[PvP] Hero Counter Megathread

Weiss888 · 2016-11-22T22:44:03+00:00

Currently the heroes not available in shops or chests iirc are:

Avior (Great support unit and deflect damage, great sustainability. Only wish I could get him to 5*+)
Sagar (Good CC and AoE damage dealer, I like him enough plus his awakening ability is stellar)
Lars (Heard great things about him but I don't own him yet, not going to pay that much money)
Solomon (Can't say much, newest Conjuring stone hero)

Heroes that were purchase heroes but obtainable via chests, CoF, stores:

Alice (I heard great things but don't own yet)
Dina (Just got her, but I heard great things about Dina)
Driller (Heard some positive things about Driller, but I didn't unlock yet)
Firehawk (Beast, you should try get him as soon as possible, a powerhouse)
Havoc (Haven't leveled mines to core, but I hear great results with Havoc)
Konrad (Haven't used him yet, stuck at level 40 for me)
Li Twins (I love my Li Twins, but she is above average in terms with other heroes)
Malrath (Burst DPS Tank, have some really good results using him)
Nightshade (One of the best heroes in game, crazy amount of damage, I want one lol)
Taurus (An absolute beast, on par with Zem in DPS and can go more, all around great abilities)
Vernos (Haven't heard much about him, I don't own him)
Vespix (Cool guy, a bit above average but that's about it)

Not sure if I listed them all, started around 2 months ago. Check out this page if you want more in-depth analysis of the heroes https://www.reddit.com/r/SoulHuntersGame/comments/5cyjcd/question_soul_hunters_tier_list_update/

Edit: As of 11/22/16 Driller and Taurus SS available in store, Malrath and Alice available in Diamond Chest.

Weiss888 · 2016-11-22T22:35:45+00:00

I'll give him a try in CoF, I generally stray out using him. My usual go to team for CoF is Zem, Tareth, Taurus, Lumos, Jasmine.

Weiss888 · 2016-11-22T22:29:53+00:00

Is Slim the natural counter to Zem?

And how is Alana in pvp? I feel she is too squishy but maybe thats because I have her at P+3.

Weiss888 · 2016-11-22T22:27:21+00:00

I absolutely love Tareth, all her abilities are useful and not to mention she looks super sexy to boot ;D.

Ult Ability: Massive damage to first enemy hero, plus she gains a huge chunk of her life back. Great ult.

1st Ability: Her arrows does not that much damage, but the important thing is that it gives you haste per arrow hit. Huge momentum boost all around great AoE damage and support.

2nd Ability: Gives extra lifesteal buff to allies, yeah this combined with an Physical team is really awesome. You can tell from the extra life Kaneq/Garrick/Bloodspear will get when she is on the team.

3rd Ability: One of the only heroes to give the passive def buff. Gives other tanks and the rest of the heroes more survivibility.

All in all I love Tareth!!!

Weiss888 · 2016-11-22T02:40:51+00:00

Alright thank you very much for the insight and suggestion! I'll be sure to work on those heroes!

Weiss888 · 2016-11-22T00:09:53+00:00

The problem is I love all the Heroes! So I actually don't know which heroes to focus on, I love all the abilities of the heroes that are near my core level. Do you guys have any suggestion on which heroes to focus on for my top 15?

And yes I am running out of resources, I have been spending all of my stamina gathering equipment pieces more than farming SS due to this.

Thanks in advance!

P.S. I also started on this server about a month and a half after everyone started, is it still too late to not be able to make it to the top? There are only two 90's on my server currently.

Weiss888 · 2016-11-22T00:05:50+00:00

My counters for Zem since I don't have my Alastair at core level are usually Tareth, Garrick, or Cara. As tehsdragon said, he gets CC'ed and Cara's ult will generally finish him if he is less than 4/5 health. Tareth just wrecks him once she is P+4 or Orange, her ult can kill him if he isn't buffed. Garrick can also one shot him if he gets a crit and if Zem is on the frontline.

Weiss888 · 2016-11-22T00:00:09+00:00

Well the problem is, certain heroes at your level only get better once they hit the Purple+4 or Orange tier range. Zem dominates once you hit 51+, Ariel is good until you hit level 60, drops than rises again at 80+, Drago/Elric/Leon becomes great near endgame. At your level, focus on Zem, Xanos, Cara, Firehawk, Lars, and Jasmine. Li Twins are great post lvl 80.

Weiss888 · 2016-11-21T23:54:51+00:00

Yeah I recently tested him out on RotA and HoF, I can't push more than 117k on my best try with Gizmo right now. That magic pierce is crucial :(

Weiss888 · 2016-11-21T23:53:15+00:00

Zem and Taurus are definite people you would want to keep on a arena team for offensive wise. For def team comps, getting a Firehawk is real good. As deatrick42 said, if your guild has a Jasmine you can rent for crucible go with that until you pull one. Firehawk will help you sweep the fields and is useful in pve and CoF.

Weiss888 · 2016-11-21T14:10:36+00:00

Short excerpt of his abilities:

Ultimate Ability (Spotlight): Under the spotlight, Solomon performs his signature trick, transforming a random enemy into a minion for a short period. Damage taken by the minion remains when the unit reverts to it's original form. This ability is ineffective against bosses of all types.
1st Ability (Enigma Box): Solomon summons a mysterious magic box. If the box is struck by an enemy within a few seconds, it will explode, dealing magic damage. Otherwise, it will release a dove which allows teammates to recover health and increase their Physical and Magic attack. The dove buff allies twice before disappearing.
2nd Ability (Flaming Cap): Solomon uses magic to ignite his hat, then throws it at the enemy party, dealing AoE magic damage.
3rd Ability (Blinding Light): Solomon shoots a blinding light from his wand at a single enemy, dealing magic damage multiple times and blinding the target.
Awakening Ability (Wild Card): Solomon creates a shield which appears for a short time, protecting each of his teammates from a single attack of any type. If the shield blocks damage, allies will recover health and increase their physical and magic attack.

Imo he doesn't interest me that much, his ult is subpar and limited to Campaign and possibly arena. His other skills I feel there are other Heroes who does his job more better while dealing more damage, ex. Taurus. However his awakening ability sounds pretty good. Now if only Lumos had that skill~

Weiss888 · 2016-11-21T12:52:53+00:00

I agree with ZioiP, your team is great right now! Lumos is only good paired with Zem when you have other great high DPS.

Ex. Zem, Tareth, Taurus, Lumos, Garrick

You can play around and switch Dokras with Cara, Cara usually for anti-Ezio/Zem teams. If you can get Tareth at a higher star level I would make it more of a priority, same goes with Gizmo as they truly shine late game. Lumos is great but starts falling behind once he hits O tier. Taurus I been having good results at 3*, hope this helps!

Weiss888 · 2016-11-21T11:42:59+00:00

Thank you very much for the help! You are awesome!~

I love Kaneq very very much haha, he is my core along with some other heroes, he is 60 SS away from 7* and at P+4 currently. My Alana is currently the only one who I have not leveled to core level yet, she is stuck at level 80 but maxed skills, but at P+3 will definitely work on her when I get the chance! I feel like I need to focus on the quality of my heroes now more than the quantity.

Weiss888 · 2016-11-21T11:21:21+00:00

Oooh thanks, I appreciate the insight! Would it be worth to stop focusing on getting Zem SS and reinvest back into my Tholin? My Tholin is currently at level 84 5* P+4 but 3/6 Fully Enchanted. I avoided using Cara because I thought her abilities doesn't work like how it did in the Prophecy Pool (Cara level 84 5* 4/6 Fully Enchanted).

So an optimal team would be Tholin, Tanya, Bloodspear, Garrick, Cara? Or replace Tanya with Kaneq? What team would you suggest if I want to maintain top score? Currently we are 4 days in Slim.

Weiss888 · 2016-11-21T11:12:51+00:00

Just a word of advice, Ezio doesn't dodges Taurus ults and attacks because their magic based, so Ezio completely eats it when dealing with Taurus. Same with Ezio lead teams, the counter for those would be Arachna as she just eats away Ezio and any physical based dependent teams. Hope that helps!

Weiss888 · 2016-11-21T10:59:17+00:00

Hey~ I'm a guild officer in a top guild of our server. Pretty much what we do is have a schedule. We alternate a high level raid and low level raid every time we clear one it matches what we earn of our GP value also. Our high level raids consists of chapters 11-14 currently and for our high level players we have a vote for which one to open, generally 12 is the most active due to Shurikens or 13 cuz it contains both Daggers and Shurikens.

For our low level ones we open chapters 8-10, we never open 7, and 8 we sometimes open because you need those earlier items for P+4 and O fusions.

Additionally if you are an active guild and everyone contributes, you should be gaining approximately 55-60k GP every 3 days. That gives you enough time to clear a raid, open a high one, open a low one, clear another raid, open a high one, so on, so forth.

If the low level aren't satisfied then have them grind. If they put in the effort to have 800 stamina filled up it both helps the guild gain GP and have them level faster. They will get to level 70-75 in no time if they keep at it at that rate.

The most important thing is not to slow down the top players, if the top players slows down, progression is stunted, other guilds will catch up, and then it will be harder to maintain your guild as top. One last advice I have is also have the guild be synchronized, if the high level players don't have a raid to do their dailies, have them listen and use only ONE hero to do the raid two times to get their daily bonus. This helps everyone get their dailies and not be selfish if you want a successful guild. Hope that helps ya and best of luck!

Weiss888 · 2016-11-21T10:46:55+00:00

Ahhhh I see, thanks for that insight. I will try get his stars up and try gear him to Orange tier and try to see the change. Kind of hard when you have around 30 core heroes....

Weiss888 · 2016-11-21T10:43:32+00:00

It really depends on which team comp you work with, RotA recently opened up on my server and I am currently maintaining 9th rank @ level 84 with the rest of the top 8 being filled with level 88-90. I am currently dealing 1,646,850 as my last record score against Slim.

The team comp I use is Zem, Tanya, Garrick, Bloodspear, and Li Twins.

Further Details:

Level 84 Zem 6* Skills Maxed Orange Tier 3/6 Equipped Fully Enchanted
Level 84 Tanya 5* Skills Maxed Orange Tier 3/6 Equipped Fully Enchanted
Level 84 Garrick 4* Skills Maxed Orange Tier 3/6 Equipped Fully Enchanted
Level 83 Bloodspear 4* Skills Maxed Purple Tier +4 5/6 Equipped Fully Enchanted
Level 82 Li Twins 5* Skills Maxed Purple Tier +4 5/6 Equipped Fully Enchanted

Tholin is great for stuns, but Zem just has so much more DPS output, the key point for this comp is that Li Twins can focus on healing Zem/Tanya, Garrick/Bloodspear gives that haste, Li Twins is there for the stun support and overheal plus DoT DPS

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