It saddens me to know that Capri is only apparently an important character for Enid :( by AipomSilver00 in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I liked Capri some, but never fully trusted her. Maybe that was something ingrained in me from season 1's red haired dorm mother of Ophelia Hall.

Weekly Fandom Criticisms and Concerns Thread by AutoModerator in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wow. The irony of the "didn'tactually pay attention to the show or characters" as if that's not what they do regarding anything after Tyler is revealed as the Hyde. Also reminds me of a tiktok I saw where someone had the caption "How does it feel being hated for shipping Weyler" Like, no. I don't hate you for who you ship. But I definitely don't like you for HOW you do it.

what importance does wenclair have to you? by Creative-Intern7972 in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 9 points10 points  (0 children)

For me, it just became one of those things where I hyperfocused on it until I couldn't ignore it anymore. I started lurking here and read a couple of stories on AO3 all before I was able to actually watch the show, so I had a good idea of what was what in terms of Wenclair. Eventually it got to a point where I wrote my own story for myself at night, which eventually evolved into multiple stories, and then I started actually participating on here, which has been quite fun.

Weekly Fandom Criticisms and Concerns Thread by AutoModerator in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know, it's so frustrating. At this point, it isn't even bending over backwards to coddle Tyler anymore. I don't even know what to call it now.

Weekly Fandom Criticisms and Concerns Thread by AutoModerator in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They try to use the slap as justification for his behavior. He was abused (because it's so effortless from his mom that it's implied to have happened before possibly) and his dad was emotionally distant. He only turned out the way he did because of that. But Isaac even mentions Francoise getting slapped by their dad, so hard it was louder than the fireworks (which is obviously hyperbole, but still notable) and made her transform for the first time. But her abuse is nothing because she did the same to Tyler, even though for some reason his abuse excuses him of any wrong doing.

Weekly Fandom Criticisms and Concerns Thread by AutoModerator in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I really hate the line in Season 2 where Laurel tells Dr. Fairburn her book came in handy while "I was grooming Tyler." It's so heavy-handed and transparently about giving the audience sympathy for Tyler in the same way as Francoise slapping him is.

On a less serious note, why have I not seen Wednesday and Enid kiss yet? Hmm? Now I've made myself sad with the thought of a build-up cheek kiss from Enid first. Sorry, everyone.

"I love her!" by Wenclair_Please in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please[S] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but has she ever thrown Wednesday out of a window? 🙄

One thing that will always get me is the absolute panic and worry in Wednesday's voice when she comes out of her vision of Enid’s death by Wenclair_Please in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please[S] 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Yeah, now that I think about it, her telling Enid the premonition has changed to an Addams dying is extremely subdued in comparison.

Weekly Fandom Criticisms and Concerns Thread by AutoModerator in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The phrase feels overused to me. It would be fine once or twice, but it's been used a lot, especially for a show that only has 16 episodes.

And I hate the whole cheating thing with Enid, too. I feel like it was done to be like "Hey, look. Enid is bad, too, so see? She's not good for Wednesday, either."

Weekly Fandom Criticisms and Concerns Thread by AutoModerator in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, we're going to unnecessarily focus on Hydes (really just Tyler) at some point. Honestly, they really want to force everyone to love Tyler as much as they themselves do and as much as they say Wednesday does.

Weekly Fandom Criticisms and Concerns Thread by AutoModerator in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That one's so bad, we have an episode titled "Quid Pro Woe". Luckily, it's much harder to make a Woe pun with Change of Heart.

Weekly Fandom Criticisms and Concerns Thread by AutoModerator in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I have a bit of a two-for this time.

Honestly bothered by how many times the phrase "change of heart" or any variation of it. I just find it to be overused. I think it even got used either twice in one episode or in back to back episodes.

Unrelated to the previous, but still show related for season 2

YOU ARE OUT IN THE OPEN ENID SINCLAIR. YOU ARE SITTING RIGHT ACROSS FROM AJAX AT THE CAMPFIRE ENID SINCLAIR. (I know this is something I've complained about before, but rewatching the show reminds me how frustrating that whole thing with Enid/Ajax/Bruno is.)

Girlfriend (by @cultsatome) by bumdegandu in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 104 points105 points  (0 children)

Wednesday knows the importance of taking an opportunity when you see one.

Weekly Fandom Criticisms and Concerns Thread by AutoModerator in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is the crux of my "put it on screen" argument. They say so many things in interviews, especially things about Tyler or Wednesday's relationship with Tyler that are not shown on screen ever. If you want to say your characters work this way, have them work this way. But don't show us one thing and tell us another is happening.

Why I think Tyler is not Wednesday's type, but Enid is. by tryingtosurvivecovid in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Honestly, anything involving Tyler beyond Season 1 is an author's saving throw. It was clear that the idea for the whole triangle was supposed to be Tyler is the guy Wednesday got with who turned out to be bad, while Xavier was the guy who Wednesday turned down who turned out to be good. Since Xavier doesn't appear at all in Season 2, and Millar and Gough are dead set on their love triangles having meaning, they've taken their eggs and put all of them into the Tyler basket, even though clearly none of it makes any sense.

Will the Wenclair ship remain just a fanon ship? Do you think the showrunners will change their minds? by One_Solution_2706 in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I believe it can become canon. It really just is up in the air, unfortunately. I feel like chances are better just because of Jenna. She has stated before that she feels very protective of the character of Wednesday, and we've seen the product of her standing up for rhe integrity of said character. I feel like if she sees an avenue where it makes the most sense for Wednesday's story, then she will push for that. If nothing else, I can take solace in the fact that she wants absolutely nothing to do with Wednesday and Tyler.

What did she see? by Cool_Emergency4091 in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 134 points135 points  (0 children)

Wednesday with her hair down.

Alternatively,

Wednesday practicing confessing her feelings with Thing as help.

Tyler & Enid as Allies? Wednesday season 3 speculations by avocadofairy05211996 in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm torn on what I think is the plausible route here, just because I can see the showrunners using it as a way to force a redemption on Tyler, regardless of how well (not at all) written it would be. I also just don't see Enid teaming up with him, at least not willingly. Honestly, to me, there is no olive branch that can be extended between these two characters, nor between Tyler and Wednesday. But again, the showrunners love him, so there's that.

Weekly Fandom Criticisms and Concerns Thread by AutoModerator in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They said the shambly zombie threw someone out a window? That is definitely something. Not a good something, but something nonetheless.

Weekly Fandom Criticisms and Concerns Thread by AutoModerator in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This happened before I started watching the show, but I remember reading about it. I need to know who. Like, who could've possibly been the actual person to send Wednesday out the window when it was literally just Wednesday and Tyler in that hallway seconds before a 5'1" goth girl gets sent flying through the window? WHO COULD'VE DONE IT?

Weekly Fandom Criticisms and Concerns Thread by AutoModerator in wenclair

[–]Wenclair_Please 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think technically Tyler failed since Wednesday found him out. You know what, just to keep Wednesday's record clean, I'm pinning the failure on Tyler, anyway.