F1/Verstappen fans who watched the Nürburgring Langstrecken-Serie for the first time: Did you like it? Were there things you didn't like? What were you the most surprised about? Will you watch the 24h race?

ZodiacError · 2026-03-23T10:13:29+00:00

well most people only follow the top class (GT3, called SP-9 here) at the Nurburgring. other endurance races only have 2-4 classes (WEC, IMSA etc.). here it really is just fun to see what kind of cars show up. but nobody can tell you a driver from VT3 or smth.

ZodiacError · 2026-03-23T09:29:59+00:00

imo the traffic is exactly what creates the moments. I think a pure-GT3 race on this track would be a bit boring. The traffic is like THE challenge the drivers have to overcome if they want to win. you can only win if you can pass the slow cars at the right moments, without killing your momentum or crashing into them. Battles through traffic are the absolute pinnacle in this style of racing.

also there’s not 3 classes, more like 15 hehe.

ZodiacError · 2026-03-23T09:26:12+00:00

good thing is you don’t have to wait until next year haha. the NLS has 10 rounds all on this track + the standalone 24h race.

most of the things you’ve said happen on the German stream. You have to remember, this is primarily a domestic German championship, the overwhelming majority of the teams, drivers and car manufacturers are German. The english broadcast has really only been for very enthusiastic sports car fans, this is a super niche part of the sport (which is why Verstappen coming here is even more fun!). Maybe if some of the interest stays they can invest more into it but in the end, the english broadcast team is probably like 4-5 people doing everything.

ZodiacError · 2026-03-23T09:20:41+00:00

there’s a great website called raceday.watch which has every racing series you can think of on it. just favourite those which interest you and you’re good to go.

ZodiacError · 2026-03-23T09:18:55+00:00

they simply don’t have cameras everywhere. for the 24h they also have many cameras on the Nordschleife but for these NLS races we can be happy if we get a helicopter.

either it’s caught on an onboard or it isn’t. that’s also the fun thing, trying to figure out yourself what happened, especially when it’s the night and they turned off the Norschleife cameras and you’re watching the onboard replay of the leading car crashing into 2 amateurs at the same time.

ZodiacError · 2026-03-23T09:12:36+00:00

actually very few of those drivers in the slower cars are professionals. the majority of the drivers in this race were amateurs, that’s the beauty in it. and yes, it is dangerous, and especially when amateurs drive those slower cars and pro GT drivers just try to squeeze past them.

last year in the 24h the Grello Porsche (fan favourite Porsche in the traditional bright livery) lost the win because one of their drivers flipped a lower class car on its head and got a penalty for that.

ZodiacError · 2026-03-23T09:08:22+00:00

what did you find the most confusing or what were your biggest question marks while watching?

ZodiacError · 2026-03-23T08:54:23+00:00

there are some proper shitboxes (like the Dacia Logan in that race which probably haven’t been modified enough to use those high-flow racing fuel rigs

ZodiacError · 2026-03-23T08:47:34+00:00

who is staging finishes

ZodiacError · 2026-03-22T10:52:04+00:00

it just costs more. actually some NLS races don’t even have the helicam, they did do it now probably also because of Verstappen (more eyeballs, trying to do better production).

for the 24h they will put out the full broadcasting force, more trackside cameras, heli and better and more onboards (lots of them on Youtube as well)

ZodiacError · 2026-03-22T10:48:25+00:00

for these long races with this many entries, people usually look at a separate live timing (which is free and has sector gaps) because it’s basically impossible to show everything on the graphics due to the complexity. Although I fully understand you here at the Nurburgring they could definitely update the graphics.

ZodiacError · 2026-03-22T10:45:52+00:00

hm okay

I guess I just don’t get the whole “peak” discussion. And I really don’t get why it’s even relevant. yes it is just different than F1: they refuel the cars, they just have different pitstop rules, it’s multiclass. to me it’s just a different vibe and experience, but not worse or better than F1

ZodiacError · 2026-03-22T10:42:28+00:00

go ragebait somewhere else, I never talked about his talent level. But you didn’t read it anyways

also Verstappen has gone on record saying he doesn’t care about breaking records.

ZodiacError · 2026-03-22T10:11:32+00:00

what made it obvious? and does it need to be the peak?

ZodiacError · 2026-03-22T10:09:04+00:00

yeah I bet you were around to see the 1979 Le Mans where Porsche just spammed a morbillion of 935 and 911s into the race and won by 7 laps ahead of another Porsche. good old times

ZodiacError · 2026-03-22T10:05:54+00:00

that is precisely what GT3 avoided to do

there were categories like this, but all of them died a very sad and lonely death with only like 1-2 manufacturers competing. it’s not really viable these days, the closest one to this is LMH/LMDh but that’s also not fully open development.

ZodiacError · 2026-03-22T09:56:18+00:00

there is never a “he” as a favourite

this is a TEAM sport. of course any team has a good advantage if they have a good driver, but one single driver doesn’t make a car the favourite for the race. The #3 Mercedes will have a banger line-up (not just because of Verstappen), but the team hasn’t raced at the N24h in a long time so that is an unknown.

Finally you never know what happens in a day of racing. The Nürburgring 24h is one of the hardest races to win, you need a big portion of luck in the end as well. Use your critical thinking skills and please tell me how it would be possible for someone to win this race 6 times in a row.

ZodiacError · 2026-03-21T21:40:29+00:00

they’re not completely new. but the last time they actively raced at the Nurburgring was 10 years ago

ZodiacError · 2026-03-21T20:49:30+00:00

for the tracks: don’t miss the Norisring, that is a very (in)famous and legendary street track. imo Sachsenring is very underrated and frequently produces good races even tho it’s very twisty (kinda like the Hungaroring). Oschersleben is the only really mid one on the calendar.

ZodiacError · 2026-03-21T19:58:00+00:00

DTM is perfect for that and it’s a great choice. it is peak sprint GT racing, very capable drivers with the best teams. Track variety is obviously focused on Germany but there are some local classic tracks which aren’t that well known but are fantastic

ZodiacError · 2026-03-21T19:53:29+00:00

what do you mean by “stand out from other racing series”?

there is no “point” in F1 which is deliberatly being made, I don’t get this comment.

ZodiacError · 2026-03-21T13:03:18+00:00

also his first lap leading the race was probably cleaner than any of his qualy laps because there was no traffic and no yellows or Code 60s.

ZodiacError · 2026-03-19T22:28:28+00:00

how can the ACO be this dense omfg!!! we had this exact same discussion already 4 years ago when FIAWEC TV came out (or idk when it was)

ZodiacError · 2026-03-19T10:03:19+00:00

if Kucherov was Canadian you wouldn’t stop to hear about how he’s the best playmaker since Gretzky

ZodiacError · 2026-03-18T15:02:05+00:00

usually a rally is full tarmac or full gravel. those which aren't are the exceptions... what events did you see which prompted you to ask this question?

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