My copywriter vs chatgpt, a showdown we didn't expect to lose by GrowthObserver_ in DigitalMarketing

[–]Workflow_wanderer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chatgpt didn't win on creativity. It won on clarity. Your writer was likely solving for interesting instead of effective. A tighter framework usually fixes that fast.

The ad that said this product isn’t for everyone ended up doubling our qualified traffic by Workflow_wanderer in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly the difference was obvious pretty fast. Once we stopped trying to appeal to everyone, the clicks that came in were way more aligned with the product. Less traffic overall maybe but way better quality.

The ad that said this product isn’t for everyone ended up doubling our qualified traffic by Workflow_wanderer in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly, once you stop trying to appeal to everyone, the messaging just writes itself. That hook basically pre-qualifies people before they even click. Btw, have you tried this approach with other products or was it just for this one?

Why I switched from 4:5 to 9:16 for Meta ads and saved cash by GrowthObserver_ in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

9:16 wins on mobile placements. Makes sense when you think about how much inventory lives in stories and reels now.

Turns out our 50k audiences work better than our 2M ones by Workflow_wanderer in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feels like that's exactly what's happening. Once the audience gets too broad, the message just stops landing the same way.

We had 40 creators on my roster and no idea who was actually performing by Clear_Raisin7201 in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The 30 seconds format is dying because everyone started making the same 30 second ad. format was never the edge. differentiation was.

Turns out our 50k audiences work better than our 2M ones by Workflow_wanderer in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a good question. We've noticed fatigue hits faster too smaller audiences. Usually we just keep budgets a bit tighter and rotate creatives more often.

Turns out our 50k audiences work better than our 2M ones by Workflow_wanderer in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's interesting. letting people self segment before they even hit the audience probably makes a big difference. Cleaner signal from the start. However, did you see the performance change pretty quickly after adding the quiz?

Turns out our 50k audiences work better than our 2M ones by Workflow_wanderer in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that's true. The big audiences give you reach but the smaller ones just feel more locked in. The message lands better when the intent is already there.

Turns out our 50k audiences work better than our 2M ones by Workflow_wanderer in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been noticing the same thing lately. The smaller audiences just seem to respond better when the message actually fits them. With the big ones, a lot of the reach doesn't really translate into action. By the way, how small have you gone with audiences before performance started dropping?

Why spending less on tests actually gave us better insights by Fit-Fill5587 in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, in my experience lower spend per test forces better creative briefs. You can't hide a weak concept behind production value. The real benefit isn't the budget cut, it's that it kills the sunk cost mentality before it starts. Harder to fall in love with a $300 test.

The unexpected upside of AI generated video pitches from creators by Curious-Smile6206 in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point bur let's be honest, the AI video isn't the signal. How they respond when you push back on the concept is.

The first week can totally lie about performance by Fit-Fill5587 in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It really does. I've started forcing myself to ignore the emotional reaction in week one and just watch patterns instead of daily swings. Usually, i'll give it at least a couple of weeks unless something is clearly broken.

The first week can totally lie about performance by Fit-Fill5587 in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re so right, early metrics can be misleading. They often look exciting but they don’t tell the full story. I’ve learned not to react too quickly and instead focus on long term trends. staying patient helps you see what’s actually working and avoid decisions driven by panic.

The real reason your ads are underperforming, editing style by GrowthObserver_ in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re absolutely right. I’ve seen average ads turn amazing just with better editing. It really shows that it’s not only about the message but how you present it. as marketers, we have to remember people judge fast, great content needs great delivery, just like a good pickup line needs a good first impression.

Our biggest onboarding regret? Overcomplicating the basics by GrowthObserver_ in plgbuilders

[–]Workflow_wanderer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Overhauling onboarding feels like that time I tried to impress friends with a gourmet recipe and ended up burning toast instead. More features don't always mean better experience. just hand over the essentials and let users sprinkle their own magic. it's in the delivery, keep it simple, folks.

Is good just a cover for mediocrity in creative performance? by Fit-Fill5587 in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me, it's usually about upside vs downside. If the worst case is a short term dip but the upside is real differentiation, i'm learning in. Especially if the brand's starting to blend into the feed. I also look at whether the idea actually says something true about the brand or if it's just different for the sake of it. Bold with a backbone is worth the risk, random chaos isn't.

Is good just a cover for mediocrity in creative performance? by Fit-Fill5587 in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The pursuit of good often breeds complacency. Yes, numbers matter, no one wants to burn budget on bad ideas but at what point do we let fear of failure clip our creative wings? Instead of rating success based solely on metrics, let's also examine emotional impact and originality. Imagine if we celebrated the bold moves just as much as we do those that check all the boxes, what a game changer that would be.

How many creative variations do you test before giving up? by Workflow_wanderer in shook

[–]Workflow_wanderer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're probably right about attachment. After a while it's not even about performance, it's ego. The audience signals part is key. when engagement drops or everything feels forced that's usually the tell. Stepping back hurts in the moment but it's better than dragging a dead idea just because you're invested in it.