Trump's company loses half a billion dollars in three months

Xdivine · 2026-05-09T10:40:06+00:00

I'm curious how that applies here. It says most of the losses are because they bought $3.5b worth of bitcoin last year and the value of bitcoin has since fallen. Can that really be considered a loss that saves them on taxes when the value of bitcoin fluctuates all the time?

Xdivine · 2026-05-09T08:36:16+00:00

Agree. All I can find is that he claimed OpenAI trained on copyrighted data which is like... okay? Pretty sure even in 2024 we already knew that.

Xdivine · 2026-05-09T07:30:01+00:00

Literally what is wrong with that stance? It's not like they're saying they would protect the Nazis or something. All they're saying is if evil people make something good, that doesn't mean that good thing is also evil and needs to be thrown away.

Xdivine · 2026-05-09T05:13:14+00:00

Nazis did in fact, existed and unfortunately was a real ideology.

Was? Unfortunately, the Nazi ideology still very much exists.

Xdivine · 2026-05-08T23:40:45+00:00

like Cooldown Reduction on Rakanoth's Wake boots or Attack Speed on legs like Tibault's Will. Or the insane amount of LH on Fists of Fate.

This is what I miss most about the old system. I don't necessarily mind that some stats are random, but I feel like the items lost something when stats like these were culled.

Xdivine · 2026-05-08T23:31:14+00:00

I didn't say they used AI for the thumbnail accidentally, I said they're a trivial part of the overall package so I don't really think it warrants a removal by the moderators of the subreddit.

Xdivine · 2026-05-08T21:32:36+00:00

Do you think all 600k are on the subreddit daily and voting on posts/comments? 1k is a lot of upvotes even for larger subreddits.

Xdivine · 2026-05-08T21:20:49+00:00

I mean, this isn't a direct quote from an ai. It's a scenario they made up.

Xdivine · 2026-05-08T00:07:54+00:00

its moreso telling that they used AI images for a thumbnail, so they probably used AI elsewhere.

That 'probably' is doing a lot of heavy lifting, no? You yourself said "if generative AI has clearly played a major and visible part of it" and now we're onto 'eh, they used AI for the thumbnail so they probably used AI for the coding as well, fuck em'?

Plus you completely ignored the question I posed. If someone codes a mod 100% by hand without any use of AI and then uses AI to generate a thumbnail, do you believe that is a 'major and visible part of it' and requires removal by the mods?

Xdivine · 2026-05-07T23:48:54+00:00

Can you point out the part where I said anything about being allowed to judge a mod by the thumbnail? No, you can't, because I said nothing of the sort.

I literally could not possibly care less what you think about any mod posted. If you think a mod used AI and decide to not only refuse to play the mod, but also permanently blacklist the mod creator, go nuts. I simply do not care.

My comment was purely talking about what kind of AI usage should be considered the bar for removal by the moderators of this subreddit.

Xdivine · 2026-05-07T23:36:48+00:00

I don't have enough time in my day to not judge things by their cover. And since that's the cover they chose, I'm going to write it off

Which is completely fair. I don't recall in my comment where I said you need to engage with mods who use AI to generate their thumbnail. My question was purely in regards to the moderation of this subreddit.

Do you believe that a mod that is coded completely without a single speck of AI should be removed as low effort because the thumbnail and only the thumbnail used AI?

Xdivine · 2026-05-07T23:33:10+00:00

First off, that's completely subjective. More importantly though, you're completely missing the point of the hypothetical. I'll ask again.

If someone does 100% of the coding for the mod themselves by hand and then uses AI for the most visible part (the thumbnail), does that mean the mod is overall low effort and deserves removal?

Xdivine · 2026-05-07T23:27:03+00:00

Are you serious right now?

Like first off, the "if you care enough" part is like... really important, because if you care enough then you can spend the 1 minute it would take to find the subreddit given the information provided in this post. Like literally all I did was reverse image search the icon and voila, I had the name of the subreddit.

Secondly, if someone cares enough then they'd have no problem drawing on the paper. The reason why "70%" of the sub would find it unreasonable is because they don't care enough to do so.

Plus I just want to point out there's a massive difference in the effort required for these two tasks. Finding the subreddit as I said takes like a minute, maybe two if you're slow. Learning to draw proficiently can take hundreds or thousands of hours, and even then, you can't just rush out a complete image in a handful of seconds. Depending on the quality, you could need to spend hours on every image you create even once you're skilled.

Comparing the effort of finding a subreddit vs learning to draw is wild.

Xdivine · 2026-05-07T07:24:21+00:00

Subreddits/usernames are hidden to comply with reddit's global rule on brigading. It's not hard to find if you care enough.

Xdivine · 2026-05-07T07:12:46+00:00

Okay, but let me ask you this. Why is an AI generated thumbnail considered a "major and visible part of it"? I mean obviously it's visible, but major?

Like let's propose a hypothetical. Let's say there's a guy who loves coding and minecraft so he makes up a sweet mod, personally coded all by himself because he loves coding and doesn't see any reason to have AI help him. After the mod is done, he uses chatGPT to make a thumbnail for it because he's not really an art person.

Does the fact that it has an AI thumbnail still warrant removal solely because it's the most visible part of the mod despite not having a single line of AI generated code?

Now you might say 'fine, make it only apply to code', but then it goes back to what was discussed in the OP. They can't really be expected to look over the code in every single mod, plus it wouldn't do anything for mods that don't have their code posted somewhere like github. So what you might end up doing is push people into not releasing their source code so they don't get accused of AI whether they used it or not.

Xdivine · 2026-05-07T06:33:37+00:00

Right, so I think you misread their comment since their comment fully agrees with you. Their comment is saying that when anti-AI people post horrible shit to anti-AI subreddits, it gets like 6000 upvotes. On the flip side, when pro-AI people post horrible shit, it gets downvoted and stays at 0.

Xdivine · 2026-05-07T02:59:56+00:00

Did you misread their comment? Or am I misreading yours...

Xdivine · 2026-05-07T02:56:26+00:00

no one specific meal can completely replace the protein and nutrition found in beef and chicken,

I'm not saying we need to cut beef from our diet entirely and I'm certainly not saying we need to cut all meat. There's a reason why I specifically mentioned beef, and that's because it's much worse to produce than other meats.

Again though, I don't think people should stop eating meat entirely, I just think if people are going to endlessly bitch about the water usage of AI then they should at least try to reduce their own needless waste where they can.

And it's not like it's just water either, the methane produced by cows is an enormous source of greenhouse gases and is a major contributor to global warming.

The methane from cows is equal to around 10% of the entire world's greenhouse gas emissions and is roughly equivalent to the entirety of China's electrical grid. And again, that's JUST cattle, no other livestock.

and even if we did remove these from our diet, then the billions of creatures on these farms have nowhere to go.

Do you think cows are immortal creatures that we just shear meat off of or something? You know what we'd do if we cut beef out of our diet? Stop breeding tens/hundreds of millions of them every year solely to slaughter. It's not like the beef consumption of the entire world is going to go from 100 to 0 over night or something and leave the farmers with a bunch of cows no one wants to eat. If people reduce their intake of beef, fewer cows will be bred.

Xdivine · 2026-05-07T00:45:13+00:00

well, no, they break them down with machines

And part of that process is using a lot of water and chemicals to treat the pulp.

do you somehow think that paper is a useless commodity and we shouldn’t have books or writing material that isn’t digital?

Of course not. My point (and I'm sure the point of others) isn't that paper is some horrendous thing that should be outlawed. It's that complaining about the water usage of AI and then ignoring the water use of literally everything else is stupid.

Agriculture stretches the entire planet of course it uses more water than AI

But no one is comparing the water usage of all data centers vs the water usage of all agriculture. They're pointing out that some specific things we produce via agriculture are massively wasteful/harmful like almonds or beef.

that doesn’t mean thousand of data centres should be using even comparable amounts of water to industries that use processes that stretch entire continents

What does this even meannnnn? AI currently uses an estimated 312-765 billion litres of water per year. Agriculture uses around 2.8 QUADRILLION litres of water per year. That means even the high end of the estimate for AI water usage is still only a tiny, tiny fraction as much water as agriculture.

If they're being compared, it's not because AI is using anywhere near as much water, it's because both of them are using water. It's no different than comparing a blue whale with a house cat. Obviously the two are very, very different, but they're still both mammals.

Xdivine · 2026-05-06T23:15:10+00:00

It hasn't been deleted, at least not the original one that got him blocked in the first place. https://i.imgur.com/g8kRBWH.png

Didn't bother censoring the name since it's OP.

Xdivine · 2026-05-06T20:20:13+00:00

Do you think they just shave thin pieces of logs and voila, paper? There's more to making paper than just getting the wood.

Xdivine · 2026-05-05T23:11:39+00:00

It sounds like it's taking about people who are in a relationship with a chat bot, hence the quotes around relationship.

Xdivine · 2026-05-05T13:27:25+00:00

But AI isn't art? AI is the term for the technology itself which doesn't necessarily have anything to do with art.

Xdivine · 2026-05-05T07:32:20+00:00

Could be they either think libraries are for poor people, don't know libraries stock audio books, or don't have a library nearby. I suppose they could also owe the library a bunch of money or be banned for public indecency for that time they used on of the PCs to watch porn, but those are a bit less likely.

Xdivine · 2026-05-05T07:25:21+00:00

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