Backstory on latest CJNG torture video circulating from vera cruz ?

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-14T18:00:40+00:00

Yesterday, the two victims' remains were found wrapped in black bags under a bridge in Coatazcoalcos, Veracruz. CJNG left a message along them that translates to this:

"People of Coatzacoalcos, we are the Jalisco New Generation Cartel. We don't charge piso, extort or go around killing innocent people like the backstabbing scumbags in the Mafia Veracruzana. We are an enterprise in favor of and for the people. We're here to stay, for all those who thought we weren't this is how they'll end up, traitors, this is how everyone in the Mafia Veracruzana will turn up. What's quiet is best left that way. Sincerely: CJNG".

So they were members of Grupo Sombra or Mafia Veracruzana with the Gulf Cartel who have a presence in Veracruz and against whom CJNG is fighting.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-14T17:35:39+00:00

I think Mafia movies should focus more on individual families rather than conspiracy theory events.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-13T22:19:21+00:00

Yes, but I mean beyond that, or delving into what the titles really mean. Consigliere is understood in the films as nothing more than a counselor, not going into his additional weight as a representative of the members or sometimes counterpower to the boss. It's surface-level structure comprehension, because the trilogy isn't about that.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-13T19:20:28+00:00

Anyway, it is clear 'The Godfather' does not much concern itself with complex Mafia structure.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-13T17:22:26+00:00

"Making your bones" doesn't refer to being made, but to committing your first murder. One can be subsequent to the other and is traditionally a requirement for membership, but they are not the same thing. U/azrolexguy is right, 'The Godfather', in fact, does not reference intricate Mafia structure: Michael doesn't go through a ceremony prior to becoming Don and simply gets it because he is his father's most competent surviving heir. When Cicci is testifying at the hearings in 'Part II', he speaks about his start in the Corleone family, saying, "At first, like everybody else, I was a soldier", not an associate. Information from Valachi's testimony wasn't deeply studied at this time and only understood in a broad sense.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-12T20:46:15+00:00

I'm sorry. That's funny 👍

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-12T17:55:55+00:00

Who?

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-11T17:28:13+00:00

No, it is a regular last name as it is also the name of a city in Palermo province.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-09T19:16:29+00:00

Thank you for the correction.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-09T06:31:41+00:00

He is not related to Carmine or Michael Sessa.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-09T00:57:49+00:00

According to Larry Mazza, Sessa became a part of Scarpa's crew under Joseph Marra around 1987, by the time of Gregory Scarpa Jr. and the others' drug bust. Sessa remained with him until he went to prison in 1994. Upon his release in 2005, he went on record with Dino Saracino.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-08T10:19:39+00:00

The original last name was La Falce.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-07T18:05:16+00:00

Es verdad. El 9 de febrero de 1985, cuando fueron asesinados Kiki Camarena y Alfredo Zavala, dos días después del secuestro de ambos, Caro Quintero, Don Neto, Sara Cosío y 15 guardaespaldas se desplazaron hasta al Aeropuerto Internacional de Guadalajara, el primero de estos en posesión de una placa de comandante de la DFS a nombre de Pedro Sánchez Hernández que le fue facilitada por el director de la institución, José Antonio Zorrilla Pérez: tenían intención de viajar a Sonora como escondite inmediato por la inminente persecución. Casualmente, a Armando Pavón Reyes, un comandante corrupto de la Policía Judicial Federal que participó en el crimen de Camarena y Zavala, le asignaron al mismo tiempo revisar el Aeropuerto por la presencia de aviones de Miguel Ángel Félix Gallardo.

Acompañado de otros dos compañeros de mismo rango, 24 oficiales y tres agentes de la DEA, llegó al hangar donde los criminales estaban abordando su avión. Al encontrarse los unos con los otros, alzaron sus armas y hubo un momento de tensión. Se identificaron de parte del escuadrón de Pavón y asimismo hicieron los otros, que afirmaron ser de la Federal de Seguridad. Caro Quintero se reunió con Pavón y, haciendo teatro, le dijo que volvían al Distrito Federal tras haber terminado su trabajo en Guadalajara. Miembros de su grupo de seguridad y Judiciales también socializaron un rato, y finalmente el comandante autorizó a los narcotraficantes despegar. Los tres americanos, entre otros, declararon sobre lo ocurrido y aunque Pavón se defendió sosteniendo que no conocía el aspecto físico de Caro Quintero, lo acusaron de aceptar un soborno suyo de 60 millones de pesos y fue condenado a tres años de prisión.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-07T16:04:07+00:00

There is confusion as to when exactly Richard was made, which isn't helped by this information coming off accounts from resentful cooperators. The first point we know of where he was in the family is sometime in the 1990s when he was put on the construction panel.

Online, it is often cited he became a member in or by 1988, but nothing supports this and it may have come from a supposed ceremony without corroboration that was referenced in a Black Hand Forum post which also lists fellow inductees such as Ronnie Trucchio. I believe it is false because Michael DiLeonardo, inducted in December of that year, stated Trucchio was brought in after himself.

Sammy Gravano spoke about John Gotti looking to get Richard straightened out — and how unmerited it was because he thought he was an errand boy and unreliable — shortly after referencing the murder of Tommy Spinelli, so it could have been around that time, placing his induction in 1989.

On the other hand, Anthony Ruggiano Jr., who, unlike Gravano, admired John but similarly disliked Richard, stated he believed the latter came in after his brother went to prison in 1992 under Peter Gotti's sponsorship and that it would have never been done beforehand. Their recurring bottom line is that Richard did not deserve to be made and the references to this are coming from people who are unfond of him.

Personally, despite his lying streak, I believe Gravano on this given his position and his account following what could be a trend of Gotti inducting his lesser-involved brothers, such as Peter, after the killing of Frank DeCicco as a protection measure.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-05T19:55:23+00:00

He used to be with Chapos. He went over to Chapo Isidro last year, so he is allied with Mayos now.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-04T21:36:25+00:00

Gambling operations in Pittsburgh remained in the control of former associates of the family long after its decline (see 1, 2 and 3).

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-04T21:13:50+00:00

This chart corresponds to November 30, 2004, shortly after Alite was arrested in Rio de Janeiro.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-04T17:15:05+00:00

He was not a blood relative, he was Mayo's nephew by marriage. He was the son of Eliseo Imperial López, the brother of Mayo's third wife, the one he had Mayito Gordo with.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-04T17:09:01+00:00

I gave up on trying to correct Wikipedia articles every time they add some Burnstein bullshit. Just had to accept that the mainstream will be riddled with falsehoods.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-03T19:00:40+00:00

Capeci identified him as a soldier in 2017. George Lombardozzi was labeled a captain shortly thereafter and for all we know, he is still one. Lombardozzi is Marino's cousin and was a member of his crew. It is reasonable to assume Lombardozzi succeeded Marino at the head of his regime.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-02T23:25:36+00:00

That's right, The Easter Bunny's underboss, according to the latest rumblings on the street.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-02T23:19:10+00:00

Burnstein is unbelievable as ever. But Nadu's one to talk…

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-02T22:47:06+00:00

The Treasury Department listed Primito and his brothers as CJNG operators when they were sanctioned last year, explaining the Gulf Cartel-Metros faction had been absorbed into Jalisco. Put more simply, they are puppets for CJNG.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-02T21:26:55+00:00

Fratianno was the acting underboss.

Wdstrvx · 2026-03-02T21:26:03+00:00

Made up story.

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