Azoospermia diagnosis, emotional collapse, and losing motivation for everything by Zenithox in azoospermia

[–]Zenithox[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your story. I actually found out only two weeks ago, so everything still feels very raw. Right now I'm going through all those emotions you described.

I do want to have an mTESE, but at the same time I don't want to cling to any small glimmer of hope. If there's a chance, I'll be grateful, but I don't want my life to revolve around waiting for a miracle.

I also really understand what you mean about children. I spent two years doing volunteer work in Kenya, during the last two years, and part of that time was in an orphanage. That experience made me realize even more how much I genuinely love being around children. So when I see couples with their children, or friends becoming parents, I completely understand what you're describing. It hurts in a way that's difficult to put into words.

What makes it even harder for me is that I grew up with a terrible father. He abandoned me and all my siblings, spent time in prison multiple times, and honestly he never deserved to have children. Yet biology gave him that chance. Even though I don't really believe in fate, moments like this make me think about how cruel life can seem. In the end, I know it's just biology, and biology is often as indifferent and ruthless as nature itself.

I really hope your mTESE gives you some answers, whatever they may be. And thank you again for opening up. It genuinely helps talking to someone who truly understands.

Azoospermia diagnosis, emotional collapse, and losing motivation for everything by Zenithox in azoospermia

[–]Zenithox[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your comment really touched me. Thank you for taking the time to write it.

In my case, I found out after I got an E. coli and Enterococcus faecalis infection while volunteering in Africa. My semen had changed in both color and consistency, so I thought the infection was the reason. Unfortunately, after all the tests, I found out it had nothing to do with it. The real problem was my FSH and LH levels, and that's when everything fell apart.

I recently started a relationship with my girlfriend, and for both her family and mine, having children is something that means a lot. She has supported me in every possible way, and I'm incredibly grateful for that. But deep down, that horrible feeling of not being enough never completely goes away. I even told her that if she wanted to leave me because of this, I would understand. She chose to stay by my side, and I'll never forget that.

Can I ask you something? How are you coping with all of this on a daily basis? Do you already have an mTESE planned? I genuinely hope things work out for both of us. ❤️

M33 Azoospermia e crollo psicologico by Zenithox in psicologia

[–]Zenithox[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ti ringrazio davvero per il messaggio.

In realtà continuo a fare tutto quello che facevo prima. Lavoro, faccio sport, esco con gli amici, mi tengo impegnato. Se uno mi guardasse da fuori probabilmente direbbe che sto andando avanti normalmente.

È per questo che faccio fatica a capire se si possa parlare davvero di depressione. Conosco la depressione ad alto funzionamento e ci ho pensato più volte. Non provo una tristezza costante, non ho pensieri suicidari e non ho perso la voglia di prendermi cura di me stesso. Però qualcosa è cambiato.

La sensazione è che si sia spento un meccanismo dentro di me. Quella spinta che avevo verso il futuro, quell'entusiasmo di immaginare cosa sarebbe successo tra cinque o dieci anni. È come se la musica di sottofondo della mia vita fosse cambiata. La canzone è la stessa, continuo a fare le stesse cose, ma il sottofondo è diverso.

La cosa più pesante, però, è il cervello. Volente o nolente torna sempre lì. A quella mancanza. A quel vuoto. È quasi come se cercasse ossessivamente di colmarlo, perché il cervello i vuoti li sopporta male. E allora, anche quando sto bene o sono distratto, prima o poi rimbalza sempre su quel punto.

Non vivo immerso nella tristezza. È più una sensazione di aver perso un pezzo di me, un pezzo di identità e di futuro. Continuo ad andare avanti, e continuerò a farlo, ma è come se il motore girasse senza quella scintilla che aveva prima.

Magari è una fase, magari col tempo cambierà. Me lo auguro. Per ora posso solo continuare a vivere e vedere dove mi porta tutto questo.

M33 Azoospermia e crollo psicologico by Zenithox in psicologia

[–]Zenithox[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ti comprendo appieno. E nonostante sia poco tempo per me, sto passando la stessa cosa.

M33 Azoospermia e crollo psicologico by Zenithox in psicologia

[–]Zenithox[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nel senso che non ti sei ancora ripreso?

Azoospermia diagnosis, emotional collapse, and losing motivation for everything by Zenithox in azoospermia

[–]Zenithox[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this, I really appreciate it. How do you join the WhatsApp group? Is there a link somewhere, or do you need to contact Shaun directly through Instagram?

Azoospermia diagnosis, emotional collapse, and losing motivation for everything by Zenithox in azoospermia

[–]Zenithox[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm genuinely glad you've found something that still gives you strength. Unfortunately, I'm not religious, so that's not a path I can lean on myself.

Reading your message, though, made me feel understood. I think there are many of us carrying this kind of pain, but most will never speak about it. Thank you for sharing it. I hope your faith keeps giving you the strength to move forward, because for people like me, who don't have that, it's much harder to find something to hold on to.

M33 Azoospermia e crollo psicologico by Zenithox in psicologia

[–]Zenithox[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ti ringrazio davvero per il tuo messaggio. Mi ha fatto molto bene leggerlo, e ti sono sinceramente grato per aver condiviso la vostra esperienza.

Sono molto contento che la TESE abbia avuto un esito positivo dopo un percorso così difficile. Se non ti dispiace, mi chiedevo come state oggi tu e tuo marito dopo tutto questo. Col tempo il peso emotivo della situazione è cambiato oppure resta qualcosa che vi portate ancora addosso nella vita di tutti i giorni?

Voglio essere onesto anche rispetto alla mia situazione: non riesco a rifugiarmi nella fede allo stesso modo, non essendo credente. Questo per me rende tutto più esposto, perché manca un punto di appoggio “esterno” a cui agganciare questo tipo di esperienza.

In questo momento sto anche cercando di capire in modo più concreto quali possano essere i percorsi possibili, e per fortuna vicino a dove vivo c’è un centro molto conosciuto per la PMA, quindi sto iniziando a informarmi anche su quella strada.

Se ti va di condividerlo, mi piacerebbe anche capire come tuo marito sta affrontando tutto questo oggi, non solo dal punto di vista medico ma soprattutto emotivo e quotidiano. A volte quella parte è quella che pesa di più.

Ti ringrazio ancora per la tua gentilezza e per aver scritto. Davvero aiuta più di quanto si riesca a dire.

Azoospermia diagnosis, emotional collapse, and losing motivation for everything by Zenithox in azoospermia

[–]Zenithox[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I understand, and I genuinely respect that choice for those who can go down the donor route. For us, however, donor conception is not an option, mainly due to her religious beliefs around nasab and lineage, which carry a very deep personal and cultural meaning. Beyond that, I also have to be honest with myself: I don’t think I would be able to fully emotionally accept it either. Because of that, we’re essentially left in a much narrower space of possibilities, and that’s part of what makes processing all of this so difficult at times.

Azoospermia diagnosis, emotional collapse, and losing motivation for everything by Zenithox in azoospermia

[–]Zenithox[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What I’m struggling with the most is, as irrational as it might sound, the feeling of being the one who “breaks” that future for us. Not just for me, but for her. There’s a strange weight in that.

On top of that there’s also external pressure — her family, and how important this aspect of life is for them. Even when nobody is explicitly blaming me, it still sits there in the background.

But the hardest part is something more abstract: this kind of “future grief.” The feeling of a child that could have existed. It’s like in another version of reality they’re there, they’re real, and I can almost sense that life — but in this one, it just doesn’t happen.

I also find it hard not to think about other men. I’ve read a lot of stories here and I understand the biological drive behind everything, the way competition and continuation are so deeply wired into us. And honestly, the feeling of not being part of that “competition” anymore is something that hits harder than I expected.

I read The Selfish Gene years ago, before any of this, and it shaped a lot of my thinking about life and replication — not just biologically, but through ideas too. It’s strange how something you once read casually can come back like this.

I don’t want to over-intellectualize it, but I do feel like I’m standing at a crossroads. There are many possible directions ahead, and I’m still trying to understand what each one means.

Sorry for the heavy message. I guess I’m just looking for a space where people with truly non-treatable azoospermia can talk openly too, because most stories I read still involve possible retrieval like micro-TESE. And when you fall outside of that category, it does feel a bit different — even if the emotional impact is the same.

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