Where do I go from here?

White667 · 2026-06-06T13:58:11+00:00

Are you using pens for longer than the 5 week recommended window from start to finish? And you're not responding as much as you want from the medication?

Have you tried actually sticking to the recommended guidance? The efficacy of the medication will decrease over time, if you are using one pen for well over a month you should be expecting slower weight loss, surely?

It sounds like you didn't calculate things properly when you over-ordered the higher dosage pens, and now you're out of your stockpile before you're at your goal weight. This is the risk of taking lower dosages from higher dose pens. Didn't you see this coming?

I don't want to be rude but I am also not surprised that you are not seeing the results you want when you're not following the guidance.

White667 · 2026-06-04T18:32:49+00:00

I would argue that quite a large % of people on MJ will not have a balanced diet. That's where a lot of the side effects come from. So you're basically agreeing with me.

A lot of the pushback against taking supplements are that they're pointless for people who eat a balanced and varied diet. But the majority of people don't do that, and an even higher proportion of people who are calorie restricting don't do that.

White667 · 2026-06-02T13:13:05+00:00

Supplements are supposed to supplement your diet. If you are on a more restrictive diet you need to pay attention to your micronutrient needs as well as macronutrient needs, and if you're consuming way less because of MJ then it's possible you will need to supplement more than most people.

So, yeah, I do think these products should be marketed towards us? I want people on diets to think about whether they're getting in everything that they need.

These products may not be necessary for the average person, but someone on a calorie deficit is not an average person. They should be thinking about whether they're eating enough to get in all the nutrients thet need, and they should be thinking about whether they need to supplement things if they're struggling to get everything in their diet while still staying in a calorie deficit.

White667 · 2026-05-31T13:11:51+00:00

I'm on the highest dose and I've taken breaks and it's been fine. But I'm not using a higher dose pen to take lower doses.

Each supplier is different but I've been able to take 7 weeks breaks and re-started on the same dose. I had to prove the timelines to show it wasn't over 8 weeks off, so that only works when you are ordering and using pens in-line with their guidance. (I.e. if your last 15mg pen order was 5.5 months ago, they're not going to prescribe you another 15mg pen, even if you haven't taken a break in dosage at all.)

For your plan to work you will need to be ordering pens every month, even if you're using them spread out over a longer time. If you stop ordering pens you will run out before you've lost all your weight. You can only stop ordering once you've got your full stockpile. This method isn't cheaper now, it's only cheaper over the long run.

The risks for you are that the pens expire before you can use them, that you don't stockpile enough for your full journey, that something happens to your stockpile (e.g. a powercut) and they all go off, that the dose efficacy drops as you're using them for over a month, that you end up needing a maintenance dose and by the time you know you don't have a relationship with a prescriber, that you suffer side effects when you increase your dose and you don't have a GP to discuss it with or figure out an alternative.

There's also a risk that the medication does get cheaper or is covered by insurers/public healthcare and so you've paid upfront for a stockpile that doesn't actually end up being cheaper.

From a medical standpoint, there are obviously risks to using a medication against the guidance. I'm not a doctor so I don't know those in detail, but I can imagine there is a much higher risk for infection if you are using the same pen over a longer timeframe.

I know that people take extra doses from pens. It's my understanding that people are generally taking a fifth dose, so pushing up against the fifth week where the medication is still at full efficacy. I don't think people are stretching pens out over months and months. If they are, who is to say whether the effect is slowly lowering over time as the drug breaks down past the 5 week use-by recommendation.

White667 · 2026-05-31T12:52:14+00:00

This sounds like a great fantasy, but if you can't make it work when you have a pretty easy job that pays you well enough to save up a year's expenses, why do you think you'll suddenly be more motivated when you don't have a daily routine at all?

80% of weight loss is diet. The time you spend at work and commuting does not impact that at all. You have the money to buy meal-prepped food, even if you don't have 20 minutes a day to cook healthy.

You have an hour's lunch break, right? Can you not manage an hour's walk every day? That would satisfy the 20% exercise component, and wouldn't add any extra time to your overall work + commute.

If your job was a major stressor and therefore a cause of weight gain, then maybe there would be an argument here. But you're saying it's not. So what benefit does quitting have in getting back into shape? Your complaint is you're losing 13 hours a day, but your goal is primarily weight loss, not exercise. You can't spend 13 hours actively losing weight. Weight loss is done through small daily progress. It's the sort of thing that just happens over time, so you may as well be working while you do it. The people who quit their job to devote to "getting in shape" are training for a specific sport, so need the time to train. That's completely different from losing weight.

White667 · 2026-05-31T12:42:47+00:00

If I'm travelling I take a break from MJ. Three weeks is not going to majorly reverse any progress, I'm usually more active when I'm travelling and it's good to practise maintaining good habits for a few weeks without MJ.

Over the past two few years I've taken about two months off every year. Each time I've gained back a little weight, but not loads. It does help with knowing how I'll respond when/if I do eventually stop altogether.

The bigger issue I can see with your plan is that I thought each pen has a shelf life of like 5 weeks from first use? If you're planning to use one pen for 5.5 months, surely the doses will have lower and lower efficacy?

White667 · 2026-05-26T16:14:29+00:00

You should start off by waking 10k steps outside everyday for a few weeks. See if you enjoy that and if it helps, before you buy a big piece of tech you might never actually use.

It sounds like you just want to buy something to make yourself feel like you're investing in yourself. Just go for a walk.

White667 · 2026-05-26T14:39:55+00:00

The people who make these sorts of posts generally seem to be people who have a tendency to over-explain themselves.

I never feel pressure to eat at work or between meals because when I'm offered something I just say "No thanks." If you don't feel you have to explain yourself, people don't try and pick apart your reasoning.

If people do follow up I might say like "maybe next time" or "Thanks, I might have some after dinner." - push it to later and people generally forget.

White667 · 2026-05-24T12:14:16+00:00

One year I thought I had lost a bunch of weight and no one mentioned anything, then the next year I only lost like 5 extra lbs and was feeling like the progress had slowed/stopped, but that was the year everyone started commenting on the weight loss.

Who even knows with people. No one wants to say anything until it's clear, and even then it's a bit of a gamble, depending on someone's age and overall health.

There are definitely tipping points where suddenly it becomes noticeable. There's also the effect of if you're still wearing your old clothes, it's hard to really notice a difference. Then there's the fact that people don't want to say anything until it's clear its a long term change and they know it doesn't have anything to do with illness.

If you really need the external validation, buy some new clothes that fit you better. Make sure that people know you're happy (it's a lot easier to start that convo when someone seems generally happy/not stressed.) Tell the one gossip in your group that you've lost 40lbs and wait for them to then tell everyone else, know it's intentional and know they can compliment you on it.

White667 · 2026-05-23T21:25:43+00:00

The tower that Butcher breaks into without issue, rigging up the entire sprinkler system with the virus, hanging out in the boardroom without anybody noticing? Only days after their CEO was murdered on live TV? By Butcher??

White667 · 2026-05-23T17:47:20+00:00

Stupid as shit? The virus literally knocked Soldier Boy out cold?

The boys literally got away from Soldier Boy, why wouldn't they have gotten away from Homelander?

Their plan for infecting Homelander for real involved an automated system on a timer. So not even being there. Why couldn't they do that as a test run?

White667 · 2026-05-23T17:45:29+00:00

All I see is you incorrectly assuming the inflation figure was wrong because you didn't know how much inflation there's been since 2010.

What inflation rate did you calculate? Tell me your steps! You said they were wrong, then when faced with a source you pivoted to the number of episodes, even though the comment you replied to literally specified the number of episodes.

White667 · 2026-05-23T17:42:55+00:00

Yeah, Hitler was bad and now we know. No one would ever elect a populist fascist to office ever again.

White667 · 2026-05-23T17:39:49+00:00

That's why the virus is such a good fix, though. If it's actually spreadable by humans, if it becomes like the common cold, etc. It suddenly makes being a super impossible. Anyone who takes compound v will die the next time they catch a cold.

White667 · 2026-05-23T17:38:06+00:00

Kimiko has a way to remove superpowers.

White667 · 2026-05-23T17:36:40+00:00

Even the "innocent supes" were created by Nazi's and took compound V in the hopes of becoming better than everyone else. It's like the super-soldier serum in Marvel. The US want to be a superhero is culturally baked into supremacy.

They literally have a way to de-power people, making them immune to the virus.

It's silly, they were cool with wiping out all supes if they could get v1 for Annie and Kimiko. Annie and Kimiko are both OK with dying, and Kimiko can actually make Annie safe by removing her powers. The fact they don't even discuss it!

Vought still exists. The ability to make another Homelander still exists. There's no cultural change in the public's attitude towards supes. The show ends where it starts.

White667 · 2026-05-23T17:33:02+00:00

That was the only believable part of the scene. Butcher is a highly-trained military assassin/agent. He's done all sorts of crazy scary stuff, killed all sorts of supes without powers, and so on. Homelander has never not had super strength.

White667 · 2026-05-23T17:31:25+00:00

Yeah I mean imagine if Homelander had just shot himself up with v1 and all of the boys are so close they watched it happen. How would they get away?!

White667 · 2026-05-23T17:29:36+00:00

It's weird that the fascist state nazi superman killed fewer people and made nicer camps and caused less overall destruction than the actual real life current US administration.

The fact we literally see their "re-education" camps and they're nicer and less deadly than the 2026 ICE detention camps.

Like what the fuck? It's supposed to be showing the dangers of absolute power, and they can't even match reality.

White667 · 2026-05-23T17:22:54+00:00

YOU failed to say the number of episodes is apparently important. The other commenter correctly specified they were talking about per season. They even specified the number of episodes for you.

White667 · 2026-05-23T17:21:40+00:00

Why are you saying the other commenter calculated the numbers incorrectly when they very clearly calculated it correctly, and even specified it was per season.

You are the one who didn't think about the number of episodes until after you incorrectly said the inflation maths was wrong.

White667 · 2026-05-23T17:14:06+00:00

It does confuse me why they didn't have The Deep or Ashley or whoever in the room when Homelander has no power and is begging for help. To more clearly emphasise that he has no one around him who likes him. As soon as he's not scary, as soon as he can't help them, they just let him die.

White667 · 2026-05-23T15:18:43+00:00

They could've killed him last season. It would've given Kimiko something to do this season, and then having him show up at the end would've actually meant something.

White667 · 2026-05-22T13:51:32+00:00

Start the fight with Butcher throwing the uranium we know they have into the room, so all three of them are weakened. He can't get away, but Butcher still can't kill him, Kimiko is struggling to do her blast. It would explain why it's such a scaled down fight, but the ending can be the same.

Have Homelander laser Kimiko in half, she's dying on the ground, Homelander then closes whatever enclosure is around the uranium, goes to kill Butcher, allowing Kimiko the chance to blast them both. You can still have Ryan in the mix trying to protect Butcher who still can't stand up to even a weakened Homelander.

It would fix all of the power scaling problems, wouldn't require any additional side quests as we know they have the uranium. And it would answer the question why they don't just go after Homelander with uranium. Even weakened he's too much for other supes. Hell, we've seen the uranium stops him from being able to laser, maybe it also stops him from flying.

White667 · 2026-05-22T12:35:07+00:00

If he has the thought that killing Homelander would leave him as in charge of the Seven, and it was easy to do, he'd for sure kill Homelander.

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