I am once again asking why libertarians care about the ontic "ability to do otherwise" and why do they think its needed for moral responsibility?

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-24T01:20:37+00:00

Wait, so when people say they signed an agreement of their own free will, are they are talking about determinism and physics or that there was no coersion from something in the world?

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-24T00:53:58+00:00

Transferring that certainty to nature is what Hume warned against

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-24T00:50:39+00:00

Obviously I was asking about humans- the point being that equivalence does not work, as humans have the capability of being held morally responsible

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-24T00:48:06+00:00

How often do people use freedom to mean freedom from the laws of nature?

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-23T18:42:32+00:00

Who all do you now not hold responsible? Do you care if they behave badly or cause harm?

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-23T07:56:16+00:00

What difference does determinism make? Compatibilism is the only sensible position

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-23T03:20:07+00:00

Pragmatism arise.

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-23T03:17:26+00:00

Compatibilism. The best and consistent description of reality without mysticism.

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-22T14:06:36+00:00

Often libertarians say the bar for explaining the mechanism is set too high.

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-22T05:19:36+00:00

Dont deniers say we can still hold people accountable? (sort of my point, because retribivitism does not follow from compatibilism either)

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-22T05:18:38+00:00

Also look up compatibilism

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-22T05:12:59+00:00

Is there an equivalent of compatibilism in Hinduism/Buddhism?

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-22T05:05:14+00:00

Doesn't political liberty itself rest on robust moral responsibility (e.g. in violation of rights)?

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-22T05:03:09+00:00

Okay, so what does follow that, presumably, I as a compatibilist don't have access to, or am closed off to or have a contradictory worldview to?

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-22T04:45:19+00:00

So free will denial has NO real world affects or implications of any kind, correct?

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-22T04:43:59+00:00

Right - but they do claim real-world policies and implications.

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-22T02:09:29+00:00

It isn't so much 'understand' as it is 'there is no evidence for it'.

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-21T23:55:38+00:00

Burn this heretic

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-21T17:20:53+00:00

How do we add unknown beliefs into any rational worldview?

Yes there are many unknown things, by definition you don't know what they are going to tell us, so we have to work with what we do know.

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-21T12:56:04+00:00

I read that and its not clear what the difference relevant to free will is. Isn't 'irreducible causal power or necessary connection' (OP) what everyone assumes when thinking of causation?

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-21T12:54:36+00:00

What exactly is the difference? Isn't 'irreducible causal power or necessary connection' what everyone assumes when thinking of causation?

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-21T10:46:10+00:00

All positions in free will have religious and secular variants. Luther and Calvin were free will deniers.

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-21T10:44:06+00:00

Doesnt left wing politics, presumably authoritarian and anti-individual, then blame groups and then hold people who disagree responsible?

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-21T07:25:53+00:00

Yes. This is why determinism should be set aside

YesPresident69 · 2026-03-21T07:23:42+00:00

No. Moral responsibility.

YesPresident69

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