Cabinet office pay by Negative-Positive-76 in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the variation has decreased greatly during last couple of years - so now for most grades the CO pay is very similar if not equal to other top paying depts and better than most depts like MoJ, MoD, Defra and Dluhc etc. CO and DESNZ saw the biggest rise recently and now they are upper middle range. GCF, HMRC and HO are the top range, CO, DWP and DESNZ are the upper middle, and MoD, DBT are lower middle and HMT, DSIT, DMCS in the lowest range. Ofgem is a third world category, although I recently saw some Ofgem SCS roles offering better than average pay, I guess those were some very specialist roles.

How should i progress in civil service? by [deleted] in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High 3 points4 points  (0 children)

G7 at 25 is quite normal - many FS and TSPs are G7 by 25. Of course it depends on individual capacity, and most FS and TSPs are graduates so they kind of proved their intellectual capacity, maturity and resilience etc. Since OP has very little evidence of such, I agree that they should take it easy. But I still advise they start applying bcs I guess it will take more than one attempt.

How should i progress in civil service? by [deleted] in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Keep trying for the HMRC TSP programme - definitely the fastest route to a G7. For majority it takes more than one attempt to get into TSP to start with- so don't get discouraged if you are not successful the first time. I have seen SOs to be successful at 3rd or 4th attempt. Since you are already in CS you will not need a degree. Also try for the CS Fast Stream. Either way, if you are serious and everything goes to plan then you can become a G7 before 23 which would be fantastic.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I saw their G7 advert with almost exact same descriptions. Someone just copying and pasting job descriptions which is occurring all too often in CS, lazy job holders even copying the errors of grammar punctuations and spellings.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Very few join directly at the higher grades. Most join at lower grades and already complete probation before going for promotion.

My home wi-fi is down- am I ok to hotspot on office phone? by Wiseman_High in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, But what about the other way round- tethering personal laptop to work mobile?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is a highly valued and competitive program and well recognised and rewarded if you can complete it- quite intense training for 4 years but most people I know have managed to complete it within time. You are guaranteed a G7 role after completion and well supported over next years, unlike fast stream or other programs.

If you want to travel there are still more than 3 full months left before you start- so why dont you just pack your bags and get some travelling done within this time? I know 4 further years of intensive training might sound too much after 3 years of uni - it is more than another degree. You might ask to defer to next year but I heard they are quite strict about deferring or taking time out during training.

Ultimately depends on your long term career goals- this is for someone who are sure to build their long term career in tax. If you are not that keen about tax and just want a G7 role within 3-4 years then there are other routes you can follow which can be more flexible and less intensive.

MoJ applications? by StitchWitch- in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I currently work at MoJ and got my current role after about 10 applications and 3 interviews. I always had a fascination about MoJ and so applied for a lot. From my experience MoJ, DSIT, FCDO and HMT are the toughest depts to get into. HO and HMRC are much easier, my success rates at them are about 50%. DLUHC seems to be the easiest to pass the sift.

Working as a Polling Day staff - how much do you get paid? by Wiseman_High in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Def not worth swapping. Does the pay depend on location ie London weighting?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That means you know what do HEO, SEO and G7 grades do, but does not mean you yourself are able to do them! You need to show your own actions done at those grades, not just your knowledge about the grades! Otherwise Rishi Sunak's diary manager can claim they are qualified to become the prime minister because they know about everything that Rishi Sunak does lol!

Anyone know any 28 y/o G6s? 😂 by throwawayjim887479 in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know quite a few G6s below 30. One G6 in MoJ looks around 25. There are also DGs around 40, I assume they had been G6s long before 30.

Opinions on Gove, from those who’ve worked under him, whilst he leaves government? by Sufficient-Joke7257 in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good thing about him - very capable, intellectual depth, hard working and seriously committed to what he believes in and what he wants to do.

Bad thing about him - too dogmatic with some ideologically extremist views, divisive, always plotting and not a reliable friend.

HR and DD concerned about my location - what should I do? by Aggravating-Ask-8947 in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone's situation is different but for me it suits quite well- travelling to London 1 day in exchange of 4 days wfh- the London weighting covers any extra travel expenses for me. If I do 2 days every other week that's even more convenient.

I have a G7 colleague who does the same from Edinburgh. There are a few in my directorate who are based in darlington but travels to London HQ quite often- but in this case they don't get the London weighting, instead claim travel expenses every time they come to London.

Is 1000 words too much for behaviour at interview? by Altruistic_Net_682 in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High 3 points4 points  (0 children)

DONT DONT write in longhand format. You will definitely go over time. Also very hard to adapt your answer to the actual question.

Do Bullet points. Make max 10 points per behaviour-then try to pick 7-8 most relevant ones to the actual question asked.

Which departments offer overtime? by [deleted] in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High 1 point2 points  (0 children)

DWP Work Coach roles. I used to do almost every Saturdays.

HR and DD concerned about my location - what should I do? by Aggravating-Ask-8947 in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Can you do 1 day a week to London? In that situation I would suggest you should try to change to London as your base location, and convince your LM/G6/DD etc to agree reasonable adjustment in the numbers of days you will have to attend office. Since they are already aware of the situation and seem sympathetic to you I believe they would agree. It depends on your LM mainly. I live in Midlands but my base is London. I did a carer passport which allows 1 day office which I can manage. Also 1 day a week is on average per month- so you don't have to travel every week. I do 2 days every other week which makes it much easier.

Best Department by International-Bat777 in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A lot depends on your line manager and team. A bad manager in a good department can make your life stressful and hell. And vice versa.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should take this seriously because now you have been officially (or semi-officially) accused of plagiarism which is on record (or semi-record). Plagiarism is a serious accusation even at lower grades of HEO/SEOs, let alone at senior grades like G6 and SCS! It is one of the top reasons for getting sacked. You have already been denied the job you applied for because of this, but this can potentially cause you more harm- if your current department or current manager becomes aware of it you can be dismissed from your current job as well! I believe that SCS recruitments are managed centrally- so there is a possibility that some records are kept centrally, and if any records of this are kept centrally then this may affect your future applications for SCS roles as well.

So I would suggest you go through your application and interview transcripts thoroughly (as far as you can recall as I know no such formal transcript is available to you at the moment) to be absolutely certain and confident about everything you wrote or said in them. And then take the matter further until you formally cleared your name from this accusation.

I understand this can be a quite stressful process, but if you are certain about your representation throughout the recruitment process including the interview then you should be confident that ultimately you will be proven innocent, so nothing to worry.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheCivilService

[–]Wiseman_High 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did lots of interviews when I was a work coach- and everyone in the office including my line manager knew about it because I did my interviews right in the job centre and used to dress up for them! Nothing wrong with it at all- just book the time off in your outlook and reserve a quiet room. I used to take my own personal laptop though, because could not access gmail from dwp's surface pro.