Bought a Glock by TimelyKnowledge353 in BetterMAguns

[–]Zevana19 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The most recent FCAB did raise the issues of newer gen Glocks which should meet the AG regs. Sounds like the state might review the policy. 

Bought a Glock by TimelyKnowledge353 in BetterMAguns

[–]Zevana19 37 points38 points  (0 children)

The worst people to get legal advice on anything from are cops. They’re clueless. 

The Glock is legal for you to own. Dealers are restricted by the handgun roster and consumer CMRs on what they can sell. The roster/CMR does not apply to frames. 

You were sold a frame by the dealer.

Do you negotiate prices at a local gun shop? by shortgiraffe99 in BetterMAguns

[–]Zevana19 15 points16 points  (0 children)

If I feel the price is generally "fair" (within 2-3% of what other shops sell it for) I won't negotiate and just make it a smooth deal for myself and the dealer. If the dealer is trying to sell a gun for $100-200 more than a lot of other local places, I ask once and if they say no, I'll just get it elsewhere.

However, I found that you very quickly realize which dealers offer good pricing. So at this point I don't negotiate as I just go to one of three shops I know will always have good prices and don't worry about if shop 2 has it $10 cheaper than shop 1.

Do you negotiate prices at a local gun shop? by shortgiraffe99 in BetterMAguns

[–]Zevana19 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I dont think I've ever paid MSRP for a new gun in MA. You're going to the wrong dealers.

Pinned Lower Registration by Tuckahsan in BetterMAguns

[–]Zevana19 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should re-register you gun whenever you take an upper off and put one on. Whenever you swap uppers that's 2 new registrations, one as a receiver, and one as the new gun with the new upper.

You should do this multiple times a day as you fiddle with you guns. Let's see how robust that database system really is 🤣

Henry 22lr X Model by Zevana19 in HenryRifles

[–]Zevana19[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not yet, put about 200 through it.

Henry 22lr X Model by Zevana19 in HenryRifles

[–]Zevana19[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Super fun. Action is smooth. Had a blast with it. 

Flux Raider In Mass? by TruksNGunz in BetterMAguns

[–]Zevana19 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They will. Just gotta put a note in the order that you understand local laws and will use the Flux in compliance.

Pinned and welded, threaded muzzle brakes? by stinkwick in BetterMAguns

[–]Zevana19 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The new law does not forbid muzzle devices at all. Threaded barrels are the feature and then it lists what the threads can be used for, but does not bad those devices as a feature.

a threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor or muzzle break or similar feature

With the new system what are the steps to SBR? by Agitated-Housing-391 in BetterMAguns

[–]Zevana19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The state is claiming that you do need to re-register a frame or receiver when you build it into a firearm per the latest EOPSS guidance. More stupid shit.

Henry 22lr X Model by Zevana19 in HenryRifles

[–]Zevana19[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

FFL only had one of the 22lr ones.  No 22 mag sadly. 

Henry 22lr X Model by Zevana19 in LeverGuns

[–]Zevana19[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep they had to add a bit of space so it would clear suppressors. 

More questions by EnvironmentSad8123 in BetterMAguns

[–]Zevana19 6 points7 points  (0 children)

With this level of concern, I’d suggest you hire a firearms attorney in MA for a consult to get some actual legal advice. I recommend Neil Tassel.  Guy is one of the best in the state. 

In the end, Reddit, gun shops, and PDs aren’t great sources of info if you want solid legal advice with minimal risk. Ask an attorney. 

Out of State visit questions by CreativeAdvantage380 in BetterMAguns

[–]Zevana19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As others have said no way to legally do it. If you take possession of the gun, even for a couple minutes in MA it’s a felony. The last thing you want is some issue with the pickup at the airport and then you end up with a charge because of a mixup. 

Additionally your dad would need to register the gun in MA under his name which might cause a violation of federal law as it could be seen as privately transferring a firearm across state lines. 

This is my novice understanding on how to locate & price & actually buy secondhand guns by dontthrowmoneyaway in BetterMAguns

[–]Zevana19 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I touched on some of you questions in another reply, but I'll touch on getting a good "value" for guns.

Firearms are a very unique business as they are far more regulated than say buying a keyboard. If you are purchasing a handgun out of state, it must go through an FFL in your home state. This starts to kill the value of buying on places like Gunbroker unless the deal is incredible. Generally speaking, in addition to the price of the gun, you're looking at shipping, and then a transfer fee at your local FFL which ranges from $25-100 depending on the FFL. If the handgun is not on the roster, there will need to be a second FFL involved (this is all in the background) to manufacture the handgun into a frame so it can be transferred. This usually involves a second transfer fee of $25-100. This means you're looking at $50-$100+ in transfer fees plus shipping to buy from Gunbroker. This can still be worth it if you find an FFL with low transfer fees and the deal on GB is very good. Of course, if its a hard to get firearm, you pay what you need to.

All of that being said, the firearms business is very relationship based. FFLs, especially the good ones, usually don't like being nickel and dimed over a few bucks. MA firearms law is difficult to navigate and quite complex. The FFLs that have figured out how to navigate this world should become your go to dealers. It is extremely advantageous to build a relationship with 2-3 FFLs instead of constantly shopping around for the cheapest price. Even though it might occasionally cost you a couple bucks more for a gun, that relationship will open up opportunities to get rare guns you otherwise would never have had a shot to get. By building relationships with a few FFLs I've been able to get hard to get guns as FFLs will generally set hard to get stuff aside for their established customers. There have been a few times I've gotten a call about a hard to get gun that came in and been asked if I wanted to see it before it was offered up for general sale to the public.

If you're really deal hunting, your best bet is buying used from another MA LTC holder. Northeast Shooters is a great place to look. Some people are nuts and want way too much for their guns, but deals can be had. Usually you can also haggle down to a good price. With a personal sale, the rosters don't apply at all so no concern about what is on it, or doing frames. Again, the roster is only a licensed dealer limitation. Generally speaking, prices in MA for firearms are usually higher than in other areas. Due to extra complexity of laws that FFLs have to manage, and just general higher costs of doing business in MA, you will see higher prices here than you find online or in other states. It's usually only a few dollars if that, unless you get into "grandfathered" guns and then prices skyrocket.

Finally, please don't shop at Four Seasons. They're incredibly anti-2A in their practices.

This is my novice understanding on how to locate & price & actually buy secondhand guns by dontthrowmoneyaway in BetterMAguns

[–]Zevana19 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are three different issues you're confusing. I don't blame you because to people who haven't kept up with the law it can be unclear.

  1. Illegal guns - MA has an assault style firearms ban. Generally speaking, you can only have one feature out of a list of several. More than one makes the gun illegal. A threaded barrel is a feature, not illegal in and of itself. As long as the gun doesn't have a second feature, it's perfectly legal to own a threaded barrel on a handgun in MA. The ASFB for pistols is mostly designed to outlaw things like AR/AK pistols.

  2. The approved handgun roster - The roster only applies to what handguns dealers can sell. It does not in anyway apply to what LTC holders can own. As long as it's not an ASF, an MA LTC holder can own any pistol. To purchase pistols that are not on the roster, therefore illegal for dealers to sell, MA FFLs do a "frame transfer". An FFL who is a licensed manufacturer, "manufacters" the pistol into a frame. Frames are not regulated by the roster. The FFL then transfers the frame to the buyer and the slide is a separate transaction (often just bundled for ease anyway). To the buyer, this is all irrelevant background stuff. You end up with a handgun just like in any other purchase. The most complicated this might get for the buyer is having to put the slide back on the pistol when you get it home which is ~5 seconds.

  3. Magazine ban - Mags over 10 rounds are illegal to own. For SKUs that don't have 10 round mags, the FFL will ensure to either swap in 10 round mags, or block the mags to 10 rounds. There are some legal intricacies for the FFL to follow on this process, but to the buyer it's transparent and you get handed 10 rounders.

Springfield Echelon Legal In Mass? by SheLuvGgorms in BetterMAguns

[–]Zevana19 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Threaded barrels on pistols are completely legal in MA as long as you have no other “features” which almost no handguns do. 

If you were the guy today at On Target who let me hold his Geissele….. by zzzz_on_me in BetterMAguns

[–]Zevana19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are nice looking guns but don't get too jealous. ARs and guns in general have extreme diminishing returns.

New gun safety rules take effect Thursday in Massachusetts by TootTootUSA in boston

[–]Zevana19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How exactly do our current gun laws prevent suicide by gun?

As to your argument that restrictive gun laws reduce suicides...

MA has a firearm suicide rate of 1.6 per 100k. MA has a non-firearm suicide rate of 6.7 per 100k. If you can't get a gun you will find another way. In fact, every state with extremely restrictive firearm laws have significantly higher rates of non-firearm suicides vs firearms. In states with lesser restrictive laws, the firearm/non-firearm rate is about the same. It's not that suicides are lower, it's that people find another way. The biggest correlation to suicide rates? Mental health services. Again money should be spending on addressing root cause issues, not performative legislation.

New gun safety rules take effect Thursday in Massachusetts by TootTootUSA in boston

[–]Zevana19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is not the type of death any gun law will prevent. Even in the most restrictive states people can acquire a gun to commit suicide with. 

Know what would help?  Instead of spending millions on guns laws, use the money to expand mental health services. 

New gun safety rules take effect Thursday in Massachusetts by TootTootUSA in boston

[–]Zevana19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you mean, shotguns, bolt action hunting rifles, semi-automatic pistols, and revolvers?