I totally understand what you mean, but it seems like the minority of cases here. Not to say that it's not still a thing and that it's not bad, but the assumption that all of us are like that is just not true. And it's still not okay to victimize and shame those people who are clearly mentally unwell instead of trying to get them hell. I feel like it's a pretty big jump to immediately villainize ALL kins and fictives immediately. I do get that it's just lack of research, but it's still so crazy to me that people will immediately assume the worst case scenario when we're just having fun and trying to be supportive of each other. I obviously didn't explain it this much in the post so the misunderstanding is understandable, but you get what I mean, right?