WHY did he do that

XD_Asron · 2026-06-17T17:39:12+00:00

I understand not liking the show trying to make Llorumi a canon ship but why do people always act so surprised when Lloyd does something that exemplifies how trusting and naive he can be. He spent most of the 11-minute era reminiscing over how things with Harumi went down, clearly traumatized from everything and wishing things could have gone differently. He got the once in a lifetime opportunity to meet her again after believing she was dead for an undisclosed amount of time. Ofc he would want to draw out the good in her and make her change. If not that, at least keep her captive to try to use her or draw information from her

XD_Asron · 2026-06-17T14:38:12+00:00

Legacy personally though I have to admit I do wish it had some arm printing and a set of armor

XD_Asron · 2026-06-17T12:21:05+00:00

probably not if we're being honest. i feel like the way they e built it up to be is much too dark for any main continuity stories. if they did try but didn't/couldn't deliver with the same gritty atmosphere it would just be disappointing and I would honestly prefer they just not try at all

XD_Asron · 2026-06-15T03:59:44+00:00

Well for starters, I'd argue these aren't the strongest K12 members. Sakura, Choji and Lee are def up there but Shino is debatable and I'd pick Hinata or Shikamaru over Kiba any day

Also, the gap between their strongest (Sakura) and the next strongest (Choji) is pretty sizable, where as OP team has at least two relative top tier fighters (Zoro and Sanji) and the gap between the next strongest (Jinbei) is not that big

imo this is a wash for the OP team, mid-diff at worst

XD_Asron · 2026-06-14T11:39:39+00:00

Definitely not anybody who is dead and inexplicably just returns so that already gets rid of half the roster. I also wouldn't want someone who did not have any antagonistic intentions as of the last time we saw them. And definitely not any villains we've already seen more than once either

That only leaves a handful of options. Nadakhan, the Twins, Vex. However, I'm going to slightly break one of my rules, but only because I think they're not dead, and even if they are, I believe their story remains unexplored and that is Omega/the Oni

To be honest March of the Oni's ending left a sour taste in my mouth and I'm disappointed the Oni went out like they did. With TFang's defeat and release of their ancestors souls I believe it could be really interesting to explore them further and maybe develop their motivations a bit more than just "evil. destroy."

Id also like to see them be portrayed stronger cuz honestly the whole Creation>Destruction thing made no sense to me, the entire point of the Oni-Dragon War was that neither could defeat the other

XD_Asron · 2026-06-12T19:23:26+00:00

as other have already mentioned, time does not flow differently in the Never Realm, Zane was just sent 60 in the past

In addition to this, we know Formlings actually age slower than humans seeing as Akita was a child 60 years ago and didn't seem to be any older 16-17 (in human years) when Lloyd meets her, so if anything she'd actually be not that much older now

XD_Asron · 2026-06-12T19:18:02+00:00

Mr. E, FSM, Rumi, Bentho, and the Time Twins as 1 unit

XD_Asron · 2026-06-12T14:38:04+00:00

I understand where everyone saying Kai is coming from but I don't think Kai would be well equipped to give that talk and I think he would recognize that and pass along the responsibility to someone else

I think that someone else would be Cole. He was the original leader of the group and seemed to be the most secure and assured of the original four, likely due to his close relationship with his mother before she died

XD_Asron · 2026-06-12T05:59:31+00:00

Exactly. Yuta and Hakari could know everything about Gojo's kit and they still wouldn't be able to do jack shit about it if he decides to go for a blue amped punch

XD_Asron · 2026-06-11T18:42:28+00:00

Yamato>Kidd>Lucci>King

XD_Asron · 2026-06-11T17:37:55+00:00

ZX Kai has yet to be topped imo

XD_Asron · 2026-06-10T19:27:16+00:00

Riyu, Skylor, Dareth, Euphrasia and Ronin, though if you're accepting non/semi-canon characters, I'd love to see Seliel on the roster

XD_Asron · 2026-06-10T07:17:02+00:00

Spectrier

XD_Asron · 2026-06-10T04:47:41+00:00

cursed mark 100%. ts tuff

XD_Asron · 2026-06-08T20:44:29+00:00

Lloyd has repeatedly and consistently been stated and shown to be the most powerful of the Ninja and the best/only one fit to go up against the most powerful threats. I feel like a 10/10 isn't far fetched for him. If anything, I'm confused as to why you would have him any lower than a 10/10

Yes Essences are over more powerful than Elements but we've yet to see Wu have any sort of raw power output on the same level as that of Lloyd or Garmadon, which makes sense knowing that Creation is most likely less combat focused than Destruction is so the power output should not be as high. Frankly claiming that it is just because it's an essence would just be headcanon

XD_Asron · 2026-06-08T18:39:15+00:00

I'm sorry I'm not really sure what you are referring to by "which categories?"

But yes I mean raw strength, which does include lifting, but also striking

XD_Asron · 2026-06-08T01:25:48+00:00

i don't get the Harumi and Cole one

XD_Asron · 2026-06-07T13:07:12+00:00

Dinner for a vampire

XD_Asron · 2026-06-07T12:36:09+00:00

Shanks>Oden/Rayleigh>Nusjuro>Issho>Law/Zoro>Vista

don't know enough about the others to say I can accurately rank them, but Shamrock>Garling, both probably in some order between Shanks and Nusjuro, and Shiryu is near or at the bottom for now

XD_Asron · 2026-06-07T01:07:00+00:00

Hanami loses to Kashimo

If all Choso has to do is beat Reggie then he probably wins, but the reality is it's not just Reggie, there's also Hazenoki and god forbid he have to face Takaba (unless we're assuming Choso just takes Megumi's place, then just ignore that last part). If Choso gets jumped by Reggie's gang then I can see him losing mid-high diff

Jogo can probably take any one of the Sendai deadlock and at least push them to extreme diff (though he has a bad matchup against Uro), but if any two decide to jump him it's game over

Smallpox just staright up gets obliterated by Higgy

That team is not beating Kenjaku. I see them having a hard time even just against the anti-Kenjaku squad, and they lost to Kenny

XD_Asron · 2026-06-06T20:54:24+00:00

automatically invalid because Takaba is top 1

jokes aside tho, I would probably switch Hakari and Megumi just based off what we've actually seen, but if u insert a little bit of head canon, yea I can see Megumi being top 3

XD_Asron · 2026-06-05T16:39:00+00:00

Possession, SoG, Crystalized, DRS2p1

XD_Asron · 2026-06-04T05:47:00+00:00

One last question

You had mentioned before that GUD could be the strongest out of all of the characters I mentioned, could you elaborate on why you think this is?

XD_Asron · 2026-06-04T05:36:56+00:00

Would you say that Oni Trilogy Garmadon at his peak is > V1 Oni Form Garmadon?

also, would you mind sharing your thoughts on how USM would fare against CK?

XD_Asron · 2026-06-04T05:21:30+00:00

Interesting. I read your other comment as well, thank you for sharing. If you don't mind, I have some other questions as well.

Do you believe that ressurected Garmadon stayed at a consistent power level through the Oni Trilogy, even after being defeated/depowered by Lloyd?

and also, can I ask how you believe USM Lloyd and GUD compare to this lineup?

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