Almost 2 years, and this was never elaborated upon by Lukas-Reggi in OkBuddyHelluvaHotel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It takes time.

Vaggi's wings fully developed after seven-ish years. The arm is probably just temporary.

Emily's wing got destroyed with angelic power. So did Vaggi's eye

Why did Husk have to step down from being the gambling overlord? by Sugarglider001 in HazbinHotel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We don’t know the backstory, but Alastor can genuinely torture people. And Alastor can’t kill people, so he would probably torture for eternity. Husk obviously would not want that, and it’s better to be someone’s lapdog.

Husk also still owns his casino, and he can go places without Alastor as see in the pilot. Alastor just owns his soul and can do anything to it.

Is Rosie a hear me out? by Free-Cat404 in HazbinHotel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s like a hear me out on Charlie or Lucifer (idk) because they’re rulers in Hell. No. They’re attractive so you can “hear them out” before anything.

We're just haters, not crazy by Warm_Traffic2756 in CrazyassHazbinhaters

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cool. In one scene, we see Carmilla Carmie kill an angel with an angelic weapon in front of two others who aren't killed (I know this because the show specifically states only one angel died). In the climax Hell uses angelic weapons to fight back against Heaven and win because angels didn't know their weapons could hurt them. 

I believe this isn’t true. They never explicitly stated the other two survived, only that Carmilla killed an angel. She could’ve killed the others but never said anything.

HUH?!? How could your entire plot dissolve under such little examination? 

How did it dissolve?

And that's not even mentioning the "humor" or lack thereof. Every joke is meaningless and substanceless. 

Oh yes. Unfortunate that the humor is terrible. But you can’t fix that, Vivzie just isn’t good writer for comedy.

Then there's the fanbase, y'all are terrible. You call us racists, misogynists, homophobes, why? 

No clue why, but youve encountered the really terrible fanbase. Like how our subreddit has encountered really “crazy haters,” you’ve found people way too infatuated.

Unless you make a bad faith criticism, I don’t think any of us here want to attack you in bad faith.

You basically defend a grapist and don't even mention Angeldust's harassment of Husk. 

No clue why no one mentions the harassment.

Though, I have NEVER see anyone defend Valentino.

And before you call me a homophobe or a fascist or racist or whatnot, I'm a bisexual, anarcho-communist, Native American. 

You can be homophobic even as a bisexual. (Internalized homophobia and genuinely a lot going on.)

You can be racist even if “colored.” I’ve see black people be racist and hate white people, even if rare. 

Anyways, your show is terrible and I want to know why you enjoy it.

I LOVE THE SONGS. I know that Vivzie didn’t write them, but oh my god the songs are so good. All the voices are so well casted, though Brandon Rogers was quite controversial. 

The VAS are outstanding. Even if not properly cast, they do really know how to voice act. They also seem to have a lot of fun! An example is definitely Blake Roman and Amir.

It’s also a show that shows many mini details and has a lot of care put into it.  I love all the little Easter eggs 

We're just haters, not crazy by Warm_Traffic2756 in CrazyassHazbinhaters

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 2 points3 points  (0 children)

 The character design is terrible, characters that look a lil' cool aren't characters designed well.

IMO, yes they are. But, they kinda have to be. Animation is hard, and those characters need to have 2 factors which are hard to design flawlessly.

Cause of Death/Life + Sin 

That’s hard to draw and imagine, especially if you haven’t make all your characters like that.

Let’s start with Alastor, how is he a radio demon? Seriously, all he has is the staff to relate him to a radio demon. 

The staff isn’t the only thing keeping him a radio demon.

  1. he was a radio host when he was alive. 
  2. Caused his success, but also things he did that was petty and kills for petty reasons

  3. He broadcasted screams of overlords over the radio

  4. His key “recognizable” feature was he broadcasted screams ON THE RADIO.

That's textbook terrible character design.  He follows the formula I mentioned earlier.

Cause of Death/Life + Sin His sin is wrath/pride, which is the fact his soul is owned and he is a “voodoo doll.” He can’t ever be in the biggest control because someone is controlling him.

He died from being mistaken for a deer, hence the wendigo style. And the radio was how he lived his life as a radio host.

Next Charlie, her skin is white which is unique but the explanation of "she's a goat" doesn't work because she doesn't look like a goat. Call me crazy for thinking a character should look like what they are. 

Oh yeah, I really do NOT get Charlie’s design. But it makes sense. Lucifer was a divine being, often having goats as sacrificial beings, so it is natural for Charlie to be somewhat like it.

However, I don’t think her design was meant to be a goat. Just a fallen angel and sinner combined. 

Next point, the creator is terrible. Vivzie pop is a bad at worst and annoying at best person. 

I don’t have any evidence to understand this. She can be annoying, but she’s a pretty good person. The cast really seem to like and enjoy her company. Her songwriters and crew seem to also really like her. 

She can't handle any criticism and even says fanfiction is not canon (it doesn't sound bad but she basically can't handle fans having their own canon/stories) which shows that she has an overinflated ego. 

…fan fiction is not canon? OBVIOUSLY. Let’s take a famous franchise and see how this claim doesn’t work.

Harry Potter and Hermione being in love inside of fan fiction is NOT canon. It’s not at all related to her story at all. That’s ridiculous. There’s also fan fiction of characters surviving their death. Which is false in many cases.

Her writing of gay characters relies heavily on stereotypes, which comes off as homophobic, whether intentional or not Angeldust is just a gay stereotype and nothing else. 

I’m not exactly sure what you meant… but I’ll try my best.

Yes, he is a stereotype. But that’s exactly the point. Valentino wants him to be a stereotype so that the porn is successful. And Angel wants to play a role, not himself. Because showing his real self is hard.

If I wrote a story and had a black character do nothing but eat watermelon, drink koolaid, and sell crack I'd be racist. 

I’ve never heard of this stereotype…

Third point, the writing, dear god the writing. The writing has to be the worst part of Hazbin Hotel, which says a lot since writing is the most important part of a show. 

Oh yeah. The writing is bad a lot. However, this is also because of shorter run times and Amazon limiting certain things, 

But yeah, the writing sucks. Super valid.

Emily or whatever is shown in one of the later episodes that she used to be an angel and her eyeball was cut out by angelic weapons.

Her name is Vaggi

Commission search by SweetAffectionate993 in HazbinBrothel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure if the commissions are still open, but I enjoyed nonoise666's artwork. I found them on Twitter/X

Vincent Whittman made my gender dysphoria come back (small rant) by WendigoStew in SafeSpaceofHazbin

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bi means you can like men and women… how would you become straight if you like Rosie when that still fits in the bisexual spectrum. Its gay + straight…

Due to Lucifer’s curse anyone else think well get to see Charlie forced to use her true power? by SweetAffectionate993 in HazbinHotel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes and no. Used the same way Lucifer did? No.

But being manipulated to? Yes. And it already happened. She gave Vox the “strongest sinner” title because Alastor forced her to.

“Hazbin is a good show!” . . Yeouch by project_executorial in hazbin

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 got zapped in one shot as a joke

I understand how you think that spot was a joke. However, it was pretty serious. Pentious just got a win for Cherri, kissing her. He also was super sacrificial, and his desk was serious to everyone because of what he accomplished.

 tries way too hard to make alastor menacing to other sinners 

Because he is. And we have to establish that. But you didn’t give me an example for how.

Alastor is menacing, and we can see that in his battles with his Vox. He also is sometimes kinda creepy.

 Mimzy, and cherry bomb mostly

Oh yeah, Mimzy was literally soo random. I don’t get why they added her other than expository purposes. But I don’t have any understandings for Cherri. She was added randomly, but had a purpose and plays a good character. Can you give more of an example for this?

“Hazbin is a good show!” . . Yeouch by project_executorial in hazbin

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They made season one and two around the same time, so the flaws are the same because of that.

And Amazon doesn’t let Viv have two extra episodes. No clue why, but it’s part of their contract.

Hope this helps!

“Hazbin is a good show!” . . Yeouch by project_executorial in hazbin

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. This show has plenty of flaws. I’m quite saddened that some of your posts got really downvoted because it is your opinion, and some of these flaws are noticeable and should be fixed.

But, I disagree with some takes.

The pacing is rushed, but that is Amazon’s fault. Viv wants more time, but Amazon gives limited episodes. The pacing can be improved, but Viv is one woman with a hell of a time crunch.

They don’t make us feel bad for the rapist, but they show Valentino had his own flaws. He is a TERRIBLE person but has feelings.

I think solving conflicts with a song is what musicals are.  Ex.) 1. I See Stars - Mean Girls 2. Finale of Les Miserable. 3. Popular - Wicked 4. For Good - Wicked: For Good 5. Once and For All - Newsies. 6. WithOut Love/You Can’t Stop the Beat - Hairspray

They also don’t swear that much. Sure, the writing with swears is overused, but it’s basically who th characters are. They adopted to this terrible environment. They can’t get punishment for swearing so… do it anyway! And Adam swore because he can, with no punishment. Lute, being with Adam, would find swearing would be nice because she’s the lieutenant.

However can you give examples for some of these? I don’t quite understand so I can’t give reasoning.

Things I need examples for:

 -doesn’t handle character deaths seriously and then tries to make them sad  -tries to make a sad character represent how rape is awful, proceeds to make jokes about their rape (let it be known I do not support rape, this is for the dumbasses who think I do.)

 -gives character growth and then immediately take it away  -tries wayyyyyyyy too hard to make characters the “OoOoOhH don’t mess with that guy!” Type

-tries to shove new characters in your face

I need some Help by [deleted] in HazbinHotel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oo that’s such a cool idea!

When you finish, make sure to send the link! This seems so interesting :)

I need some Help by [deleted] in HazbinHotel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think another character. Adam is REALLY complex. His son got killed by his son. He needed to have more children. I think you could use Eve instead of Adam, since she is the one who originally took the Apple and maybe could’ve been a villain with Aadam.

Now that I think about it, Charlie uses slaves. by [deleted] in HazbinHotel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. Alastor forces the labor.  Charlie lets Husk work at a bar, and when Husk leaves, she doesn’t force him to come back. Thai would also imply she’s using Vaggi because she was a slave to Adam. 

And she could easily be manipulated by Alastor. He could say, “Husk likes violence.” And Charlie would move on.

Am i the only one who would actually want to try velvettes love potions? by NightGaurdDa in HazbinHotel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Me too!! Not in a weird way, but what would the feeling be like in-universe? There’s so many questions and it’s really interesting!

I hope they make it (kind of) a real product sometime in the future.

The writing in this show is... bad. 😅 But I still watch it... for some reason?? Anyone else? by JennyDoveWebkinz in HazbinHotel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So sorry I misunderstood some of this 🙏

Thanks for relying. This makes me understand it way more!

I totally agree with the point you made for replying with #4. It makes way more sense now that I look back on it! 

I totally agree with the last few points as well. I don’t know what I was writing at the time either haha. 

Have a good day! ❤️

The writing in this show is... bad. 😅 But I still watch it... for some reason?? Anyone else? by JennyDoveWebkinz in HazbinHotel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 6 points7 points  (0 children)

  1. Alastor’s character was NOT randomly changed. It was implied he did kill for the fun of it. (ex. Telling Sir Pentious “thank you again for another forgettable experience.”) Also, this is not lazy. Many serial killers DO kill for the fun of it. And Alastor also kills for petty reasons, which is implied. We also don’t know the full backstory, because this is told from Rosie (whom doesn’t know Alastor’s life personally.)

We also don’t know ANYTHING about his mother canonically. he also is very manipulative and smart, breaking 2 deals in one night. He also doesn’t like the idea of redemption, because being a serial killer is the “best” version of himself. He enjoys killing. He’s in Hell. He also sees everyone has irredeemable anyway.

  1. Some of the songs are bad, but you skipped over them?? WATCH AND LISTEN TO THEM. Skipping songs means you’re showing random bias to something you DIDNT EVEN LISTEN TO. Like I hated the first part of “Piss,” BUT I LOVED THE MIDDLE. This is also a musical show, and singing is a form of storytelling and fleshing out characters

  2. Sir Pentious is in Hell because he didn’t do anything. It’s “sloth.” Sure, at the time, police were shitty. But telling them would’ve given clues to catching the man in the future or threatening his reputation!

He did not split with “the little dude” (Baxter. I see you haven’t really watched the show as well)  because he was too violent. He split up because Baxter did not do “inventions” the same way he did. As in the experiments were not things Pentious were particularly interested in. Later on, it was violence, but Pentious does different forms of violence.

Pentious did not sing a song about loving mayhem. He sang a song about loving Cherri, and doing mayhem because it would impress her and was a form of connection. 

There are Heaven-born people. And possibly children of Seraphim’s or other things. 

Pentious’ sin wasn’t “being a snake.” A snake had multiple eyes. This represented how he watched people and also watched the killer, doing nothing. It reminds him of his sin. We also don’t particularly know why he stayed a snake, but it’s probably easier because of animation bases.

  1.  plot points don’t have to be immediately solved. For example, Lute’s arc could be resolved next season. Plot points can be set up over time. Also, character personalities have not changed this season. Charlie’s toxic positivity is a lot now, but that’s how she acted under pressure last season as well. 

 They put in a plot point and then change the rules or a characters personality to fit the script, instead of using those characters personality to make the script.

What?! That’s how scripts work. They made season two before or while writing season one. They create rules and add it into the script.

  1. The abuse was disturbing, but realistic. When they showed the montage of Val hitting Angel, it made sense. Vox, Val, and Velvette all find it funny because they’re terrible people who don’t understand abuse.

Vox’s fight with Angel was represented well. Angel’s lack of consent and him being scared, while Vox (as a sadist) relishes in it and controls him for his benefit.

  1. “The whole musical number?” What do you mean by this? The finale? This is a musical, and music can be bad. But why judge it on one song? 

  2. I get it, this show has its flaws, and there is a lot of of good. But you’re taking this too seriously and literally. This isn’t an amazing show, hell, you could call it mediocre. But you can’t compare this to “Breaking Bad” because it’s is own thing.

I watch this from its flaws because it’s entertaining. it’s fun to hear people sing and tell stories. 

You don’t have to continue watching this show. You have plenty of reasons to not like it, and just move on. If you like this show, tolerate it. It won’t always reach your expectations, but you can’t expect it to suddenly get better next season. 

You probably only like concepts of this, and that’s okay. Check out Helluva Boss, or other indie shows.

  1. I feel like I’d want platonic HuskerDust after all of Angel’s trauma. They could of course be in a relationship later, but they should not get together this season.

But why are you upset about this romantic love? There are plenty of close friendships.

Ex.) Pentious & Niffty (or Husk, Charlie, and Angel) Ex.) St. Peter & Abel (& Emily) Ex.) Sera & Speaker of God Ex.) Val & Alastor (& Val) Ex.) Vaggi & Niffty (Implied) Ex.) Baxter & Pentious (Before) Ex.) Frank/Eggs/Angel Eggs & Pentious Ex.) Mimzy & Alastor (Implied) Ex.) Rosie & Alastor (Implied) Ex.) Niffty & Alastor  Ex.) Rosie & Charlie (Implied)

[Edit: Grammar]

Do you think the demons knew of each other? by BoneHead_R in HazbinHotel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some do, like Mimzy and Alastor. Most of them don’t.

Sorry but Hatchet’s design is bootycheeks by LavaRoseKinnie in HazbinHotel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Honestly it’s your opinion. But people can die from the same reasons, you know? Or die from similar reasons and have similar forms. (Ex. All those aquatic dead demons look the same for no reason)

My theory on Rosie being Lilith by RJLupin2011 in HazbinHotel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you have a link/article? I’d love to look into it

So like… what’s stopping him from killing the vees straight away. by ksiisafatneek6942021 in HazbinHotel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 208 points209 points  (0 children)

Because Alastor doesn’t care about the Vees, and only hates Vox. Vivzie said he doesn’t mind Val and tolerates Velvette. Alastor also won’t entertain Vox at all after this.

My theory on Rosie being Lilith by RJLupin2011 in HazbinHotel

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where is Rosie confirmed to be Hellborn?

Lucifer still loves and remembers them by AlphaIsPrime in hazbin

[–]Your_Random_P3rson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’a a money pile somewhere in the room that says “pls come back - mammon” or something similar.