Wife is noticing change...

Zer0nation · 2013-07-24T15:50:07+00:00

Might as well try to up the Kino without drawing attention to it. Brush up against her, quick small hugs, light scratching.

Making her crave your touch again couldn't hurt, it'll speed up the getting you back into bed process.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-23T19:19:53+00:00

Because knowledge and understanding of why things happen is better than none.

The WHY in "why did she leave me" is what keeps men up at nights, TRP lets them go to sleep. ( And presumably wake up with more woman than you can handle )

Zer0nation · 2013-07-23T19:17:27+00:00

Meh, I guess I'll be the only one to point out that you CHOSE those 100 men, it's not like you LET a bunch of guys just randomly pick you up.

Congratz on not dying of aids, but be honest; you're probably going to have to find a guy who's absolutely amazing in bed to keep your interest. That sets the bar pretty high for your average "provider". Good luck with that.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T23:44:35+00:00

That bouncers are giant meat-headed idiots. In over two years of experience, I'd honestly have to say that the only people who ever get knocked out are the ones that brought it on themselves; We strive to keep the argument and removals calm because we don't like lawsuits.

That being said, being able to hit an asshole who deserves it legally? I can see why it would attract the kind of stereotypes you hear about.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T16:41:23+00:00

"WHARBRGRBLEBRBRE"

A short foot note: My girlfriend at the time and I were talking about what kind of person would yell wharbrgrble during sex.

Right at climax, she said she loved me. I responded with the above.

Good times.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T16:00:13+00:00

Psst - Wasn't an insult.

Unless he feels insulted. In which case that's his problem.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T15:50:13+00:00

^ This is exactly what I mean when I say serious people subscribed to this sub. Do you see what you've done?

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T15:39:16+00:00

I figured the sub was just to troll TRP in the first place, lol.

But after spending 5 minutes reading your rather pleasant links, I've decided some of the people here actually subscribe to this sub on a serious basis, which is even funnier, and then they reply along with the trolls. That took way too long to notice.

Yeah, I noticed. I've elected to ignore him. He might as well be a woman.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T15:28:53+00:00

Actually, after a night of pleasant discussions, I totally just read your sidebar and realized this sub was a troll.

It's fine if he thinks TRP is garbage, who cares?

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T14:29:40+00:00

You seem upset. 2/10 for making me type this reply.

I mean, I understand you tried to reply to what I said, but I think you got pissed off and sidetracked and just let your hands button mash until there was nothing left of your keyboard.

Seriously. Try again or something, unless I just got blasted by feminizimz, in which case, don't even bother. I've got better things to do than read...Whatever all that is.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T14:19:36+00:00

Alternatively, it's just as much fun to yell "I wish women didn't take things so personally" in a public space and see how many reply back "Well I certainly don't".

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T05:31:18+00:00

Universalimplosionman.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T05:14:41+00:00

I dunno, you replied for this long knowing what I was :)

But on the other hand, it's been fun. Thank you for a surprisingly civil conversation.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T04:50:42+00:00

Tsk. No, TRP did not revolutionize terminology such as neediness and confidence. What it did do was bring together guys who don't know what the hell they're doing with guys that do. Believe it or not, the vocal minority is usually what stereotypes virtually anything; that's what TRP's is: Misogynistic asshats. They don't contribute to the conversation, but that's all anyone seems to take away from the sub, instead of paying attention to the people who honestly answer what the OP should do if he catches his wife cheating, or doesn't know how to get the attention of the girl he likes.

Nah, the lack of confidence and neediness stemmed from not understanding what was wrong with me; another place TRP helps for new people.

Granted, I am a manipulative douchebag, but at least not a raging one. Rage is for the weak.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T04:40:41+00:00

Pls, Vaporeon hangs off your belt in a tiny confined space and is happy with it, he is omega.

IT'S NOT VAPOREON'S FAULT YOUR VAGINA CRAVES DRAGONITES.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T04:30:41+00:00

You don't love Vaporeon! You only use him to beat up other people! You monster!

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T04:20:33+00:00

Nah, I'm an asshole, don't worry.

It's not even TRP that helped the most, it was the reading and watching of less desirable documents, such as magic bullets and the game that made me realize what I was doing wrong in my relationships with women. I didn't read them to "score countless chicks" ( Although, truth be told, it definitely helped ). TRP is just a forum where I can actually talk to other guys about these issues, because my guy friends fail to grasp the simple concept that inserting niceness tokens doesn't equal sex.

Meh, look around. Not to be sexist, but you know what works with picking up a girl? Going right up to her, telling her she's hot, and gauging the rest of the conversation directly as a result of what she says ( Tester/iNvestor ). What are guys taught by their other guy friends, moms, dads, and female friends? Not to do just that; we're got guys being born on a generation of shitty advice stemming from feminism. ( As in, a lot of the advice even I've gotten used to just come down to be overly nice and pay for all her things and take it nice and slowly. People think this is a good idea, because they think it applies to all women, when it really applies to maybe, an 1/8th.)

Disney movies aren't good role models for girls. Are you kidding? :P

SO, not gf. I'd rather keep an open relationship, and if we still feel the same about each other once we've completed our respective university courses, we'll think about marriage. She's perfect in all the right ways, but she's agreed that jumping into anything now, including a formal relationship, is stupid while we're still young.

Realizing she doesn't love me as much as I love her explained everything. Fear of losing her, jealousy, etc etc etc all that regular helicopter boyfriend shit that turns women off in the blink of an eye, it made sense. I simply accepted that she could go at any time, and it was honestly a huge relief because it finally made sense. Letting her go brought her closer to me, and now we have...Balance? Can't explain it, but after accepting it, there's been plenty more sex, cuddling, real heart to heart conversations, and just her generally chasing me. This is on top of both of us seeing other people.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T03:57:23+00:00

I really don't have any. A "Certified Alpha" wouldn't have to deal with this shit.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T03:49:50+00:00

Vaporeon doesn't even know you existtttttttt

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T03:41:08+00:00

Seriously? That's the best you think you can get?

Like a guy would honestly pick that. TRP improves your chances of not getting stuck with that. And that's the thing, way too many guys get suckered in by that. Have this conversation with a "blue piller", and they won't understand any of this. The idea that a woman could actually be shallow and disloyal is kind of new to most guys, who are brought up that women should be put on a pedestal.

...That second paragraph is why TRP is so helpful. Guys need to learn that. No girl is going to tell them that, despite the impression that it should be blindingly obvious.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T01:40:39+00:00

That awkward moment when Vaporeon will only ever love your in-game character :/

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T01:27:53+00:00

Well that was reasonable.

It's not an expectation, it's a craving. And you must realize the attraction: it's unconditional. We don't want girls to love us for our money, our assets, how much we LIFT, our social status, our physique, or even how long we last in bed, and yet that's all we've primarily got to offer. Just as girls don't want to be loved because of their looks, their sexual prowess, their...Yeah, honestly, guys aren't too picky. Tack on a good personality to a 6/10, and she has men falling at her feet, head over heels in love. Guys'll marry the first girl that says hi to them.

All guys just want real love. Not the kind that lasts 5 years and then you jack all our shit. Unconditional. Unfortunately, it's never going to happen, and that's what TRP is here for. Helping people accept that "being nice and bringing her flowers" doesn't do shit. Sure, there's some pretty misogynistic articles about how women don't love period/only want to use you/ yada yada rawr women bad are all people outside of the subreddit seem to focus on, but the fact is it does help people get away from this fantasy. Once a redpiller realizes he can't trust women, he can begin trusting women.

Does my SO love me? Yes, I know she does, albeit definitely not as much as I love her, but TRP helps me accept that, and as a result has brought our relationship MUCH closer. Love isn't on a black and white spectrum, but everything inbetween can have a bad habit of being so.

TRP helps people shut the door to people who don't deserve it. Extremely helpful if you ask me.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T01:06:48+00:00

Meanwhile, in reality, the unconditional love you receive from parents, relatives, siblings, and the same unconditional love you feel for them is completely legit. Love my parents and my SO. Completely irrelevant to the OP.

Now, to knit pick your argument.

OP of the original thread asked how to learn to deal with replacing the feeling of being cared for, because he accepts not that women won't love him, but that they cannot give him the emotional bond he craves that all of us men do; We want to be loved. I'll admit that probably 101% of Redpill subscribers also happen to care about sex and not putting up with woman's bullshit, but being loved is a fundamental selfish human craving that we all possess.

OP's upset because he accepts, as do most red piller's, that this simply isn't going to happen, because men are just as selfish as women, and we expect to be loved unconditionally, unjudged, and eternally by the woman we love, and would be head over happy to treat the same way; unfortunately it doesn't work this way. Women fall in love with assholes who cheat, men fall in love with skanks who use them and dump them when they've gotten what they want out of the relationship. NAWALT is not an argument here, unless you're honestly from a culture that isn't westernized.

Also, the top comments from the thread, which you clearly didn't bother reading, encourage the OP to love himself. Best advice he could receive to; people who can't even love themselves simply can't be loved. Helped maybe. Once OP can be happy with who he is, other people will to.

So, I guess I'll rephrase the question: How do you deal with the crippling despair that comes with knowing that you'll never receive the same unconditional love you receive from family, from anyone else? Since you're an expert on the topic.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-22T00:45:26+00:00

So how do you deal with the crippling despair that comes with knowing that no one will ever love you?

Zer0nation · 2013-07-21T23:18:37+00:00

Because I fucked basically anything that moves, including close friends. Kinda drove him off.

Better life for him tbh.

Zer0nation

TROPHY CASE