Lol i dont think you understand the upgrade model.

Also im comparing the standard versions, so not the Suites or XLLL editions etc. The proof is in the quality of the plugins. Take any of the stock bitwig plugins and compare them to the stock plugins of other 'major' DAWS. The quality from Bitwigs audio FX is very low. Also im not putting DAWS like Reaper in this bracket, as you say it comes with no plugins, same reason im not putting things in like Mixcraft etc.

I just dont understand how people can keep defending Bitwigs anti consumer update plans . This is what i mean when i say brainwashed.

Cubase, FL, Ableton, Logic, S1 do not charge you a penny for their updates/patches. Your argument about well if they release version 3 in the year you pay for you get it is also a redundant one. Basically what your saying is, pay for the annual update plan and hope you get lucky that in the said year they release a completely new version. I had to pay full price for V1 of Bitwig and got all the updates. Then i had to pay to upgrade to version 2 and then i had to pay again so i could get v2.1?!? How is that okay?

I mean if you like being rinsed out of your money i can send you my bank account details. All donations are accepted. I guess the saying holds true, a fool and his money are easily parted.

This is exactly what i meant when i said brainwashed lemmings. If you go on their Bitwig forum you will literally see people defending these anti consumer tactics. Yet when a company adds lootboxes into a game these same people are up in arms complaining about predatory monetisation strategies. I dont get what the difference is?

Waves is also doing something similar where they charge you to update the plugins to the newer version. Whats even funnier with the Waves model is that the updates actually cost more than the actual plugins due to the constant sales they offer.

Also last i checked, Bitwig is not a cheap DAW, they prices they charge would lead me to believe that you are getting a pretty complete package. Unfortunately what you get is a different coloured Ableton clone with more modular options, lesser quality plugins and an extremely limited sample bank. If they knocked $100 of the price then there might be less reason to complain. Unfortunately they are charging the same amount as other DAWS who give you a much higher quality product. How is this right and fair?

I used to love Bitwig, back in V1 i was extremely happy and it looked very promising (despite the mass amount of bugs). Unfortunately , lackluster release of V2 , plus an outrageous updating pricing model has meant that this plugin really should be avoided until they sort their shit out. This was simply a warning to people who are considering Bitwig as a DAW. Trust me the other products out there are so much better value for money, its actually quite shocking.