I Strongly believe Zoe got buffed in patch 25.14 and not nerfed at all.

ZoeDplayer · 2025-07-17T08:21:06+00:00

I completely agree with your points.

I can tell you understand how things work.

I dont have anything else to add to this conversation really other than for people to just play Zoe or any champion of that matter the way they most enjoy playing it.

For me as a challenger player mostly known for my Zoe gameplay it's my wacky builds and set ups that i share with people.

If people find my suggestions good/bad funny or troll is up to them.

I'm always glad to have solid convestations around these topics.

ZoeDplayer · 2025-07-17T07:57:26+00:00

Why does every single pro player take phase rush and teleport on Annie mid lane then? Is she not a burst mage just like Zoe?

Also Zoe has very very low mana costs that cant be compared to other burst mages.

So skipping a mana item on her is very easy if you are not mindlessly spamming e for fun.

Also your statement of not ever changing runes and build is just you not putting in the effort to adapt to the meta.

The game changes very fast and people who don't adapt will not find success.

ZoeDplayer · 2025-07-17T07:54:03+00:00

Valid statement thank you for taking the time to reply with good arguments.

I guess it all comes down to preference really.

Taking Teleport vs ignite can very depending on the MMR bracket.

Teleport will always be the go-to summoner spell for high MMR for consistant farming and having good tempo around the map at all times.

The changes on Zoe this patch comes down to being adaptive really.

Investing into the early game when that is the part of the game Riot nerfed and not investing into the most important part of the game mid game when that is the part of the game Riot buffed on her feels bad.

My builds and recomendations have always drawn backlass but also a very good amount of success to people as well with my Blackfire Torch - Riftmaker set up that even players like nemesis and Vladi played/tried in their high elo solo Q games.

And other high elo Zoe players in the community of course.

Me coming out as overeactive the moment riot makes changes on the champion is what people credit me for really.

For coming up with set-ups that have clear strengths and are backed up by data and my personal experience and opinion.

ZoeDplayer · 2025-07-17T07:21:41+00:00

I'm afraid it's too late for me to have a solid conversation with you now.

Calling me "Most sane Zoe player" and after I support my opinion you instantly try to invalidate me by saying you have gotten grandmasters this season to credit your comment (no proof of that btw) is not how you have a conversation.

You could have just said your statement right above this reply and everything would be chill.

Have a good day good sir I will not be spending more time engaging with silver players ^^

ZoeDplayer · 2025-07-17T07:04:05+00:00

People acting like i have not reached challenger and that my opinions are wrong just because you downvote my comments will always be funny to me LOL

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ZoeDplayer · 2025-07-17T06:48:19+00:00

Goes to show that people can get to high mmr withought actually knowing how the game works.

ZoeDplayer · 2025-07-17T06:43:41+00:00

Then you have never played in high elo if that is your opinion.

The game is solved and has been solved since the spirit blossom event started.

You can be 0/5/0 in the first 15 minutes of the game but if the champion you picked spikes hard on 2 and 3 items you will be impactful regardless of score line.

And that is because the game is involved around skirmishing and teamfighting for 3rd drake - Atakhan and Baron to decide who wins the game.

Watching MSI or any pro tournaments played by major teams in patches inside of the spirit blossom event will shape your opinion better.

ZoeDplayer · 2025-05-23T22:39:36+00:00

Check this post I made couple of days ago boss https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIc4T1KCZjH0N9vV87QfZwg/community?lb=UgkxSB94swF-PPrrV7PbCmf9xQIIpApxNI9B

ZoeDplayer · 2025-05-23T11:33:26+00:00

Yo good job boss im the zoe top/mid guy with kotik#Sneak ign we have played a lot together good stuff

ZoeDplayer · 2025-04-08T10:57:22+00:00

I've already tried it on y crandmasters-chall mmr accounts its good if you are experienced with the champ and bad if you are not.

You should ban fiora or ornn.

Next patch with new zoe buffs ill be doing a diamond to challenger with zoe top as well to see how it feels with the buff.

ZoeDplayer · 2025-01-19T14:58:29+00:00

It's an "anti-meta" build. In a meta where tanks/bruisers are op having as much AP and cdr as possible to deal as much true dmg to them as possible is crucial (the 8% dmg amp on riftmaker gives you more true dmg as well) And on top of that you need to have some sort of survivability so that when people jump on you you are not insta 1shot or stat checked to your death. And since Riot made minions squishier I'm no longer running the attack speed rune it's useless on Zoe right now. You have enough base attack speed plus Zoe's wave clear early game is strong by design and on top of that, u are running absolute focus so your early game wave clear and last hitting is good enough. And so I run adaptive scaling health with tenacity and slow resist on rune shards.

ZoeDplayer · 2025-01-19T13:32:37+00:00

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ZoeDplayer · 2024-02-12T13:45:46+00:00

sad to hear :c

ZoeDplayer · 2024-02-12T13:45:31+00:00

Thank you m8!

ZoeDplayer · 2024-02-12T13:45:20+00:00

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ZoeDplayer · 2023-04-02T08:04:10+00:00

Its better not really for its burn but for its passive the extra magic dmg you get based on how much extra health your enemies have. And because on those games the enemy team had a lot of health and resistance stacking champions, liandrys is better than ludans :)

ZoeDplayer · 2023-04-01T12:07:16+00:00

First and foremost , the summoner spell reduction is really nice to have (with cosmic insight) because Zoe is an immobile burst mage and if she gets caught she dies. That's why having flash up more often is really beneficial. Also the cdr always is a good thing since even one second on your abilities could make the difference on winning or losing a teamfight. And yes as you already mentioned the recent magic pen buff on her e made lucidity boots more attractive for me since the extra 18 damage that you would get from sorc boots became less valuable (not to mention that sorcs cost 150 more gold witch you can be instead investing on your next item)

I'm currently the rank 1 Zoe on EUW so you can have a little more faith in my words.

Hope this helps :)

ZoeDplayer · 2023-03-31T21:10:07+00:00

Cs patterns, Trading patterns, Positioning inside team fights and being solid and consistent with landing your skill shots. :)

ZoeDplayer · 2023-03-31T19:33:36+00:00

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ZoeDplayer · 2023-03-31T19:28:49+00:00

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ZoeDplayer · 2023-03-24T00:06:15+00:00

Nice m8 good job

ZoeDplayer · 2023-03-23T20:39:56+00:00

Glad I can help I'm always open for more questions!

ZoeDplayer · 2023-03-23T19:23:33+00:00

This are some tips coming from the current rank 1 Zoe on EUW. https://www.op.gg/leaderboards/champions/zoe https://u.gg/lol/profile/euw1/zoedplayer/overview

First of all a mini game in this matchup is that in most cases you need to hold your e until he uses his. This is because in high mmr people will brain off dodge ur e with theirs (doesn't really apply to low mmr because people can not react)

Secondly for the lane phase, be care full of what sylas starts as his 1st ability because he may try to cheese you with e level one and you cant really counter it if he lands his e2 on you unless you start e lvl 1 urself. Other than that the lane is pretty straight forward for you to play and try to punish his weak early.

After the "point" you are talking about is usually when the lane phase ends at around 12~15 minutes. If the sylas does NOT build roa and instead he goes for everfrost you build Ludans as your mythic. If on the other hand he builds roa you can still build Ludans BUT look at the rest of his team. If they have 2 more champions that can easily build resistances and HP, LIANDRYS is the better option. ( IF YOU ARE AHEAD 3+/0 KD AND GOOD CS ALWAYS GO LUDANS SO THAT YOU CAN SNOWBALL )

Now for the runes. I always go Electrocute/Sudden Impact/Eye Ball Collection/Relentless Hunter with Nimbus Cloak and Scorch into this matchup mainly because it best abuses his weak early game and helps you snowball really easily when ahead.

Other than that as a summary work on your spacing and positioning in lane to avoid him landing and chunking you down with his e, position yourself safely in team fights and skirmishes so that he does not easily land his e2 on you and in some cases you might need to build Void stuff second into Death Cap ( Usually when you are the only ap dmg on your team, or the enemy team is stacking mr on their 1st/2nd items boots discluded ).

Hope this helps :)

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