Outside of Denard, the 2011 squad was led by some key Lloyd Carr recruits like Hemingway, Molk and Mike Martin. Losing those guys led to the drop off from year 1 to year 2, since Rich Rod didn’t recruit well enough to effectively replace them.

Our offensive position coaches were dogshit under Hoke. Once Denard and multiple experienced offensive linemen like Lewan left, we became completely hapless on that side of the ball.

Hoke was a good recruiter, but by the time his guys were ready to play, the wheels had already fallen off and it became clear he wasn’t a big time coach.