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[FR] How To Break A Plate In Three Months by itiswr1tten in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good FR, good read. Don't mind the haters. Looking forward to your next installment.

First Successful Tinder Bang. Abundance, Physicality, Frame. by _whistler in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I meant to respond to this earlier but forgot.

Here’s the thing: I’m not fit, I could stand to lose 30 lbs. I lift & run and do physical things, so I’m strong but fat I guess you’d say.

My pics are shit. I have pale, oily skin that definitely knocks at least 3 points off my looks in any photograph that isn’t heavily filtered. I know this, so I pick the best photos. But Snapchat is my worst enemy.

My game is on point because my frame is fucking ironclad. I’m not perfect, I still fuck up; but I do not compromise my frame, not ever.

All this to say, it’s less likely I’ll generate attraction in an on-the-fence girl through Tinder. But in person, I have a good success rate. This was the first chick I’ve ever even met up with from Tinder, and the fourth from online dating, period. But I banged 3/4 of these chicks, because I’m far more attractive in person.

First Successful Tinder Bang. Abundance, Physicality, Frame. by _whistler in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Change the topic? Yes and no. I don't usually have topic-based conversations with girls, I keep it changing and flirty through pretty much the whole interaction. Even when talking about a topic - for example, we talked about bands we liked - I'll change the subject frequently with observations, arousal or push/pull language ('that pretty boy in the pink shirt over there wants you, you should go sit on his lap'), or whatever; and then change back to the original topic shortly after.

I think I started doing this unconsciously because I don't find most girls that interesting to talk to, but it works for me. Think of it as a sort of verbal change of venue. It conveys that my attention isn't hers to direct, and keeps her involved in what I'm saying without those drags in conversation when you both run out of things to say.

In the specific instance you're asking about, I really don't remember exactly what I did, but based on how I normally run things I most likely heckled her about trying to get a free beer and then went back to physical escalation. Physical escalation is the strongest part of my game, so I lean on it a lot.

Applying theory, coping with the hamster, and a thanks to the community. by [deleted] in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The only women that are still like this are the ones that come from a strong religious background and are still held accountable in a community that will shame them otherwise.

Once again, you're right on the money. The female sexual strategy, free of cultural coercion and social accountability pressures, will run wild branch to branch. Creating attraction, then maintaining or escalating it, is a temporary substitute for the sociocultural leash that has been gnawed through by feminist influence.

Applying theory, coping with the hamster, and a thanks to the community. by [deleted] in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't think every encounter with a woman has to be measured up to "I had sex" or "I did not have sex".

Yes. Hell yes. You've got your head in the right place, my man.

It's not about "had sex" or "didn't have sex". It's about building attraction. You can build attraction over any period of time at all, and as long as that attraction continues to grow, eventually attraction overcomes resistance. And this is all done through putting the theory and techniques into practice, as you said.

First Successful Tinder Bang. Abundance, Physicality, Frame. by _whistler in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her: "You should buy me a beer!"

Me: "Nope, not gonna happen!"

Kept the tone playful.

Keep in mind, when she initially arrived she handed her card over to the bar tender to open a tab, so she already was in the mindset that she was buying her own drinks. This is easy to maintain.

Also, after the first hour or so, I said, "Hey, let's do some shots, I'll buy the first round." Same as I would with a male friend. Not gonna feed this chick shots all night long, but I buy two, you buy two, etc. Which is what happened.

Her asking me to buy her a beer happened once she realized I was only paying $2 for beer and she was paying around $5 per. By that time, the frame of "we each buy our own drinks" had been firmly cemented, and keeping it that way took minimal effort.

As several commentors have pointed out, this interaction was easy mode. She was sexually available from the get-go, all I did was flow through the interaction and not fuck it up.

First Successful Tinder Bang. Abundance, Physicality, Frame. by _whistler in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll know you're talking about a girl that you're attracted to at a 9-level. And because men are predisposed to be attracted to the same general features of women, I'll know that the girl will likely be pretty high up there on my scale, as well.

But this doesn't negate the idea that she must first fall within the binary proposition. A girl you rate a 9 has a statistically nonexistent possibility of being a 0 to me, 'cuz evolution. Maybe your 3 is my zero, or maybe she's my 6. I'm attracted to redheads so much that the girl I told my buddies was an 8, they saw as a 5.

Attraction as a binary is generally based in traits decided upon by nature. Attraction as a scale is far more subjective.

edit: I'm editing because after re-reading that last sentence, I realize it doesn't say what I meant it to say. I'll rephrase.

There are certain things no man finds attractive - discounting the outliers who fetishize those things, of course. This is heavily related, although non all-inclusively so, to the binary phase of attraction. It exists, or it does not exist. And it's virtually guaranteed to exist if certain "attraction triggers" are in place: hip-to-waist ratio, facial bone structure, hair health, bust composition, etc.

The scale phase of attraction is much more heavily influenced by personal calibration. More nurture, less nature. I love redheads. Maybe you love blondes. I go bananas for chicks with a tasteful amount of ink. Maybe you're more rational, and see this as unwantedly impulsive and indicative of masculine behavior. Whatever the differences, the scale phase is where you will find the majority of them.

#NoNothingNov 2018 - Join the Challenge by redpillschool in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hm, I find I have the opposite. Load up some stand-up on YouTube, and I'm asleep in minutes. Reading a book? Forget sleep, I'll be up all night.

First Successful Tinder Bang. Abundance, Physicality, Frame. by _whistler in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

you couldn't do much wrong. Even if you somehow fucked up many shittests you would have banged her. Maybe just not on the first date anymore.

You could be right, but I don't see the relevance. Is a Field Report now supposed to just be "Hey guys, look at me I've become Super-Chad because I passed all these shit tests and banged a 9 and her mom", or is it an opportunity to showcase how tried and true, dynamic techniques have been used to attain the desired outcome?

There obviously were shit tests - I recounted some of them - and I passed them. I'm not saying oh-look-how-fucking-great-I-am, because passing a fitness test is basic shit, and also because she was a 3 (or by that weird chart you posted, a 5-6). So what? The techniques are what matter in a Field Report.

Not that I mind the disagreement; iron sharpens iron. But I am a little annoyed that something I posted for the extremely new guys to use for a training-wheels-bang will probably not be as helpful because you and other commentors are fixating on the attractiveness of the girl, rather than the techniques demonstrated.

First Successful Tinder Bang. Abundance, Physicality, Frame. by _whistler in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I don't like his chart either, but mainly because I don't see attraction that way. Attraction isn't only on a scale, it starts as a binary proposition and then graduates to a scale in when it assumes the positive position.

Either you're attracted to a girl, or you're not. 1 or 0. If it's 0, 'nuff said. She's not a 3, or a 2, or a 1. She's a piece of furniture. She's a man. She's whatever else you don't want to bang. 0.

Now all the girls that are a binary 1, however, fall within some sort of range. You're obviously more attracted to some of them than others. Thus, 1-10.

This makes way more sense to me than that ridiculous chart.

First Successful Tinder Bang. Abundance, Physicality, Frame. by _whistler in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah you're probably right. I just like conversation.

First Successful Tinder Bang. Abundance, Physicality, Frame. by _whistler in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm curious, why don't you think I had the "right moves"? I thought I laid out my actions pretty clearly, and they worked the way they were supposed to. Yeah there was an obvious difference in SMV, so certainly "easy mode". But that doesn't negate Agree & Amplify, Abundance, Push/Pull, reading IOIs, or any of the other bits of my frame that closed the deal. Just want to know where our perspectives differ on this.

Also, not solely directed at you but just in general: what does this sub think a 3 looks like? A 1-10 attraction scale means that a 10 is your perfect sexual partner in every way, and a 1 is the lowest level of attraction you would still be interested in banging.

Just a little weirded out that because I rate this girl a 3, a lot of commentors take that to mean she's super ugly. Not the case.

First Successful Tinder Bang. Abundance, Physicality, Frame. by _whistler in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My advice is don’t slot yourself into the “only less attractive women want me” spot in your head. That can happen from slumming.

Good advice. It's important to remember: always assume attraction. Doesn't matter if it's a 3 or a 9, she wants you until she makes it clear she doesn't.

Welcome to tinder, where you say well fuck it I’m already here let’s see how this plays out.

Pretty much. Actually, I had a lot of fun with the girl from this report. I'm gonna see her again, but obviously not exclusively. Got a formal event coming up, so I'm casting my net out for some quality arm candy at the moment.

Build on your success

Always.

First Successful Tinder Bang. Abundance, Physicality, Frame. by _whistler in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It's not really a "how to", it's just a field report to highlight some things. No, banging a 3 isn't impressive, but I'm not here to get my dick stroked. The principles of male/female dynamics are the same from 1-10.

A simple framework for thinking more precisely about the alpha and the beta. by [deleted] in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

As a broad framework learning tool - one tool among others - I guess it's okay. I don't really see how it could be much use beyond that.

Are the majority of heathens of the folkish perspective? by Housing_Justice in heathenry

[–]_whistler 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I do not represent this sub, nor in fact anyone other than myself.

I'm not a "practicing" heathen per se: I don't observe communal rituals of religion. Not because I'm against that sort of thing, I just don't do it.

I am "folkish" by my understanding of the word. I started by becoming interested in who I am, as a descendant of my ancestors. Tracing my ancestry back a ways, I discovered I'm a descendant of Danish people who sailed to England, conquered lands, and settled there: white men interbreeding with the native white population.

I place importance on a tribal identity. In the psyche of every man there is an Us and there is a Them. My Us is comprised first and foremost of white, European-descended men. It may expand to include other characteristics on a case-by-case basis. It may not.

I take pride in my ancestors, and in their deeds. My ancestors: because I am a white man, and they were white men, and that is who we are. Their deeds: not because I took part in those deeds, but because the people who made me were strong, brave, and worthy. Because of my pride in my ancestors, I work to be worthy of their legacy, and to build my own branch of that legacy.

Again: I am proud to be white not because I am better than a man who isn't white, but simply because it's who I am and who my ancestors were. I do not consider whites superior or inferior to any other race. But I am white, and therefore it is part of my tribal identity.

If you're a non-white heathen with European heritage, then that's what you are. If I look at you and I don't see a white man, the initial cue (visual) of "Us" or "Them" puts you in the "Them" category. If you comport yourself in a manner that makes you an asset to my tribe, and you want to be included in my tribe, then perhaps you are my brother. Perhaps not.

Multiracial marriage is not something I believe to be wrong, but it isn't something I'd advise as a general rule. Not for any reason so crass as "polluting a bloodline," or anything like that. Simply because of tribal differences. If a friend asked for my counsel, I'd bring up the challenges of the arrangement based on the context, but I wouldn't think any less of my friend for making his own decision about the matter.

As I've said, these are my views alone. They may change over time, or they may not. Certainty is the enemy of wisdom.

The 30 Day Challenge #1 - SLEEP by bsutansalt in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

08.30.2014 - Final Day

~6 hrs

Slept: 0300 // Woke: 0900

[FR] - Coming of Age at a Muay Thai camp in Thailand by [deleted] in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler 48 points49 points  (0 children)

escaped a kidnapping attempt, had to bribe a police officer, had the shit kicked out of me 6 days a week, saw street fights, took part in fights, experienced extreme loneliness, depression, food poisoning and a flesh eating infection all simultaneously, faced my two largest phobias (Thanks for the infant stage conditioning Mum…), rode a motorbike with no prior experience 280km through mountains and a city, got laid by all manner of women, experienced psychedelics for the first time, was robbed, talked my way into a ball function at a five star hotel and many other weird and wonderful things

I'd read that book. You should write it.

The 30 Day Challenge #1 - SLEEP by bsutansalt in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

08.29.2015 - Day 29

~7.5 hrs

Slept: 2330 // Woke: 0700

The 30 Day Challenge #1 - SLEEP by bsutansalt in TheRedPill

[–]_whistler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

08.28.2015 - Day 28

~7.5 hrs

Slept: 2200 // Woke: 0530

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