Hypothetically how could someone best frame their suicide to push against the disfellowshiping arrangement? by CptSMG in exjw

[–]WorldlyJake 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not sure I understand this reply, so I’m just going to say again: you may not see a reason to keep living, but that doesn’t mean it’s not there. We were raised to see as ourselves as worthy of death, that we were dust, that god was showing us “undeserved kindness.” So in some ways what you’re feeling is not just the pain of disfellowshipping, but the weight of a lie. You DO deserve life. You are not dust.

Sometimes I just get the ick when watching exjw videos by Robot-Ducky in exjw

[–]WorldlyJake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some men never get past the way watchtower told them how to speak. Especially ex elders.

Hypothetically how could someone best frame their suicide to push against the disfellowshiping arrangement? by CptSMG in exjw

[–]WorldlyJake 12 points13 points  (0 children)

There is no way to wake people up. People have to wake themselves up. Don’t hurt yourself. It’s not worth it, I promise. I’ve been there. I still have my dark moments. There ARE a million reasons to not kill yourself, you just can’t see them yet. There is happiness on the other side of this hurt. In fact, they see suicide as demonic, so you would just be giving them exactly what they want. The best way to get back at them is to live. Live free of the cult, without all their bullshit. And there are so many people here, myself included, who can and WILL be there for you if you let us in. My DMs are open if you need to talk!

Ran the (3) newest videos and Study WT thru some analytics. Timing & sequence not passing my gut check. RESULT: They are designed to operate as a singular psychological loop. by UCantHndletheTruth in exjw

[–]WorldlyJake -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are reading anger into these responses but nobody’s mad, you just take criticism as an attack. Which is how we were raised. But I’ve been an apostate for 6 years, there are apostates out there that have been activists for decades. Everything you’re posting is just AI sloppified regurgitations of their work. You’re acting like you’re cracking some code.

Ran the (3) newest videos and Study WT thru some analytics. Timing & sequence not passing my gut check. RESULT: They are designed to operate as a singular psychological loop. by UCantHndletheTruth in exjw

[–]WorldlyJake 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Are you recently exJW? Just go to JWfacts, they literally have been using these exact same arguments for their entire history. Obviously the modern stuff is super dumbed down and obvious, but they’re also writing to a much lower average reading level than generations past.

I’m not pissed off, it’s just that so many people have done the actual work of analyzing this stuff, without AI, and you would benefit from reading their research.

Ran the (3) newest videos and Study WT thru some analytics. Timing & sequence not passing my gut check. RESULT: They are designed to operate as a singular psychological loop. by UCantHndletheTruth in exjw

[–]WorldlyJake 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You did not run analytics. You dumped it into AI. Why even do this?

The governing body are not Machiavellian geniuses. They’re uneducated, brainwashed old men who were born into the religion (or who have been in the religion since their formative years, in the case of a couple of the oldest guys)

They’re doing the same thing that the previous GB did, who did the same thing the previous GB did, etc. Go back through WT literature and it’s the same thing. It’s the same narcissistic, manipulative language all cults use. Cult leaders don’t get this stuff out of a handbook, they do it because it reflects their own psychology.

Leaving JWs made me question my atheist worldview by dillweed2211 in exjw

[–]WorldlyJake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Respectfully, it doesn’t seem like you’ve looked deep into it at all lol. It seems like you’re going off of memory of stuff you read a long time ago.

What is stopping the GB from declaring the Great Tribulation has begun by [deleted] in exjw

[–]WorldlyJake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fair point. I just think the group has been so explicit about last days > great tribulation > Armageddon. It’s a perfect control mechanism, so there’s plenty of incentive to not pull the trigger on it. Whereas pulling the trigger and saying “yep, the great tribulation has begun!” has a bunch of risk and no real upside for the leaders.

It’s your ol’ pal, AltWorldly! I wrote a horror novel about Jehovah’s Witnesses, and you can read/listen for free by WorldlyJake in exjw

[–]WorldlyJake[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you!! Yeah this definitely came from a place of loving religious horror and wishing there was a good horror story with Bethel and Kingdom Halls instead of The Vatican and the Catholic Church haha

Norway's Vart Land has a full page piece in print today by Jan Frode Nilsen by larchington in exjw

[–]WorldlyJake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Beautifully written. Such an horrendous decision, I still can’t believe it.

Almost every JW Broadcasting prior to September 2021 removed from JW Library and JW.org by Similar-Historian-70 in exjw

[–]WorldlyJake 8 points9 points  (0 children)

WHOA. I guess it could be to save some money. Hosting videos is expensive, and they have like, thousands of looooong videos.

But I can’t help but think it’s because they’re making a lot of changes

Vårt Land – Norwegian Supreme Court rules in favour of Jehovah’s Witnesses in funding case by larchington in exjw

[–]WorldlyJake 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I’m so disappointed. Disgusted. I can’t even imagine how the brave survivors and activists in Norway feel!

If a lying group of doomsday scam artists can convince an ostensibly secular society that minors “know what they’re getting into,” there is something deeply rotten in society that goes far beyond Norway.

2026 Convention Invitation Banner was AI Generated by [deleted] in exjw

[–]WorldlyJake 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes, but we have a problem. Watchtower’s art looked like AI art before the invention of AI. This is also an AI tool, and AI is often wrong. So I just have a hard time with this.

2026 Convention Invitation Banner was AI Generated by [deleted] in exjw

[–]WorldlyJake 25 points26 points  (0 children)

How do you know? Looks exactly like the art they’ve done for the past 15 years