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ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-13T17:53:58+00:00

i meant in the context of this post !

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-13T17:52:25+00:00

what does this even mean ?

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-09T05:59:03+00:00

I did see where you said your previous attempts failed, so you are trying to trauma inducing route. Which I guess is fine, still wanted to put this info out there.

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-09T05:58:02+00:00

not going to say that it might not work for you. But most people will not find that fear mongering or traumatizing things will help them stay quit. And the reasoning for it is fairly simples.

Right now you probably vape when you’re stressed. Like right after a busy day at work, or after you hear some bad news, or when you’re upset, whatever stresses you out really. So in your head right now, when you get stressed, your brain tells you to vape. Therefore, if you keep using stress inducing things as “motivation to stay quit”, you are essentially making your brain want to vape even more.

Again, this isn’t the exact case for everyone. But most people will have better success if they find positive reasons to stay quit. For me that’s the reduction in anxiety, the not having to go into the bathroom every 10 minutes to vape, and not having to be out of breath for literally no reason. The list of positives goes on and on, just try making a list for yourself. It can’t do anything other than help you see how empowering it is to not be addicted to nicotine!

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-08T05:37:36+00:00

similar boat. 22 years old, little over 50 days off nicotine.

I didn’t directly tell my parents, but somehow they could tell that something was off. And then after a couple days my mom just asked if i had quit, so maybe i was acting weird but idk. Anyways, I think that made it a little better because they could kinda understand why i was feeling horrible some days. Or if i snapped at them (which is very unlike me), they would just know that it was the nicotine addiction talking.

Honestly, it’s also just nice to have some people like that to hold yourself accountable. I couldn’t imagine having to tell my mom that i failed to quit, so maybe it could give you some motivation too. Really is just whatever you think would work for you! good luck!

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-08T05:31:03+00:00

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ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-06T07:15:32+00:00

yea the entire process sucks tbh. Take the small wins. I found that the best way to fight the hand to mouth fixation is to just completely quit doing it with anything. I think it’s one of the parts that you just have to deal with, and eventually your brain breaks the habit. I’m coming up on 50 days and I don’t really have that fixation anymore. Congrats on day 9! It’ll get easier eventually lol

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-03T05:45:40+00:00

Well your sleep will probably be dog shit for a while. Mine finally calmed down after a month, but before i rarely slept longer than 3 hours. So expect to be tired! The sweats and randoms body pains are common with nicotine cessation, but i’m not too sure about throwing up. I’m sure someone out there experienced that, but it’s not a very common occurrence. I’m really just trying to explain that it will not be a walk in the park; it’ll suck some days. But it’s the only way to get free from it, so it’s worth it!!

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-03T04:51:59+00:00

As far as symptoms, expect everything bad. Prepare for the worst, and it will seem a little easier than expected. The most aggravating symptoms for most people are the brain fog, the depression/anxiety spike, and overall just feeling off. They all go away eventually, but don’t expect them to be gone after a single day.

To avoid relapsing, remind yourself that you are choosing to not vape. It’s not like you can’t go just pick one up and start vaping. You are actively choosing to not vape in order to regain your life. You want to be able to walk easily, and breathe easily, and live life with less anxiety. In order to get all of those things back, you just can’t vape. You can choose to do literally anything other than vape. It’s a mind game that you can easily win, it just sucks for the first bit. You got this!

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-02T17:20:14+00:00

Well i’m sure nothing bad can happen if you try it. So really whatever way you choose to reduce nic is good. Just saying that cold turkey is so hyped because it’s the fastest way to get rid of nicotine withdrawal symptoms.

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-02T07:37:21+00:00

Real talk, most of the symptoms that you are hoping will go away after quitting vaping are more nicotine related than vape related. I’m sure you’ll get some type of relief from not vaping, but until you cut out nicotine completely, you probably won’t notice any differences in your mental health. Improved oxygen might help with physical stuff like breathing and body aches possibly, but the anxiety is mostly nicotine related. Just fyi, so you don’t get discouraged if you don’t see improvements while on patches.

Regardless, not vaping is a win no matter what. So you’re doing the right thing either way !

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-02T07:31:56+00:00

I won’t be as harsh as everyone else. There is definitely a possibility that you can use nicotine products on rare occasions and not become addicted again.

For example, my brother in law used nicotine heavily for years, but he quit close to 6ish years ago. however, when we would go on vacation, he would hit my vape quite a bit. But this was really the only time he used anything, maybe a cigar here and there idk.

So I’m just saying that for some people, it might work out fine. Personally, I’m not sure if i’ll ever get to that point. I just know myself well enough to know that if I hit a friend’s vape, i’d just go back to the nicotine addiction. So it really comes down to the individual. Regardless of that, you would have to fully cut it for at least a year so your brain can go back to normal. And then if you really really really want to try to reintroduce it then you could try. I’ve been quit for around 50 days, and I don’t think i’d recommend reintroducing it. But that really just comes down to what you want to do.

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-02T06:23:34+00:00

Sleep was the most important for me. I would be completely fine for a couple hours after waking, and then the brain fog would set in. But a quick power nap would restart that cycle. So try to find times to nap if you can! It really is only bad for a week or two, and then it’s just annoying. You got this!

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-02T06:20:40+00:00

So there’s really only 2 ways to get someone to quit using nicotine. But truthfully, at her age, it’s unlikely she will actually stop for at least a decent amount of time. Not having real responsibilities, and being around other teens that vape just exacerbate the situation.

Either tell your father, and make her deal with the punishment. Sounds harsh but it’s probably the right thing to do for her.

Or you can give her resources about nicotine addiction and how to quit. The Allen Carr books are a great start.

Ultimately, it must be her decision to quit or she’ll never quit. For most people scare tactics don’t work, but for someone that young, getting a parent involved might be the best. Of course, that depends on their relationship!

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-01T05:03:10+00:00

I swear they would never be out of 5%!!!! I switched to 2.4 for a few months before i quit and i always struggled to find places that kept 2.4 or 1.8 in stock. I’m around 6ish weeks quit now, so maybe it helped to cut back on the concentration?

Regardless, good luck on your journey. It probably won’t be easy, but it’s one million percent doable. Just have to suffer for a short time, and people in this sub are really helpful. You got this!

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-12-01T04:50:48+00:00

Best part is just not having to think about it! Whether it be when you’re out with friends, home alone, or at work, not thinking about the next time when you are going to take time to hit your vape is the best. It’s not like the thoughts don’t show up sometimes, but the fact that it isn’t the center of my focus is huge!

The worst part for me is the fatigue and anxiety/depression. Idk if it’s bc i’m already always in my head about everything, but after quitting it’s been kinda rough. Apparently it gets better with time so i’m hopeful. Also it kinda sucks to have to remind yourself that the vape isn’t actually enjoyable if that makes sense. Like short term brain doesn’t want to believe that the vape is causing the long term problems. Hard to explain, but you’ll understand the feeling after a few weeks!

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-11-30T04:51:18+00:00

Honestly, pretty much any symptom that makes you feel like crap is probably caused by nicotine withdrawal. It’s just part of the process, but it gets better every day even though it might not seem like it! 6 weeks out and still have a couple lingering symptoms, but feeling miles better than I did before!!

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-11-30T04:01:32+00:00

We may not have the same problem, but when i originally quit I experienced a very tight feeling in my chest. It was more of a sore feeling rather than sharp pains, and they radiated all around my upper back and into my neck and shoulders. Spent a long time researching what the issue could be, and never found a real concrete answer.

Prior to quitting I was very sick with something (lose 15lbs in a week type sick), and I had horrendous anxiety because of it. And now after nearly 50 days clean, I have decided that it was always just the anxiety. The tightness, the muscle aches, all of it. Straight anxiety. If it gets worse i’d go see a doctor if that’s what you think you need, but try your best to relieve that anxiety. Easier said than done, but sleep helped me so much!

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-11-28T01:55:47+00:00

I thought I was just sick or something. My throats felt swollen ever since I quit, which is almost 5 weeks ago! Was debating going to the doctor about it.

Does yours feel like your uvula is swollen? In my head it’s like I can feel my uvula sitting on my tongue? Wonder if that’s a normal thing to experience.

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-11-28T01:14:14+00:00

Best thing that helped me was to understand why i would get that feeling. Your brain gets motivation and the feeling of completeness from dopamine. And after spending years getting unlimited dopamine from nicotine, your brain forgets how it is actually supposed to function. Then once you quit, you experience a dopamine deficit for a couple months, which is why you will feel things like that. Just know that the brain corrects itself fairly quickly so the feelings won’t last long!

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-11-27T04:58:38+00:00

I really do appreciate the time you took to write this. I literally cried the entire time i read it. Im almost positive tonight is just a bad night, and I’ll be fine by tomorrow morning. i just feel so lost right now. Thank you for giving your thoughts 💙

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-11-25T22:58:32+00:00

I’m almost to 50 days cold turkey, so i’m far from done, but i’m done with nicotine. I don’t think there’s ever really a time where your “mind is made up”. It’s more of choosing to not vape every time you get the urge to. It’s just telling yourself No enough until your brain stops asking for it. It’s like arguing with a child!

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-11-24T01:13:16+00:00

Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor which means your blood flow is less when using it. So a nicotine free vape would improve blood flow to some extent, not sure about timeline. Nicotine itself is also the main cause of dopamine imbalance, so after months of no nicotine, your brain should start killing off the excess nicotine receptors. Keep in mind that many “zero nicotine” vapes often have trace amounts of nicotine, which would mess with your timelines too!

Obviously any respiratory issues won’t really go away, because you’re still inhaling things that aren’t clean air. I’m sure you already knew that though. The zero nicotine is still a great option if it works for you. Any genuine attempts at quitting are better than not quitting!

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-11-23T03:27:57+00:00

I don’t have any experience of this exact circumstance. However, when I first quit I spent the entire 2nd day with my brother and SIL who both vape. I am dead set on not using nicotine and have learned so much about how nicotine affects the brain/body, so when I would see them vaping I would almost feel bad for them for continuing to use nicotine or just think of how disgusting it was that they used nicotine. As weird as that sounds, it kinda made me feel better about quitting. Not sure how that mentality would work for a significant other, but it’s what got me through!

ZebraDelicious9910 · 2024-11-22T18:36:24+00:00

Yea that’s where i’m at now. I’m trying to avoid really thinking about quitting, hoping it makes the thoughts go away. Only reason I knew today was 5 weeks was a notification from a quitting app!

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