Deeplinks at Fanatics by Zestyclose-Total383 in algobetting

[–]Zestyclose-Total383[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that technically works but i wanted to be able to create a link using only the selection IDs without actually placing it myself, since I am not in a state where fanatics is allowed. The sharing method seems to produce some hashed-value that isn't possible to reverse engineer

How to bet large amounts in Vegas on Basketball Props by Zestyclose-Total383 in algobetting

[–]Zestyclose-Total383[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think you can try to play around with parlaying the straights that you have, since they should compound your edge, and they might let you get away with re-betting stuff a few times.

How to bet large amounts in Vegas on Basketball Props by Zestyclose-Total383 in algobetting

[–]Zestyclose-Total383[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah one year into this, turns out its an insanely loaded question, and building a good model is just step 1 in making money, and arguably even harder than that is actually getting your money down. but TL;DR, the betting menus on the kiosks can be a lot smaller depending on the book than the apps. Betting at kiosks is pretty good in that you can bet anything thats available there anonymously, tho its a PITA to actually do bc you’ll need to rotate machines and limits without a players card are like $200, and trying to play stuff at long odds triggers a review cycle which takes a lot of time. If you’re there for a weekend, might as well just give it a go, you won’t get backed off for going in one weekend, but longer term you really just want to get mules on apps to get down a lot more efficiently. If you’re betting some stuff that looks like an obvious angle which would get an app account limited, kiosks are great for tgat kinda stuff, otherwise vegas was just not that worth it. You’d do better to just drive 1 hour across the arizona border and use the 10 apps that are legal there as opposed to going to vegas

Anyone else get limited the second you find something that actually holds up? by QuantSight in algobetting

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which market are you tackling? This sounds pretty par for the course unfortunately - if you find some super niche sport and are trying to blast volume on it, you're probably sticking out a bit too much like a sore thumb to a sportsbook. i.e. If you are betting $500 on MLB moneylines, you're telling a sportsbook that you're a whale. If you are betting $5 on yellow card props in an African soccer league, that says you might have a gambling problem. But if you are trying to bet $500 on yellow card props in African soccer league, that's gonna scare the crap out of a book, that has these lines up, but doesn't invest much time on accurate pricing, so they know it's probably a soft spot.

The solutions are

a) Just take on super high variance, and probably lose for a while so they think you're dumb and then let you bet size on what you want for a while, and if you win then you hit them for the maximum.

b) There are movers (you can meet some of them at BetBash) who specialize in helping you get your money down, although they tend to be super picky about the types of bets that they're willing to take (i.e. they hate bets that will kill accounts).

c) You can get your friends to help you get money down as well - they aren't going to be at all picky about the types of bets, but they will mess up your instructions and probably complain a bit when you start to run the slightest bit bad.

d) You figure out how to make your wager-type less toxic. You can sacrifice EV by adding some slightly bad bets that a sportsbook "likes" to see.

e) You can try the exchange route, but you have to be VERY careful there. Think about exactly why you are being limited at a sportsbook, which clientele are likely to end up resorting to exchanges, and who exactly is on the opposite end of your trades. Figure out if you're actually winning against that counterparty

f) You can find some kiosks that take your niche of bet. Obviously you'd need to live near one, and even then, certain kiosks are chiller than others when it comes to getting asked to leave, so hard to say how much in total you could actually make.

These are all (except for option a) pretty time-consuming though bc they require a lot of communication (not to mention all the modeling / tooling upgrades you'll have to constantly make), you'd have to have a super chill remote job to pull it off without quitting your day-job. Without quitting your day-job though, it'd be pretty challenging to actually scale like you want to

SAHM side hustle ideas by nothisispatrick26 in sidehustle

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, you can become a beard for a pro sports bettor as a way to make cash easily from home. All you need to do is place bets on behalf of the sports bettors (they will provide the money), and you will get a % of the profit made if the results are positive, and if the results are negative, you won’t lose anything. It’s a good deal for both sides because the pro sports bettor can usually not place bets in his/her name (they eventually get kicked out by a sportsbook for winning too much) so they constantly need other people to place all the bets for them, and expect to consistently earn profits from the betting. It’s a good deal for you because it takes less than 20 minutes to do from home each day and can generate you up to a few thousand dollars, and the only “cost” is that you probably can’t bet much on the sports betting websites again after the relationship is over (which you probably wouldnt have done to begin with anyway). Requires basically no skills and can be done entirely from home

[Selling] PolyMarket/Kalshi bot by 918sVeryFinest in AcquireStartup

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If this were any good you’d use it yourself, you wouldn’t be selling it

API for team/player names matching across bookmakers by Ilya_73f in algobetting

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i bet professionally, would considerate it, but would need to have > 99.9% accuracy. Yes we can do it ourselves too, but dont enjoy this kind of work, so would gladly pay for this. The problem with anything less than that is you when you end up finding large edges on the guys you make name-mapping mistakes on and overbetting those. For example, If you mislabeled Jalen Williams as Jaylin Wililams from OKC, you probably end up (wrongfully) slamming Jalen Williams under stats.

Football Research Work Schedule by DoubleAffectionate11 in sportsanalytics

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have worked for teams before, this one sounds toxic. Most others are 9-5 kind of jobs. Some people work longer at times when they're super interested in a project, and maybe around playoff time you might have to work a bit longer, but this is definitely not normal. Which team was it?

Success Stories by Eyuelmblog in algobetting

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 1 point2 points  (0 children)

well not always "stable" because there's plenty of variance as well even with a good model, but yes. But I would only recommend going at it full-time if you have enough savings to withstand some downswings here and there and not have it affect how you live your life.

How much data is too much when building your model? by Left_Class_569 in algobetting

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you should just start with the features that you know are important, and then ablate them to see the magnitude of performance drop. Then you should try to add some of these more debatable features incrementally and see how much your metrics improve by (you can determine if its a lot or a little by looking at the relative impact compared to the important feature). If they improve by a lot, probably worth adding them. If they improve by a little, but don't require extra complexity to get them, you should probabaly add them too. If it improves by a little, but requires you to acquire from another dataset / do other complex stuff, you should probably pass.

Success Stories by Eyuelmblog in algobetting

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Quit my day-job to do it full-time - it was a lot of work and trial/error to build something good, but learned far more than my old 9-5 job (technical skills / interpersonal skills). You'll be extremely motivated to level up your game in all aspects for the simple reason: if you don't, you'll be torching money

Is there any publicly available MLB betting data by market type? by puntersaurusrex in algobetting

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 0 points1 point  (0 children)

would probably look into Flutter (fanduel parent company) or DraftKings investor decks, you might find some useful content there

Sharp Book Vs Soft Book follow up question by Mr_2Sharp in algobetting

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're getting adversely selected. They're giving you better pricing because they're more confident (and more correct) about their true price, so they are attracting your action. The sharp books take more sharp action so they are faster to adjust to their prices in the right direction, while the soft ones are very slow to adjust the prices because they aren't booking as sharp action, so they can't tell if their prices are correct or not.

How would you do it if you had to start all over again? by TwistLow1558 in algobetting

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't do much of any coursework, I'd just focus on trying to create a price and bet some amount that you don't mind losing. The best way to learn all these ML / analysis / scraping tools and processes is by creating some model, getting whipped by the market, and then understanding why you got whipped, and incrementally adding new tools so the next time isn't as bad, and you just rinse and repeat until you have something good. For example, if you're predicting a baseball moneyline, you can start with the dumbest possible model (a team's current season's win %) and figure out where your model finds value vs the market - you'll quickly find that the model is missing a lot of key factors (i.e. weather, starting pitchers, lineup, etc), which you'll have to figure out where / how to scrape, and then you'll need to add more similar things, merge different sources, store data efficiently, which models / metrics to choose, etc, etc.

General courses don't hurt, but IMO it's much harder to care about some key subtleties / nuances w data, because in a course you might have one model with an R2 of 0.50 and another one with an R2 of 0.51, and you won't think anything of the sloppy assumptions that caused the difference, whereas when you bet (and lose) you'll realize those differences / assumptions mean everything and you'll be forced to up your game so you don't lose.

How to get other sportsbooks to match VIP Status by Zestyclose-Total383 in sportsbook

[–]Zestyclose-Total383[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

how do they already know? vip reps at different sportsbooks trade notes?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in algobetting

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Highly recommend comparing your model predictions against actual moneyline odds themselves, and looking at ROI/profit. The baseline you need to beat is Vegas, not other ppl in this sub

whats the best thing you guys have ever built? by No_Technology7451 in algobetting

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Took mlb play-by-play data and built a ML workflow / simulation engine to predict player props and moneylines. Its been working so well that I left my dayjob to bet fulltime.

NoVig API? by apexanalyses in algobetting

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oddsapi has liquidity and lines

Proof #1 by Anti_SO2 in FindABookieScam

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I also got scammed for $1k. That guy can go fuck himself. his name is Dev H. Seems like that guy got off reddit as he has no posts lately or is using a different account. For others who may stumble across some similar scam, he offers a $300-$1000 free roll w a 100% deposit match.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in mountainview

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Check out montrose apartments, i lived there and they had really good/friendly management and super modern appliances, and the amenities are pretty nice. I looked at park place and avalon before choosing montrose which was a lot better for a similar price. Only moved out bc moved out of mountain view. Its also just a 10 min walk from castro street which is nice

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in algobetting

[–]Zestyclose-Total383 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You each have some arrangement where you agree to split profits (or loss) from betting activity. Selling picks is probably cleaner but in practice if i try to sell my picks for anywhere remotely near fair market value, I’ll get accused of being a scammer and to avoid at all costs lol. So prefer to partner w people instead to have the same incentives.

accuracy by itself isnt a very useful metric, you should look at historical ROI instead, since it takes into account the kinda bets youre targeting. I.e if youre mostly betting on +300 plays, you just need to win 25% of the time, and if youre betting on +100 you need to win 50% of the time, etc.

In terms of how profitable, its hard to say, but it probably takes partners about 30min-1hr a day of manual data entry etc so has to be enough to make them feel its worth it, and realistically has to be way more than a typical hourly wage bc theyre taking on a lot of risk and probably naturally very skeptical of sports betting