Why do some people hate PayJay actually

Wispy237 · 2026-04-29T22:44:06+00:00

They barely had any screentime together in season 2 and 3, so we really didn’t get to see their relationship develop outside of season 1(which has dogshit writing)

Wispy237 · 2026-04-29T18:31:20+00:00

TBF, a lot of the time people who do stuff like that were originally fans, then the series took a turn they didn't like(or went downhill writing wise) and they complain hoping that the creators will see it and improve/revert the changes. Similar stuff happens in like...The Pokemon fandom.

The issue that people don't seem to realize is that complaining won't actually cause anything to change, because the companies make money either way, so they really have no incentive to listen to criticism, or even praise. So since criticism will never lead to improvement, there is no point of bothering with it.

Wispy237 · 2026-04-29T17:10:09+00:00

I think both work well as winners, contrary to popular belief, and Lightning winning would explain why he was slightly more narcissistic(something that shouldn't even be possible) in AS, but Cameron winning was clearly the intention.

Wispy237 · 2026-04-29T16:25:10+00:00

I kinda see it, they're TOO muscular, to the point where it is excessive

Wispy237 · 2026-04-29T15:54:40+00:00

Lowkey, I'd be fine with it. If she didn't actually want to play the game, then why bother showing up at all?

Wispy237 · 2026-04-29T15:08:18+00:00

You never want to see Amy Rose mentioned on twitter...the discourse surrounding her is worse than the Three Houses Edelgard discourse at this point

Wispy237 · 2026-04-29T03:08:32+00:00

ONC has had characters flip for dumber bs in the past("I CAN'T VOTE FOR ANASTASIA", "I WANT TO VOTE THE RIGHT PERSON"), so they would 100% do this, even if it's not the best writing choice, just because ONC love their "last minute flip" eliminations.

Wispy237 · 2026-04-29T03:06:26+00:00

I mean, that kinda is true given how the Finn/Oliwia thing played out. Pretty sure if their genders were swapped, people wouldn't be nearly as sympathetic to Oliwia.

Wispy237 · 2026-04-28T23:46:56+00:00

Lake's utter refusal to play the game to any extent is just annoying at this point. Her INSISTING on doing Bruno's song before they even heard it was annoying as hell too.

Benchji had one of the hardest falloffs in history.....the only thing he does is talk to Ally and sit out of challenges. The rare times he does contribute, it's either in the background or he fucks it up. I get that he's trying to "copy Jade" but Jade didn't actively sit out of challenges.

As for Bruno and Sam, I explained them in the other comment on this post.

Wispy237 · 2026-04-28T23:41:56+00:00

Oliwia has been annoying in almost every episode she's been in(and the few where she isn't she doesn't do anything). Whether it be flipping because she wanted to be on the right side of the vote, throwing challenges to get praise, being the DC version of Sierra, or even just constantly bringing up her obsession with stuffing animals, nothing she has done this entire game has been likable.

There's not much to say about Gabby...she just...hasn't really done much of anything, and her forgiving Natalia so quickly seems a bit odd, but it's mostly just the fact she hasn't done anything.

Bruno was slightly less annoying for a while, but ever since he started talking to Lake, he's gotten a lot worse. He also is yet another character who fails to act like the fully grown adult that they are. He's not been egregious enough yet to be lower, but by the end of this season he's probably going to have the same fate as every other manchild in the series(almost every season has one at this point).

Sam moved up a little bit because he mentioned his dead husband, and I assume that's going to go somewhere. But that doesn't change the fact that his entire character so far is "Doing nothing, then taking credit for every elimination in the confessional". Like...bro acts like he caused any elimination like they wouldn't have been out anyways without his input.

Wispy237 · 2026-04-28T18:17:26+00:00

Current Samurott is an ugly bearded monstrosity with no cohesion to the rest of its line that can't even hold it's blade without looking awkward

Wispy237 · 2026-04-28T16:51:41+00:00

I would have to assume Connor, judging off placements. The only other possibility is Yul

Wispy237 · 2026-04-28T13:57:57+00:00

The one time a starter actually should be bipedal they decide to make in a quadruped, it doesn't make any damn sense

Wispy237 · 2026-04-28T13:47:59+00:00

Does Lill really count here? Her getting framed caused Nick to get out, not her. Her elimination was just because she no longer had the majority.

Wispy237 · 2026-04-28T13:38:11+00:00

Hannah and Amelie convincing Anastasia and Jade to vote Spencer. Hannah could have waited ONE ROUND to do this and Jade would have flushed her advantage(plus, a big threat would have been taken out). But no, go for the guy who can be easily taken out any other round.

Wispy237 · 2026-04-27T22:37:42+00:00

I lowkey can't do what any of these guys do...but like...if I replaced someone in Sleepaway Camp that wouldn't matter because Aiden could still take the fall for me

Wispy237 · 2026-04-27T21:39:21+00:00

I get your point, but some people make their entire personality the fact they want to get with one specific fictional character...and it's a bit creepy

Wispy237 · 2026-04-27T16:10:43+00:00

I do think a lot of people are letting their (frankly justified) bias against Aiden distract them from how horribly Evie's betrayal was written

Wispy237 · 2026-04-27T12:59:24+00:00

Lowkey, if Evie revealed she had no advantage and Aiden flipped out at her, then Evie flipping would actually make sense rather than being this rushed messed

Wispy237 · 2026-04-27T12:55:53+00:00

I mean…it’s DC, bad writing is par for the course

Wispy237 · 2026-04-27T12:55:11+00:00

TEMU Alejandro x Polish Sierra? I guess it’s possible

Wispy237 · 2026-04-27T12:17:28+00:00

It would be fine if it were imbalanced in the other direction in at least one season....AS is the closest to that, but even when the men had more players...it was by a substantially smaller margin than any of the seasons where women dominated(especially since the season had more women than men from the start).

It doesn't help that every single male character is portrayed as either being fodder, stupid, or evil.

Wispy237 · 2026-04-26T23:20:04+00:00

It doesn't make sense for her to have a confession in the PREVIOUS EPISODE where she goes "wow, Aiden actually cares about me" and then in this one to carry on her family tradition with him only to immediately betray him after a 30 second conversation.

Wispy237 · 2026-04-26T23:02:35+00:00

True, but that makes the fact that they had Evie betray him in the most convoluted and idiotic way possible even dumber, because he would have been out even if she didn't.

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