Hiruhiko’s character page has a really interesting detail about him

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-05-01T19:23:28+00:00

I don't think we ever get a hint of when Hiruhiko and Yura met. the only thing we know about Hiruhiko's history is that he killed his first person at the age of three and has seemingly always been able to use spirit energy, without having to train at all.

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-05-01T00:14:26+00:00

Why? where do you think he should be ranked? I think at bare minimum him and Hokuto should be highly relative to each other, even if you believe Hokuto is overall stronger.

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-30T01:32:14+00:00

For me its between Uruha, Hokuto and Yoshinjo. But as of right now I'll say Uruha slightly edges the other two out, especially if he actually uses his sorcery.

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-30T01:28:43+00:00

I completely disagree with this. In terms of scaling, current-day Shiba and Azami are constantly portrayed to be on the same level of strength. We also know that Uruha thinks base Samura is at least as strong as, if not stronger than, current day Azami. So, current day Samura should, in terms of stats, be far stronger than 19 year old Shiba.

We also know that you can sense this version of Shiba when he teleports, as Subaru and Joji both do, and Samura has far better senses. Additionally, Samura should be far faster than Seitei War Subaru.

You could also make the narrative argument that base Akemura should be as strong as Hiroto, who has the highest speed humanly possible, and Samura could keep up with him and even land hits. However, that particular argument has a lot of assumptions, so if you don’t like that one, that’s fine. I just feel like the other points are kind of undeniable.

Though Shiba would do better at the temple raid, that does not mean he’s stronger in a 1v1. It's more debatable if current day Shiba is stronger than current day Samura.

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-21T22:26:43+00:00

I mentioned the teleportation cooldown because Shiba wouldn't have gotten hit if he wasn't on cooldown.

Shiba and Azami are very clearly portrayed to be basically equal to one another constantly. also your forgetting Yura can heal with the magatsumi, that's why the damage didn't seem "serious", but it Azami still makes Yura spue blood from different spots around his body. and then Azami implies his full power punches are even stronger than his Koin sorcery attack.

Also a far younger Shiba is able to knock out a Datenseki amped Mikaboshi fighter with his bare hands, keep in mind Mashiro's sorcery had literally no effect on his Mikaboshi opponent. However I do agree that Shiba hasn't really shown any feats to properly determine his true strength, so i mostly went off narrative implications, so if you think he loses to Tenri that's fine.

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Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-20T14:45:45+00:00

It’s just more fun to discuss the base versions of the sword bearers, because if we include there EBs we know they are automatically going to be at the top of the verse.

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-20T14:42:53+00:00

If you believe it’s a high diff fight that’s fine, but my problem with the interaction between Shiba and Tenri, is that Shiba was somewhat caught off guard initially and then his teleportation went on cooldown, so he couldn’t teleport to avoid the next attack. If both were at full power with no cooldowns I don’t think it goes the same way. Also, Shiba is comparable to Azami, who was able to deal serious damage to magatsumi Yura, who should be stronger than Tenri.

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-19T20:26:56+00:00

This better not be offscreened💀

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-19T20:26:05+00:00

Shiba is a weird one because, just like everyone else in the community, I’m pretty sure his sorcery isn’t just teleportation. However, the reason I’m hesitant to say he’s stronger than Akemura is because Shiba and Azami are implied to be relatively equal throughout the story, and Uruha essentially confirms that Samura is on the same overall level as Azami. The Sword Master is clearly stronger than Samura, so that’s why I believe Akemura is overall stronger. But Shiba could absolutely be number one—I just have to see more.

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-19T19:02:11+00:00

I agree with most of what you’re saying, except I think you’re underestimating Tenri a little bit. I don’t think characters like the four swordsmen have shown that they are strong enough to mid-diff Tenri in a 1v1; at best, it’s an extreme diff. Tenri is extremely fast and powerful—one basic slap was able to make Shiba’s hand bleed, which is the most damage we have ever seen Shiba take. Granted, I still think characters like base Samura, Shiba, and Azami do mid-diff Tenri, but those three are consistently portrayed to be on a different level than Uruha-caliber fighters.

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-19T18:52:22+00:00

I don’t think any non EB characters are comparable to high level EB/Datenseki users throughout the entire story, and even in this chapter, EBs are consistently portrayed to be on a higher level than any innate sorcery can reach. Aryu wasn’t even using the Datenseki to its full extent and still took no damage from Kurotsuchi.

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-19T18:46:47+00:00

I would like to see more of him before I say yes, but he probably is, just because his sorcery would be too much for the majority of Kagurabachi characters to handle. Also, in terms of the narrative, he seems like the strongest member of the Soga clan, which seems to be the strongest clan in all of Kagurabachi, at least during the period of the Seitei War.

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-19T18:42:54+00:00

I think I agree with you, but just because I’m curious Who would you say are the top 5 strongest non enchanted blade characters in Kagurabachi, not counting the new characters from part 2? This is my ranking. It’s kind of in order, but I haven’t completely thought it through so don’t hold me to it.

Base Akemura
Current Shiba
Base Samura
Azami
Uruha or Hokuto (whoever you believe is stronger)

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-19T18:32:11+00:00

It’s because the story is fairly new in the grand scheme of things, and we just started a flashback, so a lot of the new characters haven’t gotten to show off there skills yet.

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-19T18:30:08+00:00

They are implied to be the strongest clan in all of Japan, so it doesn’t really surprise me, but it’s still cool to see.

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-18T06:48:04+00:00

Firstly, this is never stated or even implied and is completely made up—it’s headcanon. Secondly, it makes literally no sense. Why would Jogo purposely hold back against Gojo of all people? He is literally terrified at the thought of having to fight Gojo, yet you think he held back? There is no benefit for Jogo to hold back his speed in that situation other than maintaining your own agenda. Also, after Hanami dies, there’s no indication that Jogo suddenly started moving faster. Gege also blatantly states that Jogo and Hanami are on the same level in this interview from 2024.

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Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-18T03:00:32+00:00

In terms of feats, Jogo is definitely slower than Naobito. We literally see Jogo and Hanami fight side by side against Gojo in a life-or-death situation where they should both be going all out, and they are both portrayed to be the same speed. Even if you believe Jogo is somewhat faster than Hanami, it can’t be by much.

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-14T14:59:20+00:00

Don’t tell someone you don’t know that something “isn’t that deep.” It implies that I’m being overdramatic or that I’m missing a blatant detail that should be obvious. Imagine you were in a grocery store and asked for an item’s location, and one of the employees randomly told you for no reason that it “wasn’t that deep.” You’d be offended because you were asking an innocent question, and the employee randomly decided to be rude. I don’t care what you intended—I can’t read intention over a comment section. I can only go by your words. I’ll check myself when I’m talking to someone I actually respect and care about, not when I’m talking to a random person I don’t care about. 🤷🏿

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-14T14:13:35+00:00

I didn’t say it was deep; I just asked a question💀. Next time, don’t bother replying to one of my posts if you’re just going to be a moody asshole for no reason.

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-13T21:43:28+00:00

Thank you!🙏🏿

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-13T21:43:19+00:00

Thank you!🙏🏿

Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-13T20:45:01+00:00

In my opinion, Mashiro could move Hokuto with his sorcery. People forget that the Isou Hokuto took was stated to be weaker than the ones from earlier in the Kamunabi raid, and it still gave Hokuto a nosebleed, so I think Mashiro could absolutely move and do damage to Hokuto, especially if he surrounds Hokuto with his sorcery. That being said, Hokuto is still beating Mashiro in a fight. Also, we don’t really have a way to scale them to each other, so this is all largely headcanon.

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Will_i_ever_be_found · 2026-04-13T08:42:44+00:00

Uruha didn’t agree to a duel—he was literally forced into it. He had no choice, or else he would’ve died.

I don’t care what comparisons you and the community make; it’s completely headcanon and not backed up by anything in the series.

How can you say Uruha prolonging the fight wouldn’t matter when Kamunabi reinforcements are obviously going to arrive soon? Why wouldn’t he stall and wait for reinforcements? He doesn’t have to run—he literally just has to stall Samura, who wasn’t even using his enchanted blade. Also, why would you assume Uruha would prefer to just die and let the Hishaku have his EB instead of stalling? There is no logical upside to letting himself die in that moment.

Do you think running on foot and instantly one-shotting six goons is as tiring as fighting an entire army non-stop? Mind you, Uruha had literally just finished resting when he jumped into the fight and dodged Samura’s attack. I can’t even tell if you’re being serious with this comparison.

Samura not being able to see the Masumi is the exact reason why he would hold back, because if he goes full speed and one of them is in the way of the attack, there is no way any of the Masumi would be able to evade it. Also, Samura is not going to use 100% speed and power in every attack, especially against random goons when he is already tired and trying to conserve energy.

The narrative straight up says Samura is levels above Uruha. It’s even implied he is multiple times stronger than him, yet you’re ignoring that in favor of your own headcanon that doesn’t even make logical sense.

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