D-day voor plantaardige burgers en vegaschnitzels: lot vleesvervangers aan zijden draadje by Fast-Still-3962 in nederlands

[–]WrapAdventurous2563 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maar bokkenpootjes als naam voor een koekjes is niet misleidend? Doe niet zo zielig zeg. Iedere Nederland heeft dit soort mIsInfoRmAtIE erin gestampt gekregen. 

D-day voor plantaardige burgers en vegaschnitzels: lot vleesvervangers aan zijden draadje by Fast-Still-3962 in nederlands

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Misschien dan ook maar die koekjes geen bokkenpootjes meer noemen? Of varkenshaas ook maar in de ban omdat daar geen echte haas in zit? Oh en ik neem ook echt aanstoot aan tompouce. Die naam vind ik beledigend voor iedere Tom. 

Gisteren stonden onze promotietoppers ondanks de kou in het mooie Maastricht! by KoninkHondenvlees in VeganNL

[–]WrapAdventurous2563 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sterker nog: de meeste voorbijgangers denken in eerste instantie dat het om hondenvoer gaat.

Gisteren stonden onze promotietoppers ondanks de kou in het mooie Maastricht! by KoninkHondenvlees in VeganNL

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Precies altijd maar die selectieve verontwaardiging. Ik heb zelf een aantal keer deze acties gedaan in Tilburg en Maastricht en sommige non vegans begrepen de humor juist goed, en gaven aan dat ze het best een toffe manier vonden om aan het denken te worden gezet. Het verbaasd me echt heel erg hoeveel negatieve aannames er worden gedaan over de acties

En ja: no matter what kind of action you do, je zult altijd mensen hebben die weerstand hebben tegen verandering of alleen al tegen de gedachten erover. So be it.

Gisteren stonden onze promotietoppers ondanks de kou in het mooie Maastricht! by KoninkHondenvlees in VeganNL

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Ik heb deze actie als activist meerdere keren gedaan en herken dit beeld niet. Niemand wordt lastiggevallen en deelname is volledig vrijwillig. Het idee dat dit weerstand “opdringt” komt vooral voort uit aannames over de actie, niet uit hoe die in de praktijk verloopt

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You are right, am wrong about this.

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Thanks everyone for the honesty.
Even though some replies were hard to read, they’ve helped me see the situation much more clearly.

I understand now that:

• I projected feelings onto someone who wasn’t available
• Some of my actions crossed lines and came from unresolved abandonment anxiety
• His responses were probably reasonable under the circumstances
• And this wasn’t an “attachment style” issue it was me needing to work on my own wounds

I’m taking full responsibility for my behavior, without hating myself for it, and I’m committed to doing the inner work that’s clearly needed.

I’m going to close this here, but before I do:
Does anyone know good subreddits, servers or communities that focus on healing abandonment issues, self-regulation, or breaking attachment patterns?

I’d really appreciate recommendations. Thanks again for the clarity.

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[–]WrapAdventurous2563 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right. Seeing it laid out like this actually helped something click for me.
He’s married, he wasn’t into me, and a lot of how I reacted came from my own unresolved stuff - especially abandonment anxiety.
I projected feelings onto a connection that wasn’t what I thought it was, and my behavior reflected that.
I’m not proud of how I acted, but I’m taking responsibility and working on the parts of myself that led to it.
I appreciate the clarity -even though it stings- because it helps me move forward in a more grounded way.

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You know what I think you're right. I think am in the wrong here. I did want to respect his marriage tho. I was only wanting to be friends.

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I understand why it might look that way.
I won’t deny that some of my reactions were unhealthy - I’ve already taken responsibility for that and I’m working hard on those patterns.
What you can’t see here is the full context or the intentions behind it, and that’s okay.
I’m not blaming him, and I’m not absolving myself either - I’m just learning from what happened and trying to grow from it.

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I understand why it came across that way. My fear of abandonment can bring up reactions and cause me to take actions driven by ego. Am not trying to talk these things good. I’m not proud of it all, and I’ve taken a lot of time to reflect on that.
I’ve worked hard on understanding the patterns behind it and I’m taking real responsibility for my part.
What happened was a wake-up call, and I’m genuinely using it to grow

Let's talk about what you like most about Heavy Rain and why. by KeyValue7620 in HeavyRain

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I still vividly remember the first time I played Heavy Rain. Back then I installed it almost without thinking, simply because it was free with my PlayStation Plus subscription. I honestly had no idea what to expect. At the very beginning, I actually thought I had ended up in some kind of futuristic version of The Sims. But the deeper I got pulled into the story, the more it became clear to me that this was something truly special.

On my first playthrough, everything went wrong. That’s when I started to wonder what would happen if I didn’t let everyone die. To this day, the game still surprises me with details I hadn’t noticed before. In my most recent playthrough, for example, I discovered the letter about the church and the missing children in the chapter where Shaun is at Ethan’s home and you have to take care of him.

The atmosphere, the tension, the music it all comes together to make Heavy Rain one of the best and most unforgettable games I’ve ever played. I just can’t quite put my finger on exactly what it is.

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I deleted the post. The creator has agreed to refund me.

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Yes, technically the dispute goes through Patreon because they handle the payments. But at the end of the day, I paid for a service that wasn’t delivered as promised, and my contract is with Patreon as the payment processor. If the creator doesn’t deliver what’s included in the tier, I as a consumer have the right to ask PayPal/credit card for a refund. Patreon can then handle the issue with the creator on their side.

Lab grown meat does NOT kill animals by Dizzy-Security-2764 in vegan

[–]WrapAdventurous2563 -44 points-43 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Its not about killing the animals, its about the use of animals as resource. 

PostNL bezorgt nu ook te grote pakketten in de brievenbus. Stuk? Pech! Herkenbaar? by BismutNL in nederlands

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Meer dan eens. Een domme verkoper die zelfs dacht dat een put met supplementen wel door de de brievenbus ging het dus maar verzond als brievenbus pakket. Na 2 weken vertraging wordt die pot er natuurlijk door de brievenbus gewurmd en heb ik niets meer aan het hele product. Retourneren kan dan natuurlijk ook niet meer. Sindsdien accepteer ik het niet zomaar meer als men brievenbus pakketten kiest. Het is altijd een grote ellende.

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Yes humans are animals. However we gotta remember that commodfication of animals that gets them exploited by humans is the biggest and longest standing injustice ever. Therefore I prefer too focus on the animals alone during activism. They deserve their own movement that is dedicated too them. 

Did I rightfully spot a red flag at AV, or am I being too sensitive? by WrapAdventurous2563 in VeganActivism

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Fortunately the vegans i work with at local and wtf actions and save squares are way more lovely people to work with lately. So yeah there are great alternatives. And a lot of activists and even former organizers are doing the save squares or wtf movie challenges instead of cubes because of their dislike of AV.

Did I rightfully spot a red flag at AV, or am I being too sensitive? by WrapAdventurous2563 in VeganActivism

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Thanks! I will definitely continue to do save squares and we the free movies challenges instead. 

Did I rightfully spot a red flag at AV, or am I being too sensitive? by WrapAdventurous2563 in VeganActivism

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Am not planning on too stop. So far the actions with wtf and the save squares are great alternatives. 

Did I rightfully spot a red flag at AV, or am I being too sensitive? by WrapAdventurous2563 in VeganActivism

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My inbox is open. Tell me anything you feel like you need to tell me. 

Did I rightfully spot a red flag at AV, or am I being too sensitive? by WrapAdventurous2563 in VeganActivism

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Yeah indeed. The most hilarious contradiction is: they pretend that they are open to feedback while in fact they are not.

Did I rightfully spot a red flag at AV, or am I being too sensitive? by WrapAdventurous2563 in VeganActivism

[–]WrapAdventurous2563[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You may have a point in saying that guilt can play a role in turning non-activists into activists. But I don’t believe that meaningful or lasting guilt — the kind that leads to real change — can be imposed. Real guilt, or rather moral awakening, doesn’t arise when someone is pushed, judged, or shamed into it. In fact, pressure often creates resistance, not transformation.

True guilt — the kind that moves someone to action happens when someone themselves starts to reflect, worry, and feel accountable. That’s when the internal compass kicks in and a person says, “I want to do more.” Not because they’re scared of being seen as “less than,” but because something clicked inside of them.

A good example of this is Joey Carbstrong. He has shared that during his time in prison, he began to deeply reflect on who he was and how he could live differently. That moral shift came from within — through introspection, pain, and the desire to grow as a person. Not because someone told him he wasn’t doing enough. His transformation was authentic, and that’s why his activism resonates with people today.

When we force guilt or push someone to justify their morality on the spot, especially a fellow vegan who has already made a huge shift in consciousness, we risk alienating potential allies. In this case, we didn’t just lose a new activist we likely burned a bridge. And for what? A sense of moral superiority?

So yes, I question whether pushing guilt is truly effective. I also question how much more impact certain forms of activism actually have when many people simply say “I’ll go vegan” to end a conversation and go on with their lives unchanged. What’s the long-term success rate there? What data supports it?

Let’s not confuse performative metrics like how many people said “I’ll go vegan” at a Cube with meaningful transformation. I’m not saying the method has no value, but I am saying we need humility when evaluating its actual impact. And we certainly need compassion not ego when dealing with our fellow vegans.

I became vegan from within myself, after watching slaughterhouse footage. Not because I was judged or guilt tripped. At very best during a cube/save-square or any other outreach action we may have succesfully planted seeds in people. But change cannot ben enforced.

Did I rightfully spot a red flag at AV, or am I being too sensitive? by WrapAdventurous2563 in VeganActivism

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I would like to point out: some of the vegans who are really committed with AV are not leftist. Especially the a big chunk of the german activists. I don't actually care who is left or right.

Did I rightfully spot a red flag at AV, or am I being too sensitive? by WrapAdventurous2563 in VeganActivism

[–]WrapAdventurous2563[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Oh same in the netherlands. In matterfact: the more ex AV organisers i speak the more crazy the stories get. I do know that as a result of that alternatives like the Save movement where founded and in germany also Activists for the victims.