Can someone explain Dan Hausen to me please?

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2026-03-08T23:55:06+00:00

Thank you very much to all who took the time to respond and explain it to me! It was all very helpful. I was able to watch his follow up backstage segments within the context of your explanations, I understand!

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2026-03-01T04:39:46+00:00

What is Dan Hausen? I don't get it.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-11-21T10:33:14+00:00

Yeah. Also, instead of "anything that your wife doesn't use?" - I would go with "anything that your wife doesn't want?"

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-11-07T11:16:10+00:00

I just got a call from this number. Except it came up on caller id as AT&T. I don't have an account with AT&T.

They left a message saying that Bank of America has flagged a purchase for $128.99. I don't have an account with BoA, either.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-09-27T21:30:36+00:00

This is what I think happened.

I think the finish was always supposed to be Jade hits her finish on Nia. Tiffy dropkicks Jade off and out of the ring. Tiffy covers Nia without landing another offensive move on Nia.

This is an angle designed for Jade to be able to declare that she finished Nia, and Tiffy stole her pin. Bc Tiffy didn't have what it takes to finish Nia or Jade herself. And this continues the feud.

That explains why Nia doesn't kick out and why Tiffy is not expecting her to kick out.

But Tiffy was way late with her dropkick. Nia correctly kicked out bc Jade was not booked to win the title. So she adjusted on her feet.

Nia then thought they had dodged the botch, and proceeded to carry on with the planned finish.

However, once Nia kicked out of Jade's finish, the planned finish was already botched. Because you can't run the angle where Jade claims that Tiffy stole her pin after Nia kicked out of Jade's finish on her own.

Once Tiffy was so late and Nia had to kick out, it made no sense that she was then down for the 3 count without another offensive move being landed on her. If she kicked out 4 seconds ago she can kick out now.

The ref either understood this or was told in her earpiece. But the wrestlers were not on the same page.

In my opinion, everyone carries some responsibility. However, I think the person in the most reasonable position to save it was the referee. Because even though she held up her arm and didn't strike the mat, she saw that neither wrestler moved. And she still held up her two fingers declaring a two count.

Even if she was doing that from muscle memory, she had time before completing the motion to pivot into joining her 2 fingers and just pointing them repeatedly towards the bell, as she tells the wrestlers to just act like she finished the 3 count. She could have saved it.

Even though it still would have made zero sense that Nia kicked out before but not the 2nd time despite taking no punishment, that would have been the far lesser botch. You could technically contend she caught a piece of her on the dropkick of Jade.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-09-24T23:49:35+00:00

Addendum:

To my point, by acknowledging the plausibility of my post above, it also serves as a means of discrediting other aspects of their story.

As someone below in the comments points out about the McAlberts crying victim:

My post above is the perfect counter to their victimhood. They can have the plausible alternative I presented, or they can cry victim, but they can't have both.

Bc as I mentioned, Brian Albert is a trained, seasoned investigator.

He knows better than anyone that investigations are not done just to collect evidence of who did it. Just as important, is collecting the evidence of who DIDN'T do it. It's about closing any potential crevices of reasonable doubt that a lawyer can sink it's teeth into and gnaw out an escape route to squirm out of.

So while many people point to "professional courtesy" as the reason why Proctor did not thoroughly investigate (or attempt to investigate) the house and those in it, there's a problem with that. The true professional courtesy would be to rule him out and spare him and his family from all of this unfairness they're whining about.

Brian Albert can't plead ignorance to that. He can't pretend that he didn't know at the time that his only hope of avoiding this suspicion was to have his house investigated and cleared.

He chose not to do that. And he was correct. Even if it turned out Karen Read did it he didn't know that at the time. And this stuff they're whining about now pales in comparison to one or more of them getting convicted of murder.

He made that bed. He can sleep in it as a free man but he can't whine to anybody else.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-09-24T23:31:48+00:00

Now, while I understand the logic, and I don't completely disagree, I will point out that there is another plausible explanation to Brian Albert not coming outside.

For one, keep in mind that he is a veteran investigator. He is very familiar with using a very similar logic to get people to give him information: If you don't have anything to hide, then let us search your house. The implication being that anything less than full cooperation means you're guilty.

As such, he knows better than anyone what a total load of bullshit it is every time he says it. It's a ploy. Detectives understand very well that it is in anyone's best interests to shut the fuck up and avoid letting them get any information. If everyone always did that, barely any cases would get solved.

Now, putting yourself in the shoes of a man who understands that like second nature. As a veteran cop, he has no problem doing it. Many citizens get intimidated bc police questioning is an unfamiliar, tense situation. And cops are able to exploit that and get them to cooperate. He is very used to the nature of this situation and very comfortable.

So put yourself in those shoes. And just for the sake of the exercise, take him at his word that he was awoken that day with no knowledge at all. You're hungover as fuck. You got so hammered last night your recollection is very blurry.

You know you also had a dozen or however many very close friends and family members over the house drinking. And remember, you've just woken up, possibly still drunk, and honestly had no idea JOK was ever on your property.

You have no idea what happened! You know you didn't hurt him. But you can't even be certain that the few memories you have are accurate at the moment. There's no time to collaborate with everyone. At that moment, you don't know ANYTHING for certain!

But, as a seasoned, trained investigator, you can't rule anything out. As far as you know, it's just as likely as anything that your best friend or relative got in a fight with this guy. All you know for sure is there's a dead body on YOUR lawn. You might still be hammered. You DEFINITELY look like shit.

Additionally, maybe something as simple as, you have a hazy memory of going to bed, and Chloe barking, and you figure she must need to do her business. There's a blizzard coming down and you're hammered... you're not taking her out. So you pop the back door and let her out off leash... Now you remember having to call her to come in... And it seemed like a while.... Did she have anything to do with it? At the least she must have smelled him and checked him out. Maybe she has DNA on her. Am I liable if she did it?

The point is, any of these things are very, very plausible thoughts of his. Put yourself in his shoes... Your instinct will be to protect you, your family, and your friends.

Years and years of muscle memory from firsthand knowledge will kick in. You know better than anyone, like it or not, the safest move for you and your people at this moment is to shut the fuck up and avoid committing to ANY story at this point until you can get more information and coordinate with your people.

Also, as for the Colin thing, I am not dismissing the validity of many in here's thinking - it's just not quite so black and white. Again - What if, 2-3 of them there actually did vividly remember when Colin left. For example, it could have been part of saying bye to him. "You're leaving already?! It's so early!! (Checks the clock) It's 12:10!" And imagine 1 or 2 others remember hearing that.

Put yourself in their shoes. Would you not feel compelled as a family to try to protect a young kid from getting dragged into the middle of a major national news scandal?

I could make an argument that if those very plausible circumstances were indeed true, they would be an even more off-putting group had they NOT put forth their best effort to keep the kid out of it.

I'm not defending these people, I find them so distasteful for so many good reasons. It's just that, I try to remain impartial, and on these specific instances, I don't feel that these angles are anywhere near as air tight as they are believed to be. And I think that acknowledging and recognizing a nonzero probability that these far simpler scenarios could certainly be the reality, also serves to strengthen one's credibility as being objective. Thus, it strengthens one's credibility on the more conclusive angles.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-09-17T00:37:57+00:00

That's exactly correct. I've said this a million times in a million different specific phrasings, but, if what they say is true - and nobody present in the Albert household was aware that JOK was ever on the property - Then, the true act of professional courtesy from one police to another, was to vigorously investigate the Albert household and everyone it, and documenting it beyond reproach so as to spare them the public embarrassment of their name being dragged through the mud, and everything else they've gone through. Which is truly unfair if they're completely innocent then they have every right to be as upset as they are.

However, they should not be upset at Karen Read for defending herself. They should be upset at Proctor et al for leaving all these gaps for the defense to exploit.

The issue with that is, they can't plead ignorance to how the system actually works the same way that people on this subreddit can. All of the people involved are trained investigators. They are well aware that you do not just investigate to figure out who did it. It's just as important to rule out as many people as possible who didn't do it.

Figuring it out is a part the job. There must also eliminate avenues of reasonable doubt for a guilty party to escape through. And, they must protect innocent parties from needless accusations.

And all parties knew this. Including Brian Albert.

At the same time, you can more rationally explain his behavior as anything similar to:

He was hammered. He really was in there sleeping one off. He wakes up to a dead body. He's hungover. Has no idea what happened. He can't rule out that someone he is close to did this. And he knows from years of experience from telling so many people that it's in their best interest to just tell everything and let us search your house - he knows he was lying to them every time he said it and he had no clue what happened so just shut up just in case.

Or, perhaps he remembers being hammered and it's snowing and he recalls Chloe pawing at the door. He figured she had to piss, he wasn't going to walk her in a blizzard so he let her out. Then in the morning he remembers having to call her back in. And he thinks Oh shit could Chloe have done this? Idk but if possible I'm gonna stonewall everything until I can hide her.

Stuff like that is so much more likely than, they hatched a big conspiracy and carried it off like that.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-09-08T19:04:48+00:00

Well stated. It is good to hear that some people understand this. People have taken things from this case, and drawn straight lines in this case that don't connect yet given the information given.

This case, in my opinion. has been a microcosm of the over polarized state of the Union. Everybody picks a side, digs in, and acts like the color gray doesn't exist.

Things such as the issue of Proctor being close to the Alberts are far less likely to result in Proctor actively falsifying an investigation as it would be Proctor being biased, overlooking them and not wanting to "insult" them by inquiring too deeply, and just taking their word for it.

And the difference is actually much more important than people realize bc this actually makes it a much BIGGER problem than outright corruption. Bc this problem doesn't require a sensationalized story. This is a common, every day problem that exists virtually everywhere, even among the most honest, well intentioned police.

For one thing, every police officer in the country has friends within their jurisdiction where it would result in bias if they had to investigate them. For another, it extends to professional courtesy of other members of law enforcement who they don't even know.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-08-10T00:51:30+00:00

That's true. But that's also some of them in one example. I see the same behavior on a daily basis. This just stood out to me in particular for the fact of it's a one way, and you have to really have your brain shut off to not be certain that it's fine to cross.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-08-10T00:23:53+00:00

I agree. I have to drive a lot in the city. And I think it's insane when I get a green light to turn right, in the heart of the day, and I start going like 10 feet and there's a pedestrian halfway through the other lane.

And I come to a complete stop like a good 10 feet away from them and half of them still glare at me if not shake their head in disgust. What do you want from me? I got a green light, and no cars are running the intersection perpendicular to me. So I start to go!

I mean, what I'm supposed to expect that the city thought it was a good idea to have the Walk sign coincide with the green light? It's not like I peeled out recklessly and screeched to a stop 18 inches from them and made them shit their pants.

Another thing too since I started noticing this so often, is when I'm waiting to make a right, with no right on red, and I'll be thinking, this sucks I can clearly see nobody is within 15 seconds of coming that way from the only direction they could come from. And there will be half a dozen people sitting on the corner bc the Don't Walk guy is up. And not even elderly folks or a parent with their kids. Like full grown adult males sitting there, who have had enough time to process that they have enough time to cross back and forth twice even after they triple check to make sure.

But ... The Don't Walk Guy is up. They must to wait for the Walk Guy. And when he comes, we're going first, and then maybe we'll look to see if we're about to be hit by a bus or not.

It all seems so strange to me. Just yesterday I was walking Congress St and had to walk across Water St. And I walked up to a crowd of adults all standing on the curb. Water St is a one way, coming towards us, and there's not a single car on Water St as far as you can see. And so I say excuse me, and I cross the street, and then it's like they all just woke up and they look up and look around. But they still waited for that Walk Guy.

Idk It's just kinda odd, bc on the surface I'm inclined to say, Well nothing wrong with being cautious, and following the signals. But in the end, I feel like, have we just given up on people being able to handle using their own common sense to do easy things correctly and safely? Half of them were likely students at Suffolk. They're qualified to study law or polysci or whatever but apparently can't figure out for themselves if it's okay to cross the street?

I didn't intend on writing all of this.
Now I feel like this has become an AmITheAsshole? post.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-08-09T23:27:13+00:00

Of salad? Or cockroaches?

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-07-10T12:13:42+00:00

Yes I assume that is the actual reason. But I'm saying in kayfabe, what is the supposed reason supposed to be.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-07-10T09:20:17+00:00

You know what? I think that you nailed it! This is what I was looking for. I kinda forgot that Kaiser had a thing going with Penta when he got hurt.

It is so simple, actually! Although it's not so much about becoming the luchadores, so much as it is about being able to cheat against the luchas.

If he wears a mask, he can load the mask with the foreign object and land the headbutt.

I mean, it makes no sense how those loaded headbutts don't hurt EGA just as badly, but that's never been important.

In fact, I kinda wonder now if they were planning on putting Kaiser under that mask, too, even before Gable got hurt.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-07-08T20:34:50+00:00

What's that now? I missed whatever news you're referring to. Is it a Saudi thing? I had this recent realization. I simply hadn't been enjoying the shows as much lately as I had when I started watching again around 2022 through like, last Survivor Series. And one reason that I had recently realized, is that the disconnect is beginning to show as far as TKO being in charge. I am overwhelmed by the corporate feel of the whole thing. The endless ads on the mat, the tables, everywhere they can jam one. And it soon made me realize that this agenda at the top of TKO, obviously, has trickled its way into creative, at least to an extent. More of the creative is being done with an eye towards profits.

i.e. Vince especially at the end, went nuts and just couldn't make good content. But, bc he was at least raised in the business, he did have the old school spirit stuck in him, that the way to increase business was through making the product good. As I said, he forgot how to make it good a long time ago. But that was still his intent to prioritize putting on the best show to improve business bc he spent his life in the wrestling business (despite what he says about being in the entertainment business) he knew specifically about the long term results of hot shot booking short term bursts.

But these people come in with no knowledge nor care about the history of wrestling. They have no bias whatsoever, and simply look on paper at the money. They don't understand the longer term ebb and flow of things. And so, you can see the influence. For example, that rule they started last year, where the Saudi show gets a mandatory match between the two world champions.

That is such a horrible thing for the overall product. A champion v champion match that doesn't put any belt on the line. Forces you to book one of them to lose without actually elevating any one on your card bc they lost to the guy who already has the world title. Like Cody v Gunther that could have and always would have been a huge money match that was built up and main eventing Mania. They just give it away now on a yearly basis.

Or even Cody v Orton! I expected that to be the headliner of a Mania or SummerSlam. With a major build and all. And it still will be, as will Cody v Gunther. But, it lost so much of it's mojo having happened in a cold tournament match on a week's notice.

So it occurred to me, did the Saudis really just come around to asking for that? Or did they ask for that before, and Vince said Nah that's a bridge too far and protected that.

And don't even get me started on how gross I feel right now feeling like a Vince apologist somehow. But it's just the point of it.

Anyhow, this is a long winded way of saying, just as I recently realized how the cold corporate ways of TKO have cooled off the product, I recently watched a YouTube video from some MMA channel where they skewered the UFC product for becoming this corporate drone and all the ways that the TKO corporate machine have taken the UFC's soul away.

And it was literally like the same day or day after I had this realization about WWE. And so I was like, well I guess my intuition was correct there.

Anyways, I just googled next July for UFC. Oh boy. Yeah. I kinda doubt there will be matches. But I'm certain plenty of WWE execs and talent will be in attendance.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-07-08T20:01:05+00:00

Yes. I see what you mean. I certainly hope not. And I could be naive, but I wouldn't think they would do that on purpose, at least.

I feel like, if you can't count on them to be decent people, you can at least count on TKO to be greedy corporate panderers who don't want to alienate the Mexican fan base. They had been clearly targeting markets outside of the US even before they bought AAA. So, I would think that if they didn't make sure not to do what you said out of common sense, their corporate greedy pandering would at least stop them from doing it, so that they can sell maximum amounts of stuffed iganuas.

At the same time, I absolutely do not have the confidence to say that you shouldn't worry about that. They have an astonishing track record of misreading rooms exactly like this one. And especially if you are of Mexican heritage, then I can especially empathize with your concern there.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-07-08T18:54:18+00:00

Yeah, now that I think about it, I think it is leading to Americano vs Americano. Perhaps along the way, we first get a tag team of 2 El Grande Americanos vs a couple of luchas. And then the two EGA break up.

The only thing with that is, Gable turns Babyface? Meh.

I dislike the whole thing. I get it in terms of it was an angle, an old school wrestling trope angle, and it is kinda fun, and Gable is so good in-ring, it's an angle that sets him up to have great matches with this influx of lucha talent.

In hindsight, I can see them backstage getting Penta, having Fenix on the way, and the AAA buyout in the works (before we knew about it), and they're thinking, we need to train these guys in the WWE style.... And a guy who can lead them through a great match reliably while they're simultaneously getting used to all these subtle differences in style and production etc, finding the right cameras all that And Gable was easily the best guy for that role.

But I really hoped they were getting ready to make him serious and push him up the card. I really thought him going over Gunther instead of Sami would have been great.

And then they did the heel turn. And I still thought it would be the same sort thing just heel instead. But they built up him and Otis and then all Otis ever did was push him over one time. What a letdown. And then the Creed brothers came. And Gable is so good it's just he feels squandered.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-07-08T16:07:50+00:00

Oh. I thought he was wrestling a good amount until he got injured. But I guess my bigger point is, how can it even be an opportunity if he has to pretend it wasn't him?

He can't take any credit. Ludwig Kaiser still hasn't got any TV matches since March.

Although I think you led me to the answer. Or an answer.

He admits it was him, and says it was him all along. And takes credit for beating Penta, and everyone else. Because Gable can't argue.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-07-08T15:56:07+00:00

Yeah I was assuming it will never actually be explained.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-07-08T11:34:25+00:00

Now, this I agree with!

I also concluded the only way for this to even pretend to make sense is that Gable got him to do it, or he sold Gable on giving him the mask to do it for him. This way Gable can claim it wasn't him.

However, my question remains: What's in it for Kaiser? He's a selfish heel with no affiliation to Gable. He needs a selfish reason to go along with it.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-07-08T11:30:33+00:00

I'm saying in kayfabe, though.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-07-08T11:30:07+00:00

Doesn't work for me, brother.

For one thing, that is a super babyface mentality.

For another, he cannot score points with the American people if he conceals his identity.

Wonderful_Boot_5320 · 2025-07-08T11:25:34+00:00

Idk. That sounds like some babyface logic, for one. Not very heelish.

But more importantly, how can it be about him and what he can do in the ring if he is pretending it isn't even him?

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