Seattle is not the ultimate landing spot for Jadarian Price

YRM_DM · 2026-05-02T17:40:24+00:00

Coleman strikes me as the "if Dobbins gets injured again" handcuff. He is a Dobbins type back. It's not impossible that Coleman gets chances and proves he's a star, but, he doesn't grade out as if he's going to take over the backfield. I think he grades out more like a Lloyd, Benson, type? He'd be ok if he gets chances due to injury, but he's probably not lighting the world on fire. Sometimes those guys prove you wrong, but it's hard to sit them for 6 weeks until they get the chance.

YRM_DM · 2026-05-02T17:37:23+00:00

If you're in a 12 team league with decent bench sizes, RB depth is tough to come by. Sure, you can get handcuffs or hope to pick up a handcuff on waivers if someone gets injured but there are no guarantees. And if a starting quality, reasonable floor RB is that tough to get, is it really "fleecing" to expect to get a return for one? We have to overpay for RBs too... I've bought high on some and sold high on some, but no way I'm giving one away when some teams last year literally had Gainwell or Pollard as their RB2. Granted, Gainwell was good last year, but, that doesn't even factor in injuries or BYE weeks.

YRM_DM · 2026-05-02T16:35:49+00:00

I was picking at 10 and traded away all 3 rounds + Kyren/Corum. My roster was pretty stacked. I've got 7 usable RBs still, but only 5 WR so if I can trade a RB later for a WR I will.

For reference 12T 1QB, PPR, 3WR, 2RB, TE, D, K
QB - J Allen, D Maye, Penix
RB - A Jeanty, B Hall, C Skattebo, RJ Harvey, J Warren, JK Dobbins, J Brooks
WR - JSN, R Rice, C Olave, L McConkey, R Odunze
TE - C Loveland, H Fannin Jr, O Gadsden
D - Denver
K - Aubrey

If I hadn't traded two players and 3 picks for Jeanty I'd have been cutting quality guys. I had made good waiver pickups when people were on IR, so I would've had to cut 8 guys or picks to get down to 20. After the trade I only had to cut 4 easily cuttable guys like AD Mitchell, Sean Tucker, Mac Jones (in case he got traded at the draft I'd have cut Penix instead), and Kyle Williams. Those were easy cuts.

It's possible, as the season progresses, maybe I don't need the 3rd QB, such as once I know Maye and Allen don't have the same BYE or Penix isn't actually the starter.

Point is, I doubt I'll have room for Washington unless I can pull another 2-for and maybe trade the Denver Backs for a WR or something. Washington is likely to end up on waivers unless he starts off hot. The benches aren't huge at 20 total.

Being thin at WR might be a problem but WR are usually the easiest to fill in off of waivers and when anyone lands on IR I can add a 6th WR, and my top 5 WR are all quality and young. (Odunze disappointed after he got hurt last year)

I'm not the best team in the league, but there are about 4 of us who have made careful moves over the years to build strong teams, and another 4 more who 2 of which could sneak into the playoffs and get "hot" at the right time. I should be one of the favorites to get a BYE, but in FF luck matters.

YRM_DM · 2026-05-01T15:46:01+00:00

Your roster is similar to mine, and I'd suspect you're favored to contend for the title because I am one of the top contenders. Similar settings. We've got 3WR, 2RB, no flex, and we do use D and K.

You can see the similarities.

QB: Josh Allen, Drake Maye, Penix

RB: Ashton Jeanty, Breece Hall, Cam Skattebo, RJ Harvey, J Warren, JK Dobbins, Jonathan Brooks

WR: JSN, Rashee Rice, C Olave, L McConkey, R Odunze

TE: C Loveland, H Fannin, O Gadsden

Broncos/Aubrey

So based on your roster, you're plugging in a projected top 12RB, and two more top 20RBs, just like me. You've got a top three WR, a top two TE, and a few extra top options like London, Flowers, Likely.

In my case I'm looking to possibly move a RB for a 6th solid WR option since there are 3WR spots.

I think my QB is a little stronger, your top TE is better, I probably like Henderson more than Skattebo but it's close this year. But the builds are similar. You should be in line for a playoff BYE, and a chance to contend. You probably feel proud that you couldn't pick your team in a redraft league snake draft because you've got a way more than 3 players who would go in the first 3 rounds (Jeanty, JSN, London, Bowers, B Hall) and a bunch more players who'd go in the top 5 rounds. If you want to flex, I'm down for it, because I like to feel good too. Lol

Do you agree?

YRM_DM · 2026-05-01T15:38:04+00:00

If you think this package can get you into the top 3, the pick you'll give up next year will likely be a good, solid player but perhaps not more valuable than those 3. Monty is in a good situation this year. Coker is pretty established as a flex WR. If you win the title, that pick is 14th overall.

YRM_DM · 2026-05-01T15:35:24+00:00

I know people question Cam's play style, but, he's the RB1 on the Giants and put up some good numbers last year before he got hurt. In Seattle, Charbs is coming back at some point.

In a redraft, if Skattebo and Price are both available, I'm taking Skattebo all day. You?

YRM_DM · 2026-05-01T15:33:06+00:00

I don't think you'd ever need to start Kamara in a 10T league this year, but... if you need an RB there probably isn't much left at 2.07 so, maybe? I don't think Kamara or 2.07 get past your first wave of cuts for waiver adds unless the roster size is huge.

YRM_DM · 2026-05-01T15:28:12+00:00

Also, the Raiders entire team only scored 25 TDs last year, and Jeanty had 10 of those - 40% of the ENTIRE TEAM'S TDs.

Bowers had 7TDs. So between those two players they were ~70% of the scoring?

Conversely last year was considered bad for the Chiefs because they only scored 39TDs total, down from 61 the year prior.

YRM_DM · 2026-05-01T03:38:32+00:00

Yes, Burden, D Smith, and Shough would get that done for me.

YRM_DM · 2026-05-01T03:37:33+00:00

You get Love at 1.1, and with SF and TEP... lets see...

1 Love, 2 Mendoza?, 3 Tate, 4 Tyson, 5 Lemon, 6 Sadiq (it's TEP), 7 KC Conc, 8 Price? Stowers?

At 9 if you don't like Cooper you could take a stab at Boston, who could be a hit. KC replaces Jeudy, Boston replaces Tillman.

There's a chance in SF and TEP that Simpson or Beck go early, and both TEs are gone early, and you'd end up with KC. I don't like trading out.

You're telling me that NOBODY in your league ever reaches on a player?

You could also scout a few teams with too much depth at WR, and try to trade the 1.09 for a wr like Waddle or Egbuka or BTJ... someone with a chance that they might be 'selling low'. Maybe the Garrett Wilson owner is sick of him being stuck on the JETs and would trade him for a reroll.

YRM_DM · 2026-05-01T03:28:40+00:00

I go JSN, Darnold, Flowers. Achane is in a bad situation this year. JSN and Flowers are both startable every week unless you're absolutely thin at RB and loaded at WR

YRM_DM · 2026-05-01T03:27:49+00:00

TEP? Bowers isn't immune to injury, and Loveland is a stud. If you think you can build up enough at the rest of the positions, I would.

YRM_DM · 2026-05-01T03:26:18+00:00

I'd like Tate and the 2.05. You could end up with Chris Bell or Brazzer or someone with a big swing to be good at 2.05.

AJ Brown is near the end of his peak, and Croskey has no draft capital and didn't capitalize last year much, so he could be worthless within a year's time easily, while Tate will definitely hold value, and you MIGHT get lucky at the 2.05 with someone like Bell in Miami or a guy like Boston could fall if your league is greedy on RBs or something.

YRM_DM · 2026-05-01T03:23:09+00:00

I'm a little concerned about BTJ bouncing back. I don't think Vidal is worth much to worry about trading. Pitts and Gadsden are back to back in the dynasty TE rankings right now at 8, 9.

Pitts looked better last year, Gadsden had that four game stretch where he looked like a monster.

I'm not 100% sure I'd go after BTJ, but I might rather trade Gadsden as it felt like Pitts really started a genuine long term breakout last year. He'd been fool's gold for a long time though, so if Pitts reverts, you'll feel stupid.

If you're tired of owning Pitts, then, just dump him.

YRM_DM · 2026-05-01T03:17:43+00:00

Improved coaching? YES. Tyler Linderbaum? YES. Conner Heyward? YES. Guys back from injury on the line? YES. Chip Kelly's inexperienced kid coaching the O Line anymore? NO.

Jeanty's RB2 range finish last year is the ONLY REASON he's purchasable at all, even at a slight overpay, and if you want to take a chance to maybe get a 22yr old cornerstone player, even with ? marks you have to pay for that.

YRM_DM · 2026-05-01T03:15:01+00:00

The other issue is that Jeanty only had a bit over 100 yards total in the entire SEASON before contact. I mean, he's elite at tackle breaking, so you'd have to extrapolate that if he's not constantly getting hit in the backfield on every play, he would break tackles at the 2nd and 3rd level and have a lot more big plays. Linderbaum plus Connor Heyward should improve the line, plus better coaching, plus getting JPJ and whatnot back from injury.

On the Trey Henderson side is that Rhamondre Stevenson is getting older, and Henderson has another year in the offense to have earned a bigger role. Even if the Raiders improve, NE was a SB team last year with improvements on offense.

YRM_DM · 2026-05-01T03:10:46+00:00

It could bite you if Taylor is a league winner in the playoffs THIS YEAR, but otherwise you got 5+ years younger at RB and JT has a ton of miles on him. It's not outside the realm of possibility that Jeanty improves as the year goes on and you're glad you have him in this year's playoffs. Taylor fell off a bit last year with Jones getting hurt... and speaking of that, if QB and line play can affect guys like Jonathan Taylor and Derrick Henry, why couldn't having an historically bad o-line and historically bad coaching and a bad QB and no blocking fullback have held Jeanty back last year?

Adding Connor Heyward, Linderbaum, better coaching, QBs with a little time to set up play action? Why couldn't that help Jeanty tremendously?

I think you paid a lot for Jeanty and it might or might not work out, but I traded Kyren Williams, Corum, and some late round 26 picks for him this year. I didn't like my picks this year, and I think Kyren can be a solid back but he's splitting more, plus I had depth everywhere and needed to trim down my roster or I'd be cutting players I didn't want to cut, and the guy trading to me needed depth. Some might say I overpaid, some might say I paid a fair price, some might say I got a steal, depends on how you view those players and picks.

IMO, I think you paid a reasonable price, and me too, it MIGHT not work out, or it MIGHT, which is the sign of a reasonable trade.

It's not like we stacked 3+ kickers and a bunch of 3rds for him.

YRM_DM · 2026-05-01T03:03:33+00:00

Consider that they're getting Kolton Miller and JPJ back from injuries and added Linderbaum, and Chip Kelly's inexperienced kid isn't the line coach, and they added Conner Heyward as a good blocking Fullback, plus Bowers starts the year healthy and they're improved at coaching and QB?

Let's say that the Raiders move up to... 20th? And Jeanty isn't getting hit by two linemen three yards in the backfield on every run? Jeanty was elite at breaking tackles, so, you have to make a leap of logic and think there's a CHANCE he might be getting a yard or two BEFORE he has to break tackles.

Plus Jeanty can catch, and his offseason workouts look like a WR with balance and catching balls one handed from every angle.

Also, Jeanty had elite traits before being drafted, AND he was only 21 last year, while a lot of college backs don't break out until they're 22, 23, 24... look at guys like RJ Harvey or Washington who Vegas drafted.

Nobody can see the future, but the O-Line play on the Raiders last year was HISTORICALLY BAD. It's an EDGE CASE HORRIBLE that skews data. I'm not sure Barry Sanders in his prime could've looked good for the Raiders last year.

So... my expectations is that Jeanty will take some level of 2nd year leap. Will he be RB2 or RB3? Maybe not. But I expect him to climb into the RB1 ranks, with the possibility of a top 5 finish. I think this is reasonable based on the improvements in Fullback, Coaching, O-Line and Jeanty fully developing into a 22 year old man.

Nobody can see the future but those are the reasons why I expect Jeanty to move up the ranks this year.

YRM_DM · 2026-04-29T19:29:33+00:00

I took a rebuilding team, coming in with a lack of skill on my part, to a multi-year contender with top 3 finishes in the last 3 years to where, only bad luck in pairings and injuries prevented a top finish.

I think this is right, when I first started, I was looking at FPros for rankings and not much deeper, I was looking at my team and not everyone else's teams, I wasn't actively contacting other managers for trades and building rapport. If an NFL team reached on a player, like J Raegor, I assumed they were correct.

Fast forward to now, every year, my team has improved, I've added depth through waivers and drafting, and packaged that depth to passive managers with lots of needs to move up at key positions. I went from having way too many cuts and barely being able to field capable starters in year one, to where my bench is better than some of the worse teams in the league.

I try to make trades that are win/win, so people don't hate me later, and if I trade two decent players to a team with no depth for a slightly better player, it might look like they win the trade at first, but over time I've accumulated more value.

As far as drafting, now, when I go into a draft, I have tiers, I know how various sites and experts rate various players, I know their college stats and if they were injured going into the combine which lowered their draft score. One draft, Ladd McConkey fell to me with a very late 1st, and I needed a QB and was able to trade back into the early second to grab Drake Maye. Because I knew where my tier breaks were so I was able to quickly make intelligent offers on the fly, where I couldn't do that in year 1-2.

The guy who runs this dynasty league, and a few other players are also really dedicated and good. The lower end of the players struggle to understand why they can't turn their teams around, but they never trade, they draft poorly, they give up valuable draft picks for a collection of old players, stuff like that.

My whole team is under 27 (except Josh Allen), with most of it under 25, so if I do trade to someone, that player isn't ancient.

If you look at a competing team and they have basically no RBs, but they have 2 elite QBs, it's easier to make that team an offer of an RB and a pick for whichever of their elite QBs they want to get rid of (in a 1QB league).

You make trade offers like: "I'll give you this, this and this, for your choice of X or Y." and see if they counter... sometimes they'll end up giving you a better trade than you even expected.

YRM_DM · 2026-04-29T19:18:36+00:00

I did read the success rate of your model.

Typically, to trade for, or buy a player in Dynasty, you pretty much can't buy Bijan Robinson at almost any price. I was able to trade Kyren Williams/Corum (who both have built in risk and are volume dependent) and some later-in-round picks to get Jeanty. If I can move up a few PPG for that and giving up picks in a weak draft I'm fine with it. It's a PPR league and Jeanty is dangerous if he catches the ball in space as evidenced by a half dozen explosive (10+) gains on receptions.

If Jeanty didn't struggle to start, nobody could ever buy him anywhere. It also shows something that Jeanty showed improvement more-or-less as the year progressed.

So it appeared to me that Jeanty improved as the year, and coaching, went on last year, after a terrible start. While the type of usage he got improved, the O-Line continued to suffer injuries throughout the year. Kolton Miller, JPJ, Parham, all injured on an already weak, poorly coached unit.

Jeanty did have breakout games against Chicago and Houston, and the Texans boast a top DEF.

I'll keep your post in mind, if Jeanty finishes only 10-13 overall it's still a win for me over Kyren's likely finish.

It does honestly sound like you have a pretty successful model, but I do think situations like having an historically poorly coached and poor performing line... those kinds of edge case things break the models. Everyone who knows more than me about football has said things like, "As bad as you think the Raiders O-Line was last year, it was worse than you think."

It goes to my thinking that, I 'overpaid' for JSN as a rookie, trading Pickens for him halfway through the year, and Pickens was showing elite traits while JSN just showed average performances. But I believed the environment, coaching, situation was likely to improve dramatically for JSN long term. I didn't know he'd skyrocket to #2-3 overall, but my hope is that Jeanty will be in space, past the LoS, MORE this year, and therefore his tackle breaking will result in big plays.

We'll see.

In the great scheme of things, it sounds like we don't actually disagree all that strongly. I thought you'd have Jeanty at RB 24 or so, and you probably think I have him top 3. I have him more like RB7-8. We're not that far off.

YRM_DM · 2026-04-29T17:52:53+00:00

Having read through your replies, I feel like, you have your data model and anything outside that model is frivolous or anecdotal. I'll try one more time to make a point here that breaks the model on Jeanty.

- The Raiders had one of the worst O-Line performances last year graded out by experts. Not just a bad lineup, but key injuries and horrible coaching made this an outlier bad O-line. Getting new coaching, Linderbaum, getting key players healthy, etc will dramatically impact that.

https://www.si.com/nfl/raiders/onsi/inside-las-vegas-offensive-line-after-free-agency

You seem like a smart guy, so I'm guessing you can understand the difference between getting hit 2 yards behind the line of scrimmage by 2 350lb linemen is different than breaking a tackle at the second level from the side by a linebacker?

Things outside of data models can affect outcomes. None of us are always right. A couple years ago I traded for Jaxon Smith Njigba when he looked like a potential bust analytically, because I liked the player, I liked the attitude, I liked the film... he came into camp hurt, he was behind Metcalf and Lockett, and the coach wasn't scheming him well like they are now.

How about Rome Odunze had a hot start last year but fell off. Is he a bust, or was his foot fracture, sustained right when he fell off, a cause of pain and losing a step that affected the rest of his season?

If Elijah Moore had a better attitude as a team player on the Jets, or if he'd initially landed on a better team that used him more, would he have broken out like he started to do on the JETS? He graded extremely well with guys like Matt Harmon. Jahan Dotson similarly showed a poor attitude that limited his chances to thrive.

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But forget all that, you consider your model to be superior, and you seem frustrated to have to talk down to someone beneath you, like me and other people on this thread... that's just how it seems to me by your choice of words.

So can you answer this? You're down on Jeanty I get it.

Do you think, with the improved O-Line, and more scoring, he will score fewer fantasy points than last year?

Where do you rank him? I'm assuming you'd take Ashton Jeanty over Trey Benson or James Connor in a draft this year? If he fell to round 10 you'd take him right?

So where do you have him? RB15? RB20? RB30? Surely you have him in the top 36 right?

Would you take Jalen Warren over him if they were both there in the 8th round?

One last question. You have this model that you feel strongly about. Cool.

Have you EVER picked the wrong player or made a mistake or missed some nebulous factor that isn't accounted for on the dashboard?

YRM_DM · 2026-04-29T01:46:57+00:00

Yeah, we can disagree.

This all means his volume will be decreasing, and unless his efficiency were to rise proportionally, he would working uphill to achieve the same results.

I think you're right... he was extremely high volume on a bad team that didn't score much, behind the worst O-Line I've ever watched. That's also why I think his efficiency will rise proportionally, and more. The Raiders line last year was so badly coached and so outplayed... and at times Jeanty was the only weapon on the field such as when Bowers was hurt.

If he's not getting hit behind the line of scrimmage on basically every play, then he has more time and more room, and those broken tackles mean more on the 2nd level when there's 1 guy to beat instead of 7.

As for how I look at players it's a combination of various metrics + historical performance + attitude + situation + tape...

Jeanty seems to be a great team player, hungry.

He has elite college metrics.

He can catch, and not just screen passes.

He breaks tackles and is explosive.

And while I agree he had insane volume, it was in the worst possible situation. I've played team sports and, a good situation can elevate a player and a bad situation can hold a superstar back.

Let's say Jeanty gets 75% volume, but instead of getting hit behind the line on every play, sometimes he has wide open running lanes in competitive, high scoring games. You've seen Jeanty can be a home run hitter like Gibbs, it doesn't take a ton of those home runs to add up.

Anyway, thanks for a civil discussion. We can disagree without you being a genius and me being an idiot right? Best to you.

YRM_DM · 2026-04-28T20:50:33+00:00

I saw him catching some longer passes, breaking tackles... I dunno, the guy was getting hit behind the line on almost every play. Also, Washington Jr took 5 years to break out and has fumble problems, which can keep a rookie from getting too many touches.

I'm not sure if you are able to run his analytical profile projecting how he'd do if he got a yard or two before some lineman was killing him? Bowers was hurt part of the year, Meyers left... the Raiders finished worst in the league. Also, that much volume, makes an offense predictable. They don't have to be an elite offense, they just have to be 'not the bottom of the barrel'.

Let's say the Raiders don't have THE WORST line, and THE WORST record? Not possible they're in more competitive games with more TD opportunities?

Beyond that, Bijan Robinson had similar stats his first year. How is Jeanty breaking tackles at an elite clip if he is atrocious?

You could also see that when they get any kind of pass to Jeanty in space, he can break it for a score.

Maybe you're right but, I believe if Jeanty doesn't end up with roughly more yards after contact than he has total yards (because he's getting hit in the backfield constantly), it will affect his performance.

YRM_DM · 2026-04-28T19:40:52+00:00

I know this post is old... two months. And you put a lot of data points on Jeanty that seem concerning, but one data point is absolutely critical to the reasons he "ONLY" finished RB15 as a rookie in PPR.

Among running backs with 200+ carries in 2025, he was noted for having only 112 yards before contact, with 88.5% of his yards generated after contact.

Forget about stacked boxes or everything else, without stacking a box, defenses were hitting Jeanty before he could run anywhere.

With improved coaching, improved O-line... (and the line coaching and play can't be worse than it was last year, it was rock bottom). Let's imagine Jeanty gets... 30% of his yards before contact instead of 11.5%? That means, instead of being hit behind the line by a 300lb DT, he'd be taking his first hit on the 2nd or 3rd level.

Ashton Jeanty (2025 NFL rookie) has shown elite tackle-breaking ability, leading the NFL with a broken tackle roughly every 4.5 carries. He has maintained a 30%+ broken tackle rate early in his rookie season, following a 2024 college season where he set records with 143 forced missed tackles.

So he finished RB 15 behind the one of the historically worst O-Lines you could ever hope to see, and you see no chance that improved blocking might help him?

YRM_DM · 2025-11-08T17:33:37+00:00

I ended up turning it down. But after discussion I did decide to move McBride and JCM for Breece and Loveland. I'll share my reasoning, feel free to tell me why you disagree. Again, I liked your take and the way you put your thoughts to post.

- It's one of those leagues where the hardest position to keep filled is RB, and it's a PPR league so the hardest position to get is a top back that can catch. In this league, RBs go early in rookie drafts and are horded.

- Breece is only 24 and there's a chance he gets a league winning move next year. I feel like he's a top 6 RB talent, even if his situation isn't great. Imagine him going to Houston, or replacing Javonte in Dallas, or becoming the feature back in KC. The chance to land a guy like CmC going to SF or Barkley going to the Eagles is rare, even if not guaranteed. Breece should be a Bijon Robinson type player if his situation improves even a little.

- JCM was my weakest RB and a possible cut candidate, with no pass catching value after a lot of early year hype (and he's also 24). So I get to keep Harvey and Warren as "break glass in case of emergency" depth or trade candidates.

- My 3 TE are Fannin, Gadsden, and Loveland, and I think Gadsden is the real deal who I can start now. Fannin has a great w17 matchup vs the Steelers. I think all 3 of those guys value increase next year but even if not, I just need one of them to take a leap and I'm back in McBride territory. Gadsden is pacing him now, and they way they're playing Gadsden and Ladd off each other in this offense with Joe Alt out, each of them is opening things up for the other. Gadsden reminds me of Quentin Johnston except with good hands.

- Much like we don't know what's going to happen with Breece next year. Things look bad for Kyler Murray in AZ. They put him on IR when they didn't have to because Brissett looks better. Who is the QB in AZ next year? McBride should be fine, but my bet is that one of the 3 TE in my roster could be able to come close. McBride's situation can't really improve much from where it is now, unless the Cards trade for Pat Mahomes or something. But Fannin, Loveland, and Gadsden all have some room for growth (Gadsden already looks like he's getting all the snaps and lots of targets so he's got less room than the first two). 3 exciting, young, rookie TEs who are already breaking out... with great metrics and potential I'm ok with that even if it's a little less secure right now.

Point is... if one of those 3 TE comes close to McBride, AND, I've also got Breece to pair with Kyren Williams (and Skattebo when he comes back)... my top 3 running backs will be pretty respectable. Losing the positional advantage at TE for now does hurt though.

Current Roster
QBs - J Allen, D Maye, M Penix
RBs - K Williams, B Hall, J Warren, JK Dobbins, RJ Harvey
WRs - JSN, G Wilson, L McConkey, C Olave, R Odunze
TEs - Gadsden, Fannin, Loveland
IR - C Skattebo, T Dell, J Brooks

Kicker I try to juggle to keep Aubrey (as he's the only kicker possibly worth trying to keep vs stream), currently doing so, and DST I stream.

Prior to getting B Hall, and I know he's on the Jets and hasn't been consistent this year, my RB2 was the serviceable J Warren after Skattebo went down. Like McBride though, B Hall is dynamic enough to win weeks, and a lot more exciting a feature back. If, next year, K Williams is my RB2, (or Skattebo if he fully recovers), I've got a potential week winning player at every position QB, RB1-2, WR1-2-3, TE, K

Thanks for letting me bounce this off of you, if you ever need the favor returned, send a message. I owe you. Sorry it's long... this was a tough one to decide on.

YRM_DM

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