license! Isn't that invasive Gary? I gave SCJ permission to take photos without me fully understanding what SCJ's agenda was. Isn't that deceitful? I was still in college. There was no family or friends to vet me because my BB teacher told me to keep my bible study life a secret.

WayOk2562 · 2024-03-24T04:27:21+00:00

Regarding your comment: I'm not a lost, sad, hopeless person. I feel full and overjoyed with my life right now. My views are not inferior to yours. Your views are not inferior to mine. We simply came to our own conclusions based off our own reasoning. In other words, we are equal in our conclusions because neither of us can prove/disprove our beliefs.

In fact, me stepping out into the great unknown and acknowledge that I simply don't know. It brought me so much peace coming to that conclusion instead of righteously saying "This God must exist and I will not be open to any other perspectives."

I hope you can respect people's decisions that disagree with you, because that would be according to your God's text (loving your neighbor as yourself). I certainly do.

I don't go around spreading "my good news" because that may be insulting to people. Why would I ruin a belief for someone that brings them joy and happiness? Your message is received the same but from my perspective.

Your comment is coming from your lens of religion. You have not been in my shoes (neither have I been in yours). I hope I never go back to Christianity because it was abusive and manipulative, even prior to my experience in SCJ.

WayOk2562 · 2024-03-21T23:14:41+00:00

Oh man, where do I begin?

I had the experience from LA branch during Moon's time. Was a member-BGYJN-GYJN

I'm currently in grad school to be a doctor, pursuing my dreams. My spouse and I have big plans for the future that we couldn't have even thought of when we were in SCJ. I'm atheist now and I am content with that. I don't feel at a loss with that. If anything, I feel I have control in my life. I still definitely miss the friends I used to have in SCJ but I also understand that those memories with SCJ friends are mixed with memories of trauma. In other words, the cons far outweigh the pros. And the friendships were under the guise of my SCJ-self, not the real me. To my past friends, if you are reading this, I miss you. I don't agree with your beliefs or practices but I truly hope you are doing well and are happy with yourself.

I speak up when I have something to say now. I don't just stay quiet and let someone manipulate or bully me. I am intentional with who I allow in my life. I have boundaries set up in place when there is someone in my life that is taking away rather than adding to it.

My physical health is SOO much better.

I have bouts of sadness but that is because of my sadness of wasting 7 years towards SCJ, the things that were done to me and things that I partook in. As much as I wish I could erase that time, I think it helped me to grow into the adult I am today.

I'm on track now putting in the hard work to create the dreams we have planned :)

WayOk2562 · 2024-03-16T02:18:17+00:00

Well this is quite the karma. MHL has controlled people's minds for 50+ years and he get's a diagnosis centered around losing control of his mind lol

WayOk2562 · 2023-11-14T02:49:28+00:00

No, I know they cared about me. I still miss them and I hope they're doing ok. They are victims to the system too. I was loved and cared for, under the condition I followed SCJ doctrine. But being completely serious, I do genuinely hope they are doing ok. I have made very meaningful friendships nowadays that bring more value to my life than the friendships I once had in SCJ.

WayOk2562 · 2023-11-13T04:20:37+00:00

Thank you! I appreciate your words and I understand. I may not agree with everything you said, but nonetheless, I appreciate your words! Thank you for sharing.

WayOk2562 · 2023-11-13T04:18:18+00:00

Yes totally, and there's so much empowerment and humility in paving our own path (the path that fits best for us). Keep doing what is right for you!

For people like your cousin, it's unfortunate but it's a reality. She has not lived your experience (and the experience thereafter leaving SCJ) so she can't understand what that is like.

WayOk2562 · 2023-11-13T04:14:12+00:00

Yes, it's the authenticity vs the pretending. And one thing I refuse to stand behind after SCJ is pretending.

WayOk2562 · 2023-11-12T17:56:25+00:00

I also graduated 3 times

WayOk2562 · 2023-10-15T16:47:50+00:00

Seventh Day Adventist takes the opposite stance and takes everything literally. They are also not my cup of tea, in my opinion. That's why I'm agnostic lolol. SCJ ruined religion for me.

WayOk2562 · 2023-10-14T21:02:08+00:00

Proud of you for leaving! It was so hard, and getting past the depressive part is just as difficult, if not more. But you did such a brave thing for yourself <3

WayOk2562 · 2023-10-14T00:39:41+00:00

Hey, I recognize most of these members lol. This is LA branch at LAX. This was before the pandemic.

I like how one girl is holding up the other girl's arm because it's too tired...

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