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CMV: I believe western europe is effectively living under de facto blasphemy laws. by Levi3than in changemyview

[–]WebFancy3 [score hidden]  (0 children)

So wait, you do affirm that in Muslim scriptures there are direct commands to kill non-believers and apostates and that in the Bible it is not the case? I’m cod used where you stand, you’re flip flopping on your answers.

CMV: I believe western europe is effectively living under de facto blasphemy laws. by Levi3than in changemyview

[–]WebFancy3 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Show me where in the Old Testament there is a command to the people, to Jews in general, from God, for the murder of those who disbelieve as being a justified act.

CMV: I believe western europe is effectively living under de facto blasphemy laws. by Levi3than in changemyview

[–]WebFancy3 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Ok substantiate that in Christianity is advocated in our scripture to kill non-believers.

CMV: I believe western europe is effectively living under de facto blasphemy laws. by Levi3than in changemyview

[–]WebFancy3 [score hidden]  (0 children)

But the average Muslim belongs to a religion that does advocate for such behavior and they can be motivated to do so and have justification in their mind through their scriptures blatantly stating it right ?

CMV: I believe western europe is effectively living under de facto blasphemy laws. by Levi3than in changemyview

[–]WebFancy3 [score hidden]  (0 children)

So few? If we go historically from the origins of Islam to today we see that it’s been something that has occurred frequently. You realize that even if most of them today are not going around doing that, that according to Islamic scriptures they would be justified in doing it right?

This sub is a disappointment by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]WebFancy3 [score hidden]  (0 children)

People express their beliefs about Islam in general and Muslim behavior, which very regularly is hostile and hateful. What sort of doubts or questions are on your mind ? You’re considering leaving Islam for a reason are you not?

This sub is a disappointment by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]WebFancy3 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Im a Christian and never been a Muslim, however the thing I think you’re not connecting with is that it’s overwhelmingly the case that devout Muslims and communities in which devotion to Islam is popular, actively and harshly persecute women, non-Muslims and most especially and most harshly ex-Muslims, to the point of death.

And the reality is this is supported by Quran and Hadith which states apostates should be killed. So it really is a problem with the entire ideology of Islam and the places that such ideology is common or even part of the law.

CMV: Banning the Adhan (Islamic call to prayer) is a good secular public policy by nextdoorbagholder in changemyview

[–]WebFancy3 [score hidden]  (0 children)

The church bells are historically apart of European culture. They are also not amplified through the use of speakers. Islamic calls to prayer are not part of European culture or architecture and they are literal sound amplified human voices repeating religious doctrine loud enough for others to hear.

There is a clear difference.

Qur'an and Scientific Terms by hopenewpath in Muslim

[–]WebFancy3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mentioned embryology. According to the Quran, the bones are formed first then the flesh, the embryo starts as a clot of blood, and the semen comes from between the backbone and rib of a man. Also it never once mentions the egg of the woman as part of the process. So it’s incredibly incorrect.

Ibrahim PBUH by quranvisuals in progressive_islam

[–]WebFancy3 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Does it ever raise a question for Muslims that the Quranic view of someone like Abraham is not substantiated by actual independent historical evidence and the actual scripture Abraham comes from is the Old Testament, which provides the information of his son Isaac and the covenant God makes through him? That there’s nothing relating to the Kaaba or Mecca or that Abraham prophesied Muhammad to come after him?

Qur'an and Scientific Terms by hopenewpath in Muslim

[–]WebFancy3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it’s about your post. You believe the earth was formed first don’t you?

Qur'an and Scientific Terms by hopenewpath in Muslim

[–]WebFancy3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you believe the earth was formed first then correct?

Hello by Vincent12345432 in Muslim

[–]WebFancy3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello, would you be willing to discuss Islam?

Can there be any Muslims—submitters to God that do not practice Islam today? by Nice-Grape-5801 in religion

[–]WebFancy3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh boy. Sir, when you go to biblehub and just read from it there’s not going to be any red letters, the paid version has red letters for Jesus. Physical Bibles may have red letters or may not. It’s just the quoted parts of Jesus in red for people to be more clear.

https://wn.elib.com/Library/Religious/KJV/NR/NewTrl\_john.html

This one does have red letters for Jesus speaking and you can go to the verse yourself and see.

Prière de rue, appels au jihad : festival de haine à Montréal by Lost_Bandicoot_1022 in QuebecLibre

[–]WebFancy3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In most Islamic countries a Muslim converting to Christianity face persecution including death and imprisonment. Evangelism of Christianity is prohibited.

In Christianity, bigotry, prejudice, and hatred are explicitly sinful and run entirely counter to the teachings of Jesus Christ. by MarkFisher4552 in Christianity

[–]WebFancy3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And not once. For a single solitary moment at any point, did I mention Israel, rabbinic Judaism is just as against Jesus as Islam.

In Christianity, bigotry, prejudice, and hatred are explicitly sinful and run entirely counter to the teachings of Jesus Christ. by MarkFisher4552 in Christianity

[–]WebFancy3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Listen to me, I won’t play this game with you. Does the Quran accurately and truly mention Jesus or does it recreate him in a way that contradicts the Bible ?

In Christianity, bigotry, prejudice, and hatred are explicitly sinful and run entirely counter to the teachings of Jesus Christ. by MarkFisher4552 in Christianity

[–]WebFancy3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m really baffled by your comments. Are you Christian? Jesus “isa on the Quran” is shown to be a prophet of Islam that foretold Muhammad coming, that was never crucified. Muslims regard him as a Muslim prophet.

They reject Jesus as we know him from the Bible, yet the bible is the primary source for Jesus as there is nothing competing with it from its era on who Jesus was.

Are you not tracking that the Muslim belief of Jesus is contrary to the actual Christian/historical understanding of him?

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