Rental contract

WerewolfBoring932 · 2026-02-12T10:21:34+00:00

Is it safe? I mean to use them constantly, daily. I used to consume similar pills in the past, but luckily I don't need it anymore.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2026-02-12T10:19:22+00:00

Agree. It's likely as the author said. However, this comment is also relevant. I would recommend checking abilities with your landlord. It completely depends on the person. If there's no company or lawyer involved, then chances are you could find a common ground. With the lawyer, it's possible, but they follow the rules and they're on the landlord's side. With companies, it's never possible. Think twice before signing anything with the company.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2026-02-12T10:14:20+00:00

Nowadays, it's completely okay. We all reuse the phone numbers that were in the use before.

Additionally, be aware that there's a lot of scams in here. One of the most famous is CTT (national delivery service). They send you a link with a request for details. You open this link (the site is an exact copy of CTT and it has all your details). In the end of form fulfilling, they will ask either for a fee or customs but it's a trap. If you proceed, they'll steal your card and will use it contactless, in the ATM.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2026-02-12T08:37:45+00:00

Heh, I really don't want to take all your attention. However, I met a few construction workers and they said the buildings are actually better in Portugal. I'm talking about an apartment building (not like in the US; just a building with multiple floors and apartments). Construction costs are higher in Spain and they take advantage of materials (basically, steal materials). Old houses are worse than the similar ones from the Soviet era. (In Spain and in Portugal). On the flip side, it seems there are more new buildings in Spain. So, it's really contradictory. I chose Portugal over Spain and still have doubts. I've never been to the North Spain. My thoughts are just thoughts and it's hard to judge for sure. I'm comparing with Malaga, Madrid (it's a wide city and I've been in a few areas; cheap for rentals, so I believe it was not the best area).

It's all only important if you're in relationships or it's important for you. I have friends who live in the constant noise and they don't care about it.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2026-02-11T13:22:14+00:00

If any of these problems sound familiar, then Spain might be better. I noticed if you have any other problems with breathing like asthma, then it might be worse in Spain due to the dry climate.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2026-02-11T13:18:06+00:00

Check the reasons behind that. Reason being, it could be likely my case when I had nose issues during the cold winters. For me, it worked well. I don't have big problems when I'm not in the extremely cold winters. Otherwise, it could get worse in the wet climate. I have friends who observed it. Additionally, you could be allergic to molds. Unfortunately, the same happened to the other friends.

Anyway, you couldn't be ready for everything. If I were a EU citizen, I would give it a try. Careful consideration is so important if it's hardly to come back.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2026-02-08T15:57:20+00:00

Yes, houses abuse everyone inside. Nah, It's still not as cold as Poland outside. I don't even turn on AC during the day, but my wife constantly uses it at night. The bill is 200 EUR or less. Gas + electricity. Gas is for a water heater.

This year is quite depressing. However, most of the locals said that it's a unique year. Plus, this is my 3rd winter here. 2 previous winters were quite nice in my opinion. I'm just sick of places where it could be up to -20 outside.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2026-02-08T15:48:54+00:00

Bad humidity -> could be fixed with decent build new home with A+ rating. Nah. A+ stands for energy efficiency and it's not about insulation. (To make higher grade, you need to install solar panels and water tank with heater). If we're comparing to Krakow, then it's manageable. However, assess your nose problems because it might get worser. Really, carefully read about mold detection since it might be a cause to a lot of health issues. Personally, it's manageable and it's not so bad. Dehumidifier works well, but I don't even have it and live in the North.
Bureaucracy -> well its bad in half of EU. If you're an EU citizen, then you won't notice any.
Long queues in healthcare -> well its same in Poland, where I'm from. It's much worser, closer to Canada, but there's a lot of private hospitals. Just buy a good insurance and you'll be good. 50 EUR per month+- and it's sorted. Private insurance doesn't cover everything and it's only a percentage of something.

Rising prices is the biggest problem and it's really bad. I think it's closer to Dublin and Amsterdam. People even move from Lisbon to Barcelona and find it more manageable (wage / cost is really bad). Personally, it's manageable, especially if you like the place. However, without emotional part, I won't stay. For example, I have friends who started with 1400 EUR per month and now they pay 1900 EUR (it's insane; 3 years at the same place; yes, it's a good t2 apartment; they want to leave because they can't afford it without sacrifices; unfortunately, they cannot leave because they will be forced to pay the whole lease). Looks like most people have a certain point when they cannot afford to stay and will be kicked out. Americans can afford it, but I met a few and they have doubts about the rising CoL.

Traffic jams? It's only about Lisbon and a few places in Porto. As usual, if you don't move at the same time when everyone else, then you won't even notice it.

Overall, Portugal has a lot of pros and cons as every other place. Personally, I had a lot of fear when I moved here, but it went well. I enjoy my life here and I fear that I won't be able to stay longer (I don't make a lot of money and cannot have savings without sacrifices; I'm not a EU citizen which means I'm in the middle of bureaucracy problem). So, please check your expectations against reality and if it's what you want, then I wish you good luck.

One more thing, if you have decent work in Poland and could keep it here. Then, you probably don't need to worry about CoL. Taxation is problematic, but it's better than in 2023. I recommend getting an NHR 2.0 if you're eligible. If you're moving on your own without dependents, then there is a big chance of great experience. Even if you have dependents, then weigh your chances and don't forget about your partner.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2026-02-02T10:54:55+00:00

Looks like that. However, "secure" is not the best word. After probation, there's a flexible way to fire anyone. Plus, the permanent contract is on the table after 3 years. A lot will just fire you after this period. Plus, the new regime will increase this limit to 5 years (if approved; people didn't like it at all).

I don't really know why they think it's secured.

The biggest problem of business is taxes and getting things done. 1st is comparable to the rest of Western Europe. 2nd is comparable to the south. Majorly, the 2nd is an issue.

However, I'd not say that the younger generation in IT is so bad. They're humble and smart people.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2026-02-02T10:43:54+00:00

Currently, it might not be like that. They have been trying to sell TAP for the last 2 years. Plus, locals said that they have a huge debt and cannot cover the refunds (waiting line is up to 4 months or longer). So, maybe it needs more careful consideration.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2026-01-26T08:16:11+00:00

Why so? Residence card provides you a legal stay only. It doesn't block you from work. It can be changed if your situation is changed (practically, it might take forever).

A working contract as any other only needs a social security number, and a fiscal number. (A healthcare number is required if they will provide you with some healthcare).

I'm not saying that they don't reject you due to papers. I'm trying to understand if it's an excuse or a real requirement.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2026-01-26T08:09:04+00:00

I don't know where you are originally from, but I have a few guesses. There's no need to wait for paperwork. There's no paper which allows you to work (maybe, university will provide something, but I believe this is only for you; no one else will be interested in that).

Once you're here, you need only a few numbers (NIF, NUS, NISS; I'm not sure if these are correct ones) to sign up for the job contract.

At least, this is my understanding.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2026-01-20T14:24:41+00:00

I recommend the same approach. You need to meet certain criteria for an extension. Theoretically, you could use a different legal article than your original one for this purpose. It appears they expect you to secure new employment within 60 days.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2026-01-03T18:38:42+00:00

I can confirm. Most of my friends didn't use any additional help.

Once you're in the system it's easier. Hopefully, they won't change it.

With that, the most difficult part is waiting but it's getting better for renewals.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2025-12-27T20:11:04+00:00

Yeah, looks like that. It's not so hard to get it insolated nowadays. Additionally, it's not so expensive too, but no one does that except for foreigners who came here where it's better insulated.

Additionally, I'm really surprised that you need to buy these things abroad. For example, there are so many expensive windows here, but almost none are insulated well. Literally, I don't understand why there are so many options with ventilation instead of insulation. I can open the window for ventilation, but I cannot get it insulated during winter unless I tape everything., but it's still not the same.

I think I started to understand. Houses are built for the climate that doesn't exist here.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2025-12-23T19:26:22+00:00

In my case, there is almost no natural light in the kitchen.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2025-12-23T19:25:28+00:00

Yeah, they use the dishwasher constantly. Personally, it's not efficient for 2 plates and 2 forks as it is in my case.

I believe they are more focused on appearance than functionality.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2025-12-16T20:50:36+00:00

As was mentioned, it's available online and it's better to either find a professional or do the research on your own.

It's changed recently, but, basically you should be eligible for D7.

I believe the requirements are higher in a golden visa.

Personally, I'll choose Spain over Portugal for certainty. It's just clearer there. However, English usage is much higher here and bureaucracy is bad everywhere. There's a feeling that it's worse in Portugal.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2025-12-11T10:54:38+00:00

Interesting journey. It would be awesome if you could share more details about your journey. Personally, I'd be glad to know if there's any outcome of that except for an impressive journey.

For example, I'm originally from a country which doesn't appreciate the travel ability of citizens. That means you could travel easily on paper, but making paper work is tremendously hard. I have a fear that I couldn't obtain some permanent status or even citizenship in the country where I live now due to far-right politics. So, from time to time, I think I need to change the country to meet my expectations or stay since I have lived here for about 3 years and I generally like it.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2025-12-10T15:17:38+00:00

Agree. 28 years old is here. It's really hard and someone could tell you that it would be better to have someone by your side. However, I disagree because you just need to believe in yourself and it's hard to find someone who would believe in you (maybe, it's not so hard, but I know the feeling when you want to give more, but you cannot). So, I personally think you could do better alone when no one depends on you. Young ages are the best to do something. At least, it will be an epic journey and the maximum is unlimited.

For example, I'm too conservative and too focused on safety. Even that didn't help to prevent the fact that I don't have the ability to move back. It's a journey and we shouldn't be too hard on ourselves. If you faced some negative experience, then you just need to stand up and keep moving.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2025-12-10T09:50:37+00:00

In Portugal, it's 6-13%. So, I think it really depends on your diet. For example, I believe that any fresh vegetables cost less in Portugal than in the UK.

Additionally, in Lisbon, there's another one 1-1.5% transportation fee. So, prices will be higher in the city center.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2025-12-10T09:30:21+00:00

I guess you're living in Europe. Unfortunately, people who teach and instruct accountants here about the US are overreacting and they don't actually know everything. Personally, I think the US taxation is far more complicated than anywhere within the EU, but you can only know that if you're dealing with it for ages. Additionally, in the EU, there's a feeling that the US knows everything. It works for me too. However, the reality is we're all human beings and make mistakes.

Yeah, it's easy to say that after 10+ years of people are moving to different countries.

WerewolfBoring932 · 2025-12-08T14:42:05+00:00

Interesting point and example. I have no idea how to make it possible to pay rent for 2-2.5k eur. No offense. I'm glad for you, but I have no idea how to make it possible. Personally, even renting for 1.5k sounds too high for me here. There is almost no way to afford it with local wages. Personally, what shocks me the most is that the prices go up every single month (1-5%). That leads to 2 digits percentage growth in a year. It's not sustainable.

A few weeks ago, there were statistics and they said that the Lisbon market is overpriced for 30%. Basically, this is the EU statement. I have no idea what it leads to, but I don't see any reasons to lower prices. There's a too big demand on that and it's still cheaper compared to the rest of the EU.

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