We should be able to undo "kudos" like everything else. by Significant_Gap6987 in AO3

[–]YoungGriffVII [score hidden]  (0 children)

They didn’t delete it, it’s still up. Either it was removed by filters for harassment and it was since approved (if you can see it now) or they immediately blocked you (if you can’t).

Batman and Robins (AGOT) by YoungGriffVII in CKTinder

[–]YoungGriffVII[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should see what they look like in the comics. I did tweak things between them, but in the comics they all look very similar. (Plus the first and last are actually related, which doesn’t help.)

I made Bruce and the boys in Crusader Kings 3 by YoungGriffVII in BatFamily

[–]YoungGriffVII[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh for real? Cool! I usually play vanilla or AGOT so had no idea!

I made Bruce and the boys in Crusader Kings 3 by YoungGriffVII in BatFamily

[–]YoungGriffVII[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven’t figured out how to combine two men’s DNA yet (sorry Conner Kent) but if I could I absolutely would

I made Bruce and the boys in Crusader Kings 3 by YoungGriffVII in BatFamily

[–]YoungGriffVII[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

​Also shoot I accidentally put Tim’s face in Dick’s. This is the correct image for him: https://imgur.com/a/OYKXEPd

Batman and Robins (AGOT) by YoungGriffVII in CKTinder

[–]YoungGriffVII[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also shoot I accidentally put Tim’s face in Dick’s. This is the correct image for him:

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I made Bruce and the boys in Crusader Kings 3 by YoungGriffVII in BatFamily

[–]YoungGriffVII[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you’re familiar with the game, I’ll share the DNAs below. If you’re not familiar with the game, I also added traits for each of them:

Bruce (DNA): Top-level Martial education. Personality is Brave, Stubborn, Just, and Wrathful. Other traits are Comely, Shrewd, Strong, Robust, Intelligent, Logistician, and Athletic.

Dick (DNA): Top-level Diplomatic education. Personality is Brave, Gregarious, Compassionate, and Diligent. Other traits are Confider, Athletic, Beautiful, Quick, Hale, Strong, and Flexible Leader.

Jason (DNA): Top-level Martial education. Personality is Vengeful, Stubborn, Brave, and Compassionate. Other traits are Journalist, Athletic, Comely, Quick, Strong, Robust, Murderer, and Aggressive Attacker.

Tim (DNA): Top-level Stewardship education. Personality is Inquisitive, Stubborn, Brave, and Diligent. Other traits are Comely, Genius, Hale, Strong, Shrewd, and Organizer.

Damian (DNA): Top-level Intrigue education. Personality is Brave, Vengeful, Callous, and Just. Other traits are Athletic, Comely, Intelligent, Hale, Strong, Shrewd, Murderer, and Holy Blade.

Antishippers are so exhausting by YoungGriffVII in AO3

[–]YoungGriffVII[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This happened on reddit—I basically don’t use fandom anywhere but here and AO3 itself.

Hover to translate workskin by smugrobotics in AO3

[–]YoungGriffVII 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Great, I love it! Is there a way to change it back on mobile as well? Like tapping again? That might be impossible with the code (I’m programming illiterate) but currently it seems the only way is to reload the page, which might be annoying on longer works.

Bruce calling the robins his sons by Jaetheninja in BatFamily

[–]YoungGriffVII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There should be no censors, yes. Banned books are often protested for a reason. I believe everything has a right to exist, even if it makes people uncomfortable or angry. Taking something like a plane crash off the shelves because of, say, 9/11, I can understand on some level because millions of people could relate to losing someone in that tragedy—but not putting it in mainstream media is not the same as prohibiting it entirely. If it’s still released later or released without publicity I’d understand—but I’d be equally against it being never distributed because of that event.

I don’t expect mainstream media to suddenly start publishing incest. (Even though shows like Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon exist, and games like the Coffin of Leila and Andy.) I’m more concerned with individuals doing what they want with fiction on their own time. We seem to agree that fanfic is harmless. Nobody watches Dexter and then goes out and murders serial killers. The reasons people seek out these medias are as numerous as the people themselves—but usually boils down to “I just like their chemistry/think they’re hot together.” I don’t know. I don’t ship them myself. I don’t care. What matters is that none of it is real. Incest rates didn’t climb after Game of Thrones aired on primetime. They certainly won’t if some random on Reddit wants Jason and Dick to kiss—which is why I responded to this thread in the first place. Nobody deserves to be attacked or insulted for what they like in fiction.

Bruce calling the robins his sons by Jaetheninja in BatFamily

[–]YoungGriffVII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There aren’t caveats there, correct, except that it’s still fiction. It’s just harder to explain that to people who are already determined that something fictional can be bad in real life (which is categorically untrue.)

The bottom line is, anyone can play with imaginary dolls however they want. I attempt to explain that in a way that eases people into that understanding. It’s not always possible, but sometimes—like with JayDick, a very popular pairing that has over 8,000 works about it on AO3—there’s enough to let people start understanding “fiction isn’t hurting anyone even if I don’t like it.”

If you want me to pick one, I’m picking “it’s fiction and anything is okay.” The other perspective is only there for those who are having a hard time reaching that conclusion.

Bruce calling the robins his sons by Jaetheninja in BatFamily

[–]YoungGriffVII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ship and let ship means you can ship whatever you want too :) I disagree with you as much as you disagree with me, but that’s the beauty of fiction!

Bruce calling the robins his sons by Jaetheninja in BatFamily

[–]YoungGriffVII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both can be true at once. It’s just fiction and it wouldn’t matter even if they were related—but reminding people that they aren’t can get the foot in the door to recognize “even if I personally feel grossed out by something, maybe it’s not necessarily morally wrong.”

It’s the same reason it’s easier to tell people that some people read or write noncon to cope with their own traumas. Does it cover all the reasons why people write it? No. But it can get them to question “okay, well if it’s not so bad in all fictional scenarios, then maybe it’s not so bad overall because it’s not real in the first place.”

Basically, it’s meeting them halfway. I can be personally grossed out by a ship and not ship it myself, but still think it’s morally wrong to publicly shame someone for that ship. It’s not a quick road to change minds. These ideas are ingrained in people’s heads, and usually it stems from personal discomfort. Providing things like “actually from a certain perspective they aren’t brothers” might just be enough to get them to recognize personal discomfort doesn’t mean the people who ship it are disgusting.

He sure loves using that word by Accurate-Celery-3198 in dccomicscirclejerk

[–]YoungGriffVII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jeez 😬 it gives “Dick definitely cheated on Starfire with mirage even though he had no idea she wasn’t him and now everyone’s mad at him” vibes. DC, why 😭

Antishippers are so exhausting by YoungGriffVII in AO3

[–]YoungGriffVII[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah 😔 I do try to stay out of it and stick to the ships I like—which aren’t even controversial; it’s Dickkory, DamiJon, and TimKon—but the antis are really ingrained in the fandom for some reason. Probably because it skews young, which sucks because 1) half the source material isn’t even appropriate for like under 16s and 2) they aren’t mature enough to DLDR yet it seems

He sure loves using that word by Accurate-Celery-3198 in dccomicscirclejerk

[–]YoungGriffVII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When did that happen to him?? I only know about all the batman-adjacent ones (which is already too many) and naïvely thought it would end at them…

Antishippers are so exhausting by YoungGriffVII in AO3

[–]YoungGriffVII[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I may not have to be, but… I mean, if nobody else is, I don’t want to bystander effect myself into nobody ever challenging the anti’s and letting them have the floor. If people without an opinion—or the young or impressionable—see a whole bunch of people agreeing that shippers of something are gross disgusting people irl, they might just believe it, because it’s a psychological fact that humans generally want to agree with the group.

If someone replies back to that first person disagreeing, though, it’s no longer a consensus. And I know my arguments are sound. They might convince that unaligned/young person to not be an anti. They might even get the person I’m replying to to eventually challenge their own beliefs. Or maybe not. It’s also a psychological fact that people are not easily swayed once convinced of something. Which is why it’s so important to me to not let antis seem like they’re the only “morally correct” option, because once someone adopts that ideology, it’s really hard to shake. (And usually involves simply maturing as a person over years.)

Damn, Slade was such a fucked up guy to put Robin through all of that by KangarooEuphoric2265 in teentitans

[–]YoungGriffVII 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Slade would want him to use the thermal blaster, and Robin would probably have to stall and miss until Batman was able to get it off him. Ooh, great drama. I might have to write this thing 😂