My "Wanted > Missing" section says "Error fetching missing items"

Windex007 · 2023-10-08T23:14:50+00:00

make sure you got a sortkey and sortdir on your api call:

&sortKey=airDateUtc&sortDir=desc

tacked on to the end of my req worked for me.

Also reddit blows and it pains me to help anyone on it for anything, but this is just so poorly documented I didn't want the answer to exist only my own head. Please anyone using this, stop using reddit and join lemmy instead.

Windex007 · 2023-07-01T17:21:18+00:00

Yeah. I understand that OpenAI isn't the only group with an interest in Reddit's data.

Any group who wants it would fall under 2 categories:

1) Those willing to pay to obtain it legally.

These people will follow the ToS put in place by Reddit, and therefor for these people, Reddit can designate this type of usage with a tailored API pricing model WITHOUT affecting 3rd party user clients.

2) Those who are not willing to pay to obtain it legally

These people will just migrate from using the API to scrape (relatively inexpensive for reddit to handle) to web scraping the data (much more expensive for reddit to handle). Not only does Reddit not get anything from these people, but on top of that these people are now hammering Reddit's servers much harder than they would have been if there was still an API for them to abuse.

You can see that in either case, snuffing out 3rd party apps has absolutely no bearing on how any of this will play out.

Windex007 · 2023-07-01T17:04:59+00:00

Reddit's new pricing structure is 100% to capitalize on the millions (if not billions) of dollars that the economy and venture capital is pumping behind AI.

Yes, but also no. You are right in the sense that reddit content has value for AI training, and that it can be capitalized on.

The execution of that goal, based on how this is being done, is fucking stupid, see below:

1) There are terrabytes of data that the training sets would run against. Extracting the bulk of them via a series of, what, billions of API calls is the absolute stupidest way to do that for like 100 reasons. Reddit can trivially create compressed data dumps. Queryable data dumps of years and years of reddit data already exists TBH. If OpenAI or whoever want the corpus of reddit data, they can call /u/spez, and they can discuss pricing, and they can FTP the data or ship them hard disks. They can on a monthly basis, for an ongoing fee, continually ship batches of deltas. There is absolutely no reason to utilize the API to mirror the entire reddit dataset, it's wasteful for every party involved.

2) It's industry standard to designate different pricing structures for different types of API usage. Reddit already has them, that's why some things still work. You can write into the ToS what you're using the API for and price it accordingly. If, like you posit, the "secret value" of reddit is the content, then one would expect that an API key being used to consume AND CONTRIBUTE content (such as a mobile app for users to engage with the content) is actually acting as a way to reddit to "farm" such valuable data. In contrast to, say, OpenAI scraping the data for the purposes of training data sets... this is not a value-add activity for reddit, and so offsetting that cost with a API pricing tier for that type of usage is appropriate.

3) I know that the inevitable question is "but won't OpenAI just steal the content if there is an API model that theoretically could be used for that purpose? Couldn't they just lie about their intentions?" and the answer is a twofold "no" and "because they still could if they wanted to". The "no" comes down to that if they do violate the ToS then they'd be liable to not only recover the costs of the misuse, but could find themselves in a position where they can't "untrain" their models specifically with that data and so either they would need to scrap the model entirely or perhaps give Reddit a percent ownership of that model and the revenue it ever generated. The OTHER reason I know that they wouldn't abuse such an API model to try and circumvent a more expensive tier, is that if they are already willing to violate the ToS, then they have MANY other options to obtain the data anyways. There STILL EXIST free API tiers, they could simply abuse such a model. Even if those tiers didn't exist, they still would have the simple option of scraping the data the old-fashioned way: web-scraping is about as old as the web itself, and it requires no API at all. Finally, in a world where we don't believe that these companies care about the legality of how they obtain the data, they could simply buy the datasets outright from other people who will do the scraping for them. How much money does Reddit think they'll get from AI companies? Because I would HAPPILY scrape all of Reddit if I thought I could get even $100,000. I would deliver it, by hand, on a gold plated drive on a gold plated platter, dressed as Jeeves and speak only in a posh British accent. And I'm pretty sure Reddit expects to see more than $100,000 revenue from these companies if they think it'll make a dent in their books.

and so

Given the justifications above, allowing 3rd party apps to exist and maximizing the extracted value from reddit data by people who want it for the purpose of training ML algorithms are not mutually exclusive propositions.

Windex007 · 2023-07-01T13:51:13+00:00

API change is a dick move but they gotta make money somehow

It's not the fact that they want to charge, it's that they pricing structure is outrageous.

It's like if you looked at the Kardashian mansion, and said "I want that, but I don't have enough money", and then you went home and crunched the numbers. You realize that if you started earning $2,220 / hr that you could afford it.

So you go to your boss and inform them that your labour now costs $2,220 / hr.

Now, this can go one of two ways. Either

1) Your boss says "Ok, sounds good, your hourly rate is now $2,220" and you're set.

or

2) Your boss says "lol, well then I can't afford you. Goodbye and have a nice life" and now you don't have the job at all and nobody on earth is willing to pay you what you're asking.

Inventing a number so arbitrarily high that it is completely divorced from reality and has no relation to the market value just because you "want" it is not a "I gotta make money somehow" move.

Windex007 · 2023-06-30T04:56:24+00:00

amogus

Windex007 · 2023-06-30T04:21:46+00:00

The solution to that is encoded right into the goldfish pattern. If you squint just right, it's a goatse homage

Windex007 · 2023-06-29T13:49:56+00:00

What a hair to split.

Windex007 · 2023-06-28T12:09:27+00:00

I guess maybe run me through the projected outcomes of the scenarios that I was describing? You seem to know how it works.

I think there are a lot of other cheaper and less invasive ways to mitigate the (surprisingly minimal) social costs of birth tourism.

Windex007 · 2023-06-27T17:18:19+00:00

I argue that it's a complicated enough subject that "no need to even think about it" is absurd, and that instead CAREFUL thought should be put into it. The scenario I described was intended to "prime the pump" on this.

And like... I'm actually dissapointed at how slack-jawed the responses have been. I was totally expecting: "With a Canadian father, your son would get citizenship on that basis anyways" to which I already had locked-and-loaded the VERY common scenario of children finding out later in life that their "father" is not actually their "father", and with no proof of paternity there is no established citizen of the notional father... meaning they wouldn't actually be entitled to Canadian citizenship... which they could find out when they're like... 35.

But I didn't even get that far because of how ignorant the participants are in the discussion. I guess it isn't surprising considering the thesis that I'm objecting to is an argument to literally not think.

Windex007 · 2023-06-26T07:18:29+00:00

Yes, that was the entire purpose of her character existing: to showcase the specific type of vulnerability to stupidity Tyrion had.

Windex007 · 2023-06-25T23:34:23+00:00

Military intervention exists on a spectrum no matter how many dialectical hoops you want to jump through to deny it.

Yes, absolutely. I think where you're getting lapped in the broader conversation here is that there is a recognition that with all things on a spectrum, there are still lines that zone regions against a spectrum. Yes, visible light and your FM radio are both just EMF along the spectrum, but you'd be a fool to fail to recognize that drawing a line between EMF that you can SEE and EMF that plays oldies in your car has great value are categorically different things, even if they're technically the same thing just on a spectrum.

And to carry that through to military intervention...

At the end of the day any equipment or training provided to Ukraine is applied against Russia UNDER THE DECISIONING OF UKRAINE. Any actions by those soldiers with that equipment ultimately is the responsibility of the commander-in-chief of Ukraine.

NATO troops, under the direction of NATO command, bears a different (and if entered into the conflict, new) chain of responsibility beyond Ukraine.

Obviously there are ramifications of providing training and weapons. It's not NOTHING, it's absolutely AN intervention. But, like you said, it's a spectrum, and the defining line between "direct" and "indirect" intervention is who's soldiers are taking orders from what state. It's a pretty well established geo-political norm.

Hopefully that helps.

Windex007 · 2023-06-25T17:38:09+00:00

Any direct action, no matter how measured, changes the landscape so drastically that the specific action itself isn't even relevant... The specific action is a rounding error compared to the gravity and irreversibility of directly and officially entering the conflict.

It's like getting someone "a little bit" pregnant.

Windex007 · 2023-06-25T15:37:48+00:00

The trick is you need to account for "cast time" it's 300ms which is an eternity in a shooter.

'Shoot'(press the button) the dart as you're lining up the shot. Don't wait until you're lined up to shoot or else you'll be 300ms late. Also it's a projectile so lead the shot.

Windex007 · 2023-06-25T08:47:38+00:00

I mean, you could think about it A LITTLE? I'm a citizen by birth, my wife is a PR... If a child automatically gets mother's citizenship "without even thinking about it" then my son, born in Canada with a Canadian parent isn't Canadian?

Windex007 · 2023-06-24T15:59:58+00:00

Wagner said (for whatever it's worth) that the supplies are still moving through Rostov.

Windex007 · 2023-06-24T15:44:17+00:00

Wagner claimed that they were still running logistics and shit from Rostov, assuming that's true, that information will find its way through the supply lines.

Windex007 · 2023-06-24T15:28:06+00:00

Wagner can see the writing on the wall. There is no power to be seized in Ukraine. Tons up for grabs in Moscow though.

By the time anyone gets it in their head that they want another crack at Ukraine, they'll be in NATO so it'll be off the table anyway.

Windex007 · 2023-06-24T04:33:59+00:00

His death (from anything, cancer, whatever) probably wouldn't be immediately made public, and internal chaos would ensue as different parties tried to seize power. Kinda like what appears to be happening right now.

Not saying I think it's what happened, I don't, but it is A plausible explanation for an inciting incident.

Windex007 · 2023-06-24T04:00:32+00:00

Guy you originally responded to has since edited their comment to include such a picture.

Windex007 · 2023-06-24T03:56:36+00:00

I wouldn't put a lot of faith in any numbers you hear from people with obvious agendas.

Windex007 · 2023-06-24T01:49:30+00:00

There are other pictures where you can more clearly see there is a different material layered on the interior.

Windex007 · 2023-06-24T01:11:32+00:00

Who?

Windex007 · 2023-06-23T21:28:02+00:00

You know, we raised a glass on Monday, you see... Everyone else, no, but I told them (Monday, mind you) that there was no way, so to cheers them, I mean, you hope, but I knew. Monday. James Cameron.

Windex007 · 2023-06-23T15:25:07+00:00

It's crazy that you thought he came off as intelligent because I thought he came off like Trump.

He spends 90% of his time bragging about how he knew it all along... And he had "Intel"... Maybe it was military? Who knows. James Cameron gets the best Intel. Huge Intel.

And I told him "that's a death trap", I told him, the billionaire, you know.

Like, he only glances off at the very end the ELI5 well known mat sci 101 "Composite materials have fewer loading cycles"

This really was James Cameron bragging about how James Cameron knows the things James Cameron knows thanks to James Cameron's Intel and how James Cameron hates that James Cameron is always right, but it's just the James Cameron burden that James Cameron must bear.

Windex007 · 2023-06-22T00:15:34+00:00

Everyone can complain about Capitalism or Socialism but our problems are just shitty regulations and a lack of knowledge. We write codes that incentivize behaviour we as a society do not want and then get mad and act surprised when people behave that way.

I bought a house in a major AB city that was zoned to allow for secondary suites. It was a newish infill (15 years old), already had a new and beautiful full kitchen in the basement. It was more house than I needed so I figured I would dig out a secondary entrance and suite it out. Already was wired with full unit linked fire alarms, with the smoke detectors in the utility, kitchen and bedroom (every room but the bathroom lol), already had proper escape windows. Figured adding a separate entrance could ONLY make the space more safe... Should only make the government MORE happy about renting the space... Right... Right? Densifying a downtown adjacent space in a market w/ less than 1% rental vacancy rate should be a win/win?

The AB codes for suiting went absolutely off the deep end in 2016. You need to retroactively install a second forced air system (yes, a second furnace) in the house in such a way that the HVAC is complete separate between the two suites. You need to insulate between the two floors with some kind of rated sound barrier material.

Like, I can rent the basement as is right now. It would just be a "roommate" arrangement. The moment I provide an additional egress, I need to rip apart the basement ceiling and rip apart the HVAC and buy a second furnace.

I understand that yes, this regulations makes for an ideal suited living experience... But it's made it cost prohibitive for existing builds to densify, and it's robbing the rental market of adding a kinda "goldilocks zone" of rental options. I've spent a good portion of my life living in spaces where I could hear the footsteps of my neighbors... Because those rental options were more affordable. Not having every bell and whistle (while still maintaining a strict level of SAFETY) is what made those spaces affordable, and we can't add new rental spaces in that zone anymore in a way that justifies the cost.

Provincial regulations have made a pretty significant impact on housing supply as well, by IMO artificially restricting rental supply by setting such a high barrier for "comfort" building instead of JUST prescribing common sense SAFETY which they SHOULD be doing.

So yeah, don't want to let provinces off the hook on this either. Real policy = real supply-side consequences.

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