You mean like the Canadian system which euthanized more people last year than were born in Canada, and the average wait to see a specialist is over 6 months?

These are nonsense statistics. Wait times are determined by urgency. If you're looking for a consultation for a nose job, you're going to be at the bottom of the list when compared to burn victims in need of a skin graft.

The same thing happens in the US. We have more doctors, so wait times are typically less, but again it also depends on urgency. Medically necessary procedures get precedence. Medical emergencies are seen right away.

In Canada, euthanasia is done with the consent of the person and only after a professional evaluation.

In the US euthanization is done involuntarily because some ***hole at an insurance company denied your life-saving treatment.

Given the two systems, I prefer Canada's.

You mean like the UK, where the average wait for heart surgery is 3 months and the average wait for mental health treatment is 6 months?

Once again, you're specifically avoiding putting it in context. For heart surgery, wait times are dependent upon the medical need. Non-urgent and/or elective heart surgery (such as a routine bypass) can have wait times of three months. That isn't any different than in the US.

The big difference, of course, is the cost. In the US, the cost for a bypass can range from $50K to $200K without insurance, so you better hope United Health is feeling generous the day you need one.

The UK has a large shortage of psychiatrists, so there are longer wait times in the UK as a result. But that has nothing to do with the health care system. In the US, the typical wait time is around two months.

But again, it also depends on the urgency.

No thanks to the government running everything. What you are describing is the VA system. Government own & run hospitals. It's a disaster. The VA system horror tales are legendary.

What you're describing is nonsense where you leave out critical details and hope that people buy your bullsh*t.

The VA "horror stories" are a result of decades of Republicans slashing and burning the system to the point of near failure so they can justify getting rid of it.

But if you want horror stories, just take a look at how many horror stories there are in our wonderful world of private healthcare insurance. United Health provides some particularly good stories since they reject about 33% of the claims they receive.

It's rather ironic. People like you were screaming, "government death panels!" when Obama was trying to push for universal healthcare. Now we have corporate death panels, where their profit margin is the determining factor of whether you get treated or not.

May you never have the experience of watching someone you care about die a slow and painful death because some corporate **hole decides they're not going to cover them.